MoonDreamer

I always thouht that was one of the hottest thing. A str8 guy seeking another man to relief him. But is this real? There are str8 people that I know that seem almost to be blind to other men. Like they dont exist. Not caring for them at all even in non sexual content (eg giving them a ride for instance just to help them or anything). I tend to believe that these people are sociopaths or something. But could a str8 guy find another man suitable for a sexual encounter in a woman-free environment (army or anything).

PS I've heard that it's quite common guys jerking together as teens even if they are str8. Now that i'm in my 30s do I have a chance of jerking with a str8 guy even with str8 porn? I wanna feel this.

59 minutes ago, ErosWired said:

What do you mean by this? In what way is it ‘too much’?

 I’m not primarily an oral bottom, but when I do, I feel the need to taste the cum before I swallow it (the swallowing is a given). I don’t think I’ve ever taken a load that bypassed my tongue.

 I have a problem, though. There’s something about the first burst of fluid into my mouth that briefly makes me feel the need to throw up, like that first tang of bile you get just before vomiting. It doesn’t last, but it has made me cough before. I don’t know if there’s a chemical reaction with my saliva or what, but it happens every time. Once that moment passes, everything’s fine. I have no trouble licking cum off a body or cleaning up a cock. It’s never stopped me from taking a load by mouth, but I wish it didn’t happen.

I mean people who store it (some porn videos where dozens of cum are stored)..so that's why it's too much and I don't like. I understand that some people are not that much into cum.

I always found cum to be somehow romantic, apart from the sexual part. When I suck someone two of my senses are excited. My hearing when I hear his moaning and my taste when I taste his salty precum. I get that this site is about beeding, but cum in mouth is very arisin for me. One fact I hate though. I've seen videos that they store cum and drink it together. It's disgusting for me because a) it's just too much b) the importance of the cum is its link to a person. That link is broken that way. I like the feeling that someone gives in to me and allows me to give him pleasure.

On 11/7/2022 at 10:16 PM, tallslenderguy said:

i think you are a wonderfully intelligent and insightful person. i am impressed that, despite the awful treatment you have received by those who should love you, you have a level head and a compassionate heart. Still, these people, i believe, are poisonous evil.  Personally, i think most evil is inadvertent and born out of ignorance vs being purposeful, though i think that exists too.  Still, one cannot remain unaffected swimming in a sewer. i am so glad to read that you live in a country that is not unsafe for gay people. Please seriously consider getting away from these people who would harm you. WTF, your life long friend actually hit you in the face. That is horrible, he is without excuse, but a good example of how so called "friends" and acquaintances can do great evil when their fragile ideas are challenged by someone who is different. These people are less mature and more ignorant than unschooled children, they are not a healthy culture to be a part of. They are inbred and sick. i hope you leave them behind. 

Thank you for your kind words. I do think that many people that do harm don't make it on purpose. But ignorance can be deadly at times. To make matters worse, I saw him again on the street and he made an aggressive gesture towards me. He didn't really go for me but I did move fast. That was bad, I felt bullied and embarassed. I decided to message him and told him that I don't deserve all that and I was always there for him and now he's abusive towards me. He called me weak and that he's gonna do whatever he likes. Sad thing, he is a dentist. Shouldn't he be more open minded as an educated person? Do his patients know how he treats gay people I wonder? My bf told me to either call the police if he does that again and if he tries to attack me I should stand on my ground and defend myself. Am I much of a coward for wanting neither of these option? I'm physically strong but is punching the only way? I'm sad and troubled.

As a "friend" of his it's easy to understand what he thinks. He's shocked and confused. These emotions make him violent, I know that. He tends to  be violent when he feels vulnerable or that someone underestimates him (even if it's not like that). In his mind he feels betrayed. Like me a gay guy pretending to be his best friend but in reality I was a gay guy. Gay is something bad, he's not sure why, but it's bad. When my father died, he was crying too, he had hugged me and he hold me tight several times those days. He had asked me if I needed money. He was protective. When he had a medical issue I helped him out go through that. I hope that someday his mind will figure. That he will reconsider about the things that he knew and the things that he learned on his own. He may realise that he's friend is gay, not evil.

