rPup Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 We’ve got a “London” patient. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/health/aids-cure-london-patient.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekofox Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 https://www.click2houston.com/health/london-patient-might-be-second-to-be-cured-of-hiv As of the time, the article appeared online, there is a strong possibility that HIV may soon be treatable as if any regular type of infection. As far as the treatment itself is concerned, they did say that how it's done won't be for everyone, but at least we're getting closer since we now have 2 that appear to be cured. Keep in mind, this is about those that have regrets or may choose to get it out of their bodies, not those who are active chasers (there's a place of discussion for that), For those that are curious about this, what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veytoss Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 H.I.V. Is Reported Cured in a Second Patient, a Milestone in the Global AIDS Epidemic Scientists have long tried to duplicate the procedure that led to the first long-term remission 12 years ago. With the so-called London patient, they seem to have succeeded. https://goo.gl/qXKFRi Great success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekofox Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Actually shared this news on another thread. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 fake no money in cures and i expect they are pitching this to get funding. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherpunk16 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I wish to do a bit of speculation here. Let's say this works and becomes a viable cure. How many of us BZ guys would queue up for it? Who would go and get the cure, and try to get infected again? I imagine a weird convo to be something like this. Guy 1: I have to go the clinic for the HIV cure again. Guy 2: What is this, the fourth time for you now? Guy 1: Something like that. I'm such a whore, LOL. Guy 2: Make this the last time, okay? See how weird that would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pozlover1 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 All previous reports have been a stock market swindle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityjock Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, leatherpunk16 said: I wish to do a bit of speculation here. Let's say this works and becomes a viable cure. How many of us BZ guys would queue up for it? Who would go and get the cure, and try to get infected again? I imagine a weird convo to be something like this. Guy 1: I have to go the clinic for the HIV cure again. Guy 2: What is this, the fourth time for you now? Guy 1: Something like that. I'm such a whore, LOL. Guy 2: Make this the last time, okay? See how weird that would be? I'm confident that an insurance healthcare provider would not cover habitual treatment if a trend was discovered. I imagine the costs of such a treatment would be too high to be treated as antibiotics or the morning-after pill, paid out-of-pocket or by insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 The other thing is if this was true i expect mutations to take place so it would end up only working on limited strains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Rick Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, cityjock said: I'm confident that an insurance healthcare provider would not cover habitual treatment if a trend was discovered. I imagine the costs of such a treatment would be too high to be treated as antibiotics or the morning-after pill, paid out-of-pocket or by insurance. The politicians would force them to after LGBT activists screamed that not paying for serial multi-million dollar AIDS treatments was "killing LGBT communities." Then the insurance company lobbies would make sure they got taxpayer reimbursement with 390% markups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators drscorpio Posted March 5, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Moderator’s Note: I moved and combined three different threads. Pardon the redundancy in the first few posts. I have also pinned this, so it will be easy to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallslenderguy Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This was apparently reported in the NY Times, i think it's legit. But reading the article, the similarity is that each case resulted after a bone marrow transplant in cancer patients. That's an extreme process that involves "conditioning" where the immune system is virtually neutralized (ironic, eh?) to help prevent rejection of the transplant. Chemo or radiation therapy is used to do this. i'd be interested to read the journal reports on this as i suspect that it's that destructive process that ends up killing off the the virus too. With meds, the virus is suppressed to the point of "undetectable," but manages to hide... apparently the process of getting a bone marrow transplant gets the 'hidden' or "undetectable" virus as well. Not a wonderfully viable option and not likely to replace suppression as an option unless you are crazy rich, want and can afford the procedure. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leather69 Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 This has made the media in Australia too.. @tallslender guy.. the bone marrow was obtained from a guy who was resistant to hiv infection. The "new" patient had the transplant and some two years later they cannot detect any signs of the hiv virus in his blood. This is going to be a massively expensive exercise to eliminate hiv from everyone. - assuming that they can find enough people who are immune and are prepared to go through the pain of donating bone marrow. - mind U money talks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hodannyboi Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 Is this the beginning of a human epidemic for HIV? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veytoss Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Sorry, The London Patient Is In Remission, Not 'Cured' Of HIV Don't let the headlines confuse you or Trump convice you that we can cure HIV. That's not how to erradicate the virus. https://goo.gl/As3xx7 I think most people missed the real point, that is not the cure, rather what we may learn from the fact that after the transplant the virus seems to be gone. Edited March 6, 2019 by Veytoss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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