misterpiggy