3 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Fundamentalist Christianity (or any fundamentalism really, fundamentalist Islam justifies bombing and killing 'sinners' using the same exact attitude toward their bible), is not a faith based belief system, though they think they are. Instead, they treat their ideas about the bible as knowledge.  They call the bible "The inerrant word of God," and "the truth," but what they are actually doing is calling their interpretation of what they read "the word of God."  What they have done is elevated their own perceptions to "God" status.  They do not see that it is they who have decided that the bible is the "word of God" as is their perception of "God."  It's truly bizarre how they leave their self out of the equation when it comes to assigning stuff to "God."  

The hypocrisy of fundamentalist Christianity is endless. So many of the fundamentalist leaders today have used "God" to get rich, for instance, and there is a whole lot more in the bible about money than there is about guys having sex with each other.  Even one of the most popular bible portions used against gays condemns more of the preachers using them than it does the gays they are using them against, these verses rank "greedy" right along with the gays these mega church preachers are condemning. This is from I Corinthians 6:

"...you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

You are right. I remember someone saying "Let God protect you from those who act on His behalf". They want God to bless the weapons that they will kill innocents, to make the win over someone else (let's say in the Olympics) or anything else. God in their minds is something similar to the Elixirs and buffs of Fianl Fantasy games. Gives luck for any purpose. For me if you want to act according to God's will (and although I'm not religious I like to think that God exists and is benevolent), things are very simple. God asks to love and care. Go around and heal people by helping in hospitals or providing volunteer service where needed. Don't go around looking for excuse to spread the seeds of hatred.

3 hours ago, hairyone said:

You don't deserve ANY type of violence.  STAY. THE. FUCK. AWAY. FROM. HIM!

It is a a loss and I'm sorry for your loss.  But, not only did HE grow to not being a good friend, he's not a good person.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I guess you are right too. I didn't expect to be punched it came out of the blue. I didn't fight back.

3 hours ago, NEDenver said:

Moondreamer, you also mention that things are this way in your country.  Some countries are very hostile to LGBT people, mostly because scapegoating is a good way for authoritarians to maintain power.  You are under no obligation to risk your safety.  If the potentially former friend can cause you harm, then please make a plan for your safety.

You know what? I live in Europe, inside the EU not in a forgotten land somewhere lost in the mountains. People can think for themselves. I don't feel threatened by the govrment (for being gay I mean) or at all actually. I'm just hurt, emotionally. Deeply hurt.

18 hours ago, evilqueerpig said:

I feel bad for what you're going through.  People can be cruel and you don't deserve to be punished for your honesty.  Let me tell you about my own experience.  For the most part, people accepted me being gay as just another part of me,   There were 2 who didn't and I said I told them, if you refuse to be a part of my life, get out of my life.  Harsh, yes, but it was best for me.

It was the first time I was sincere about that so it hurts much. I still can't get it. Most people want sex and love, especially guys. I would be really worried if I had a friend that apparently he had no bf/gf or at least some sex dates. I would be sad because he would be lonely. Maybe I'm on the easy side of that, because being straight doesn't need any form of acceptance, but I would be glad to meet my friends boy/girlfriend.

17 hours ago, hairyone said:

Continue to be true to yourself.  You will grow and change constantly through life.  Friends will come and go.  That's neither good nor bad.  It's just part of life.

Oh, BTW, when some straight guy is so naive to think that I would be attracted to him just because I'm gay, I tell them, "You're not my type.  I like my men butch."  Then I smile as their head spins. 

It's just that he was my all time friend. We were playing together before even going to primary school. We were sleeping together, hanging around at parties, studying together, going vacations together. I was always there for him and we were discussing about his love affairs. He would ask me about why I don't have a gf. He had concluded that I was a crazy scientist that had fell in love with his science (which is true I love it). I thought (silly me) that he would have guessed about my bf. But no he hadn't. He punched me in the face and called me fagot.

