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On 7/10/2022 at 5:21 PM, fatbottom said:

I tried to get it at Dean St in Soho on Friday and was told no. She didn't even ask about how much sex I'm having. Just said the NHS are releasing almost no vaccines. This means that my trip to Amsterdam next week is going to be a waste of time. I would be tempted to risk it except that i am going on afterwards to visit a Top in Germany for 3 days of 1-2-1 BDSM and he wont be happy if i turn up covered in blisters.

You may be able to get it in Germany: let me know if you need anything translated (this lists how to contact organizations to get the monkeypox vaccine at the end) : [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.aidshilfe.de/affenpocken-impfung

Here is that page in English: [think before following links] https://www.aidshilfe.de/monkeypox-vaccination

There are some difference between the two mostly that the list of organizations for vaccination are not listed and the English page says that the vaccination schedule is still being worked out.  The German page says when several of the German states are rolling out the vaccine (beginning today even though some has been distributed already) and who to contact.

Germany has already distributed some vaccine but the real roll-out begins today.

I was going to suggest that you might also be able to get it in the Netherlands but the English page says "by invitation" so presumably they are primarily vaccinating through contact tracing (if so, that will be dropped).

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.rivm.nl/en/monkeypox

Also, so good news : both the German and Dutch pages specifically say that if you got the smallpox vaccine then a single dose of the monkeypox vaccine is sufficient (at least in most cases). 

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On 7/12/2022 at 9:17 AM, 120DaysofSodom said:

Read that D.C. now makes up 8% of all monkeypox cases in the States.

I am wondering when we can start receiving the smallpox vaccine since we are the highest risk group for catching it.

DC has already begun rolling out the monkeypox vaccine (when they did this in NYC they apparently ran out of vaccine).  

You can apparently register an appointment here: [think before following links] https://dchealth.dc.gov/page/monkeypox

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1 hour ago, fuckholedc said:

Also, so good news : both the German and Dutch pages specifically say that if you got the smallpox vaccine then a single dose of the monkeypox vaccine is sufficient (at least in most cases). 

The RKI (Germany's CDC) recommends for immunocompromised persons who have had the smallpox vaccine before to have two boosters of Imvanex (MVA-BN) with the second one no earlier than 28 days after the first one. [think before following links] https://www.rki.de/SharedDocs/FAQ/Impfen/Affenpocken/FAQ-Liste_Affenpocken_Impfung.html (in German)

 

I'm not quite sure how easy it will be to get the Prep MPX vaccination, every German state seems to have slightly different guidelines. In NRW both university hospitals and HIV specialists ("HIV-Schwerpunktpraxen") are able to vaccinate. However when I got my first shot at the end of June, my specialist had to vaccinate at the university hospital. The next shot will be at my doctor's office.

 

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On 7/9/2022 at 10:06 AM, AirmaxAndy said:

UK Based here... went for a check-up at my local clinic this week (first in three years so should be interesting results) and asked about Smallpox vaccine. Initially they said that they were making a list of guys and putting it in risk/priority order, but as I was about to leave they said that their delivery of vaccine had arrived and they'd be happy to give me a dose, but it was still frozen - so they made an appointment for Friday (yesterday) to give it. 

They key thing was mentioning 'saunas' and 'parties in Berlin, similar to Darklands'. That seemed to get me the #2 slot in their list. I am only wondering who was #1 and what they said!

They explained the vaccine they are giving is a much more modern vaccine than that given in the 60's and 70's and it doesn't leave a scar - the older vaccine left a 5p coin sized scar apparently. They did warn there may be some reaction around the injection site. They were also quite careful to talk through any possible allergies. They said egg is used in the production process. The info also said that 'flu like symptoms' are possible in the days or so afterwards. The shot was given in the flesh and was like the B12 shots I have each quarter, and no weird aches afterwards like you get with the covid shots. They wanted me to hang around for 20 minutes 'just in case there is a reaction' but I needed to get to the gym for a PT session, so I left early.  

They reckon it takes "a week or two" to build immunity after having the shot. So far no, symptoms at all except wanting to get out there again!

A buddy of mine I go out cruising with is older and has had the smallpox vaccine in the 70's. I asked if he would need a booster, and they said that if he fits the risk profile, he'd get a shot whether or not he'd had the smallpox vaccine years ago, so don't discount the idea if you had a shot in the 60s/70s.

This was my experience at a smallish provincial clinic in the UK - your experience may vary depending on your local NHS Trust's policies etc. 

I originally said no symptoms - there's a *small* lump that feels tender like a bruise if I massage it, about where it was injected. I've done a shoulders and arms day on Tuesday with my PT and it didn't ache, hurt or affect performance. Seems to be reducing slowly. No scar or anything where it was injected - can't even tell. 

My older buddy is 'on the list' but hasn't been given an appointment yet. 

 

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Are these monkeypox specific vaccines or are they administering the smallpox vaccine that is also supposed to be effective? I'd get it either way if I was in an area where they are available, but curious about what they are actually giving.

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5 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

Are these monkeypox specific vaccines or are they administering the smallpox vaccine that is also supposed to be effective? I'd get it either way if I was in an area where they are available, but curious about what they are actually giving.

They are giving a monkeypox specific vaccine.  I have read that there is a problem/cause for concern giving the smallpox vaccine to immunocompromised people.

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1 hour ago, hungry_hole said:

How long do you have to wait before you are protected?

Maximum Protection will be achieved 14 days after the second vaccination. Nevertheless that protection won't be 100 percent.

There will be some protection even after the first shot.

For an in-depth analysis and data have a look at European Medicines Agency's "Imvanex: EPAR - Product Information" on [think before following links] https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/imvanex

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15 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

Are these monkeypox specific vaccines or are they administering the smallpox vaccine that is also supposed to be effective? I'd get it either way if I was in an area where they are available, but curious about what they are actually giving.

It's a smallpox vaccine that has been authorised in the EU under ‘exceptional circumstances’ for use against MPX.

Unlike older vaccines that cannot be used in immunocompromised patients, this one uses 'Modified vaccinia Ankara' which has fewer side effects and isn't able to reproduce complete virions in human cells. Therefore it's considered safe for immunocompromised patients. [think before following links] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_vaccinia_Ankara

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Per rational reports, and a most Doctors recently interviewed, it is a relatively minor issue and, as usual, the media and politicians are pressing the panic button, just like they have done with every CoVid variation.

As usual, follow the money......

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10 hours ago, Goldneye007 said:

Per rational reports, and a most Doctors recently interviewed, it is a relatively minor issue and, as usual, the media and politicians are pressing the panic button, just like they have done with every CoVid variation.

As usual, follow the money......

I concur with you on this point.

 

It seems to spread in certain contexts/events however, the media really can't get into those specific details of gay homosexual behavior without being labeled homophobes.

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