17 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

The good news is, it is not difficult for many, maybe even the majority? of people to "accept that someone is gay."   

Unfortunately, you happen to be in a culture that suffers from extreme ethnocentricity, and worse, has "God's" seal of approval. 

Some religions are very ethnocentric. Lot's of inbreeding and isolation helps ensure ignorance. i get it, i came out of a similar situation. i now joke: "being gay saved me from "God.""  What really happened is being gay is reality for me and, though i spent a big chunk of my life trying to do what "God" wanted, and trying to be who i 'should be,' trying to be straight was a lie for me, it was dishonest and unreal.  It took awhile for me to realize that it was not being gay that was wrong, but it was the fucked up ideas i'd been conditioned with by people who believe they know "God" and what "God" thinks and feels.  It took me a long, long time to realize that what i thought was "God" was really just other peoples ideas about "God" that i had been conditioned to believe were "God."  

Sadly, these people, your 'friend,' equate their beliefs with "God," so to them, rejecting those ideas feels equal to rejecting "God."   It was hard for me to escape that conditioning, and hell, i was gay and had that strong drive to help me. i figure it must be really hard for someone who does not have a strong reality i their life that goes against their ideas and condiioning, to actually get free of it.

Personally, i see it as a cult, but one that has become sort of mainstream.  When i accepted myself, i literally lost everything. A sizable estate that i had worked my entire life to build, went to my former ("God" believing wife). i lost all my friends because, hey, they were all part of the same belief system and they were not going to associate with a 'rebel'  like me who had turned his back on "God" just so he could get fucked by Men. But the universe, or whatever it is, proved to be on my side. i don't deny the pain of rejection and loss, but i gained freedom, honesty, and peace. Ironic about the "peace," because the religion i was part of claimed that it gave "peace that surpasses understanding."

 i had nothing but pain, shame and guilt when i was a part of that system.  Since leaving that behind, i have rebuilt and i am one happy, peaceful cocksucking faggot.  Something else that can come with digging out of this landfill is understanding. i understand so much more about human nature and people in general as a result. The poison can be turned to medicine. 

best to you babe. 

God is right, so if you say otherwise you are wrong because he is right. You can't speak sense to a rock, can you? Which if you take it from a really religious perspective (I'm talking about Christianity) it is not clear. God said to love other people but in some texts it mentions that gays would go to hell. That's because every narrow minded guy pretended to be divinely inspired so his writings were correct. But if you pretend to be the religious guy you should know that God loves and forgives. That's what God means to me. Everything else including murder and hate speech are stupidities of ignorant people. These people just look for a socially acceptable motivation to spread hatred and even do harm (from my perspective).

16 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

There is a film, based on the play of the same name, called "Torch Song Trilogy". In it, the protagonist has great difficulty with his mother (not a best friend, but still) accepting that he's gay and his life is his own to live. When things reach the boil-over point, he tells her:

“There's one more thing you better understand. I have taught myself to sew, cook, fix plumbing, build furniture - I can even pat myself on the back when necessary - all so I don't have to ask anyone for anything. There's nothing I need from anyone except for love and respect and anyone who can't give me those two things has no place in my life.”

I get how important this guy was in your life prior to this. But if he can't deal with you "as you are" then maybe he just doesn't have a place in your life going forward. Mourn it, if you want, but it's his loss.

That's so sad but true. If you can't evolve you will extinct. I won't stop being gay, but he will stop being my friend. It's sad because it's for no reason.

14 hours ago, hntnhole said:

This is the crux of the issue, as far as I'm concerned.  If there is a deity (and I rather think not), there are weak minded people who have decided there absolutely definitely is, they are "in touch" with the deity, what the deity wants, the deity has blessed them and those like the problem in the OP, that's enough for some misguided folks to decide to tell other's what to do, what not to do, blah blah blah.  Institutions have risen and fallen in service to this notion of an all-powerful "something" off in the clouds, handing down tired, worn out old antiquated strictures, and those folks can just go fuck themselves. They're already living in a hell of their own making, and I refuse to be dragged down into it with them.  

The husband of one of my friends is so Roman Catholic it would make the Pope himself blush.  It didn't stop him from fucking every living, breathing guy he possibly could for all these years, but it does get to be a bit much listening to him go on and on about all the magical confections the RC's have dreamed up through the millennia.  I almost hope there really is a hell with 30 or 40 rings of fire or whatever, so all his energy wasted on this silly business wouldn't be in vain.  He even said to me once, that when he gets to Heaven, he's "going to look up" my life partner, and get acquainted.  Of all the gall ... if that ever comes to pass, my partner will kick his ass and then some.  Lately, he's trying to atone for all his wayward behavior all these years by shoveling dough to the guys in Long Dresses and Ruby Slippers - hoping he can buy an indulgence, I suppose.  Sometimes, I can barely keep from laughing out loud.

You are so right. I think all that resembles to disney's adaption of Hunchback of Notre dame. A lyric said "judge Claude Frollo longed to purge the world of vice and sin. - And he saw corruption everywhere except within". He hated sinners but he wanted to fuck with a gypsy (while he already had committed murder) and when he was rejected he tried to burn her alive. That's hypocricy.

21 hours ago, BlindRawFucker1 said:

I am so sorry to hear that things went badly for you.

 

Unfortunately, some people can’t handle it.  It makes them question their own sexuality.  They can’t think for themselves and follow what society at large says about the LGBT community.

 

You learned, I’m sorry to say, that your friend and yourself weren’t as close as you may have believed.

 

There is a chance, that after he has a chance to really think about it, it might occur to him, that you are the same person as before.  He just knows you better.  He knows the “real” you.

 

He should feel honored that you chose to tell him.

 

Give it some time.  He might have second thoughts and want to talk with you.  If so, take the opportunity and say to him what you said here.

 

I’m sure that others will chime in and give their opinions.

 

Even though it might look like it right now, not all hope is lost for your friendship with him.

 

Hugs

You're right. Some people just can't take it. It shouldn't be that much of a deal though. Every stupid homophobic guy says that he's cool with gay people as long as they don't provoke. Even worse they say that they can do whatever they want in their bedrooms. Thing is, my boyfriend. everyone's boyfriend is not someone that lives under the bed. At social events I want to bring my boyfriend, I don't want to pretend that I'm single. I don't want others to believe that I believe that I'm a [banned word] and I just "hide" my sick side. I love my boyfriend and I'm proud of him

36 minutes ago, hntnhole said:

First, MoonDreamer, I'm so very sorry you went through all of this.  It's truly inhumane.

The fact is, that some folks are too weak in their own self esteem to accept that there are other perfectly normal folks that are innately drawn to want sex with their own gender.  We can debate the root causes, but the effect - regardless of the source - is the same.  It's a terrible event to be rejected by someone we care for because of our inborn nature, but it happens over and over and over again.  The fact that he lashed out at you upon discovering your true, inborn nature would indicate a low level of self confidence or self esteem in your friend, yet that is often the case.  

No matter how difficult it is to accept, there's still a lesson we can learn when this kind of thing happens, that being our own power to forgive the perpetrator of the abuse.  Once that's accomplished, you can gradually allow this poisonous memory to fade, and learn from the experience.  We can grow into better men ourselves, after something like this happens.  Since it seems that an in-person conversation might be avoidable, maybe you can write him a carefully crafted letter, explaining that you're unwilling to carry his learned hatreds anymore, and you hope that some day, some how, he can overcome his hateful, unfounded fears. 

And then, simply forgive him. 

He may not read it, but that's not the real point: the healing point is that you wrote it, mailed or delivered it, and he cannot harm you anymore.  You don't need to go into all the details of the injuries; he knows what he's done.  Maybe one day he'll even ask you for your forgiveness.  But don't let that anticipation prevent you from moving on with your life. Put his hatreds in a drawer you hardly ever open, and let them sit in that dark drawer all by themselves - be done with them.  There's a huge, wide, wonderful world out there, waiting of you to experience it.  

There are many, many caring guys on this site, and when one of us is harmed, we're all harmed too - so please let us know how you are progressing. 

Best of luck, and we're all rooting for you. 

I'm mostly angry because he can't think for himself. Gay guys are bad but he doesn't really know why. I'm a gay guy and he didn't take a moment to say hey he's my childhood friend why do I reject him because he fucks with other guys? I was sick of being the forever single guy. I have my bf the past 7 years for Christ's sake. I think I'll follow an advice from a paris hilton video "if you're not having fun, just leave". 

I won't eve stop wondering about this. I like fucking with guys, why am I to be blamed? I hate hearing that it's a choice, it's not. I didn't choose being a man, being gay or being ginger. But I love all these characteristics of mine no matter what. My heart decided to beat faster when I see someone that I like and my body hair react when I'm touched by a guy. Am I a sinner for that? Me and my pal, we nearly grew in the same house. We were always there for each other. And now? Because I like dudes and not women I am dispeakable? Is this such a hideous crime? Should I be drown in the misery of being forever single or of that of a fake-straight marriage? That would make me loveable in my pal's eyes? I love my bf, he's what helps me go on in my life. That, I wanted to share with my pal, which I cherish as a brother. But that was too much to ask for. I'm just a [banned word] for him. I'm a woman in disguise, or an imposter. I don't look feminine, I do things that "straight guys do" and thus I'm a faker for him. It hurts so much. I was the groomsman in his wedding, I lived that relationship from when he met her till she became he wife. We went together on that. But I was alone with my bf. Nobody to ask. And now? I revealed the truth and what I got in return? Got punched and insulted for what? For just loving a guy? I'm furious, I'm hurt. I don't know which is stronger.

He knows me since forever yet now that my "true nature is revealed" I am part of a gay-network (in my country many people believe that somehow gay guys have a network that support each other), that I have a secret fantasy or turning into a woman, that I have infectious diseases (at least 3-4) and that I tricked him and secretly craved for him. I don't care what god, priests, uneducated people and medieval zombies have to say. Why can't people think for themselves? You know someone since he was a child, why does he turn to a stranger because he likes guys? Why did you never wonder why is he single? I'm so so so.... don't know what word may I use. But I feel so...

9 hours ago, LetsPOZBreed said:

Couple of questions from me:

- How many times have you and your b/f had threesomes (or moresomes)?  Would this be the first one?  If so, this gets a little tricky to navigate.  Before even contemplating anything with this guy, you and your partner need to lay down the ground rules about what is and is off limits during mutual play - not just condom/raw (though that should def be a part of that discussion), but also about any specific acts that might be off limits; things such as do you kiss on the mouth?  Some couples find this part to be very intimate and reserve it between themselves.  As with any other sexual act, it's important to check in with your own partner about what they are willing to consent to in this situation - and THEN you can contemplate how you can approach a threesome with this guy or any other.

- As alluded to in an earlier post, I've been in threes with couples where it was very clear that one of them was more into it than another.  For me, that made things a little uncomfortable - I liked both of them, and went out of my way to give them equal attention during play.  But at the end of the day, once the sex was over, they are still a couple.  If you have any unresolved issues with your partner, your third will notice - and it will make him uncomfortable.

- If you find your guy is interested in the idea of a threeway with you, I'd still check his level of interest in both of you.  Again, you don't want a mismatch where he's into one of you significantly more than the other.  Can lead to hurt feelings that the two of you will be living with once your shag is in the bag.

It's the first time but we were both discussing it for a long time. I always wanted it more but it's him who proposed to actually do it. I love kissing, if I didn't want to kiss someone I wouldn't fuck with him.

I can understand that someone could be more interested than the other but I hope it won't be like that. I was hoping that we would be sucking and getting fucked and he would enjoy, as simple as that. But only time will tell.

43 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

I could be wrong, but the tone of this statement sounds like "I don't care if he's in a monogamous relationship - I want him, and I'm ready to work on getting him to cheat because I don't respect his choice."

Which, if true (and I'm just spitballing here), would make you a pretty shitty person, or at least a person willing to do something pretty shitty. 

No, I meant that it's his decision to make. If he wants to fuck with us and he is not single, it's up to him to decide. I wouldn't even ask if he is single. 

7 hours ago, ErosWired said:

What mythical wonder-apps are these? The general complaint these days about most of the apps is the difficulty in finding men who are actually down to fuck, in any position. In my experience, “hunting” is their primary function, second only to time-wasting.

Frankly, I don’t buy that you’re interested in eliminating the “hunt” from the situation - quite the contrary. You talk about what a “challenge” it will be to seduce him. You talk about how “intriguing” it will be to go after him knowing as little as you do. This is the language of a sexual hunter who has selected a target and relishes the chase.

“Nobody can take my dick easily(well okay at least most people)”

😐 Sure, dude, go with that. Claims that your massive cock will likely overwhelm his ability to take it might also come across like you’re packing an elephant gun…if one were to credit them. You don’t even know if he’s gay, so you have no idea whatsoever how many cocks he’s had or how seasoned his cunt might be. The more we read of this, the more it sounds like you’ve built a fantasy around this scenario and are planning to act on it as though it were real.

I never had trouble with guys that don't want to meet. There are people who say "just browsing" or that guys that don't seem to want to meet but I could easily figure (however it's quite a bit since I last used such an app).

No I don't want to eliminate the hunt, I love that that's what I don't like about apps.

I'm not that massive in terms of dick, it's just fat and it's hard for some people to take. My bf for example had always trouble. I'm having a fantasy about that guy and plan to invite him home to see if it can get real.

On 10/30/2022 at 11:34 AM, BootmanLA said:

Here's the thing: you're making a lot of assumptions, some of which may be reasonable under the circumstances and some of which are just... guesses.

--You assume he's gay, and there's apparently some evidence that may be the case, but you don't know for sure.

--You assume he's single and available, whereas you may not realize he has a boyfriend or partner about whom he's very discreet (the boyfriend may be not out).

--You assume he knows you're a couple, but don't know for sure.

--You hope he's available (see: boyfriend possibility) and interested (no evidence cited) and interested in a threeway (again, no evidence cited).

--You hope he's a bottom (no evidence cited).

--You hope he can take a rough fucking (no evidence cited).

In other words, you're trying to confirm a buttload (no pun intended) of ideas and assumptions about this guy leading to sex in very short order. I'm not saying you can't get answers to all of this one night, but if at any point the information goes in an unexpected direction (he's straight, he's got a partner, he has no idea you're a couple, he's not available, he's not into threesomes, he's not into one or both of you, he's not a bottom, he doesn't like rough fucking), you've got to get through the remainder of whatever social setting - dinner, whatever - you have set up with that awkward realization hanging over you. It won't be fun.

My suggestion is to break this into chunks. Tell him you and your boyfriend are looking to expand your social circle with other gay men, and with apologies in advance if you're assuming incorrectly, ask him if he'd like to get to know you both better. I'd say get coffee or something like that first, because you're on neutral territory and anyone can leave at any point. If he agrees, at that meeting, you can find out about his own dating status, and IF he's single and available, then you can continue.

I'd suggest the second meeting also be at a neutral spot, but for dinner. Again, that way, if it turns out you misread him or he's flattered but not interested or whatever, you can finish dinner and leave separately (which is less awkward than him leaving your house and you having to say goodbye at the door, etc. I'd wait until later in the meal to approach him (which gives you more time to decide if you like him enough to continue down this path). Then just lay your cards on the table: you and your BF both think he's attractive, you're occasionally open, and both are interested in some recreational fun if he's interested - and if not, you'll be happy to just be friends.

That way, if he's really not interested, he doesn't have to wait long to end the dinner, everyone saves face, and you go on your way. If he is interested, you can start negotiating details, and furtively discussing those kinds of things over dinner in a public place can be kind of hot in itself. It also lets him choose to think it over for a future day, or to accept on the spot (which is harder to do if he's at your own house for dinner).

 

You are right. However I think that these make the whole situation intriguing. For me an important aspect that dating apps remove is the "hunting" part. Everyone wants to fuck/get fucked and the tough part is if he wants these with you.

1. if he's not gay I'm gonna be the most surprised guy in the planet and potentially in the solar system

2. Single or not, I don't mind. It could be quite a challenge to seduce him

3. He doesn't know we're a couple but he will find out with some proper discussion

4. That's the intriguing part.

5. He could be a top (odds are against it) but I'm cool with everything

6. Nobody can take my dick easily (well okay at least most people)..

11 minutes ago, UKFFBBBtm said:

I would say to start with you need to decide what you and your bf want when having a threesome. Rubber, BB, limits, off-limits etc. 

Then just ask your friend if he's gay and if he says no then make a joke about it, like damn thought me and bf could have had some fun with you laugh blah blah.

If he says yes then ask if he'd be interested in a 3some. Worst he can say is no.

Well we just wanna have fun and we would like to play with someone younger than us (he's 22 we're 27 and 30). We will use condoms (my bf wants it so I won't oppose I respect that). I was thinking having some dinner, watching a movie and start slightly touching or something or finding a way to imply that somehow.

5 minutes ago, OzzieCumdumpster said:

But he knows both of you, right? You are only inviting him to dinner as both you and your bf find interesting, especially since your bf told him before that you could him with a problem and gathering?

It is a way to get him to your place first off, the alcohol, is usually a good way to get people relaxed especially at dinner. You don't just dive straight in and say we want a 3 some with you, you start with small talk, his interests etc and slowly stir the conversation towards sex.

Or maybe it's just the people I tend to be around when socializing at my home, for some reason all conversations eventually lead to talking about sex, and sometime they turn into a sexual romp (Orgy). My straight and gay friends all know I swing both ways and have never been shy after a few drinks.

He worked with my bf for some time and we have only chatted. He had once proposed to go and see him (like me going to my bf's work so we can all meet but I said no bcz I really don't want to see again anyone from his job it's full or religious bitches).

I mostly worry if he's in to us, if he would like a threesome and if he can take my dick as rough as I want because I'm sick of carefully fucking, I just want to fuck hard 😄

The thing is he doesn't know we're a couple and we don't know he's gay.

However judging from some of his instagram posts and his style  you can be 99,9999% that he's gay and I don't think it's that difficult to understand that me and my bf are a couple. I love that "hunting" feeling. I don't mind if he wants to top, but if he's a bottom I hope he can take my dick bcz my bf has hard time doing so. I've also no experience in threesomes.

My bf and I (we're both versatile) have a common acquaintant (I've only chatted with him via messenger because he needed something and my bf told him I could help). We know he's gay mostly because of his posts and the way he behaves (he's not feminine though). We've never had a threesome but we really want to. He's younger than us and we find him hot. We'd love to top him hard. There are two things though.. how can we possibly give him a hint of what we want without being too.. ehm direct? I don't want him to be in discomfort. The second matter is that my bf would like us to wear a rubber but I don't think I could ever use one (maybe with some practice?). I thought about inviting him for a dinner but I really dont know what to do.

I had a huge pen, I mean really big (but not very thick). I used vaseline and put it inside. Was I had a daddy to teach me how it's done with his dick though.

I'm very confused about men who like being fucked with a strapon. I can't understand whether they're gay (or bi at least) or they really like women. If the idea of being dominate is the key characteristic, isn't it weird to use a "male part" to achieve this domination? And if the means of domination and domination itself is the key characteristic does that mean that they would enjoy being fucked by a man? Furthermore, does the size of the strapon/dildo count? Wouldn't they think bigger is better? In such porn videos I always thought the dildo to be tiny and the woman who fucks to moan for no reason. Plus, isn't it boring since the woman can't feel?

21 hours ago, PendragonSpirit said:

Oh, luv. A struggle I know far too well. One I'm dealing with currently, in fact. 

The short answer is there is no short answer. Nobody but you can determine the truth. And really, what is the difference between being in love and loving someone too much? For what it's worth, though, it sounds like he does love you. Maybe not in a romantic way, but in a deeply platonic way. I would think if there was a romantic interest, he'd have made a move at some point over the years.

The real question is... can you bear to carry around an ever-burning torch forever? That, again, is something only you can answer.

Well.. I have romantic feelings but I hesitate to move any further. I know it can be tormenting not to have what one desires but it doesn't feel that much of a struggle yet. I have almost everything else from him. I can hug him as much I want, I love him more than the words can tell. He loves me too, time has proven that. He feels like a brother (I guess that's how it should feel, I'm an only child). I worry what will happen when he gets married. I know I will always be second than his family and this hurts. But since this will be what makes him happy, I will be happy too (I hope).

21 hours ago, viking8x6 said:

Furthermore, because sex in this context is less about eroticism and more about the expression of a personal bond and trust, it can (and does) cross the lines of "straight" and "gay" (which are only sensibly defined with respect to erotic inclination). I can attest to those possibilities from personal experience - in my case they did become reality, and though very occasional in that case, it was more than once and quite clear that it was intentional and there were no regrets (I was not the instigator).

So, if you and your friend are respectful of each other's feelings and boundaries and can get past our cultural neuroses, it seems to me that you need not fear claiming whatever kind of love you have together and enjoying it to its fullest blossom, whatever that may be in this case. Love is Love, and there's no such thing as too much!

That's one of the truest thing I've ever heard. You put it in the words I couldn't find. It feels like an overflown love that looks for ways to be released and sex could be one of these. I crave for his scent. Somehow I can smell him. Some people don't have that or they don't care about scents, but for me it's important. I'm not talking about bad smells or perfumes. I'm talking about his natural scent that when I breathe it feels like him. I love messing with his hair, I do that and he likes it. He calls me something that more or less means "tiny baby" which would sound very weird between males (or friends in general) and I call him something that means (not exactly though) my loved one. Sometimes I may use a t'shirt of his and jerk off, I enjoy it. I often feel that without him I would be sad.

I always thought of that as a cliché, or even worse a stereotype about gays and their straight friends. But now it's me the one with the crush. I'm 24yo and so is my friend. We know each other since forever. We were always very close. He was the first guy to tell I'm gay. He was very happy when I did tell him. I had a crash on a guy back then and he had figured. He felt very happy that I trusted him with that. But he's a str8 guy, he has had plenty of gfs. I feel troubled though. I definitely love him but I can't tell for sure whether there is something sexual/sensual/erotic or whatever else you may call it. I know he loves me too, at least as a friend. Love is a misused word. People say that they love their friends but I'm not sure if they realise how big that word is. I love that guy. Some days ago, we slept together for some nights. I felt so close to him. We spent days together, we cooked together, we watched movies together. It felt as if we were a couple minus the sexual part. That made me feel that I don't need anything else in my life than him. I've absolutely no doubt about his orientation. He's so gentle and caring with me though. We exchange goodnight messages, we talk daily and meet several times a week. We call each other certain names that I'd feel embarrassed if someone else heard me (or him) calling. Somehow I still see inside him the child that he was and I feel as a child again with him. He's the person that feels like home.

One more thing to say. I enjoy close contact with him. Hugs, and rubbing each other is usual. So what I'm trying to decipher? Whether I'm in love with him or just love him too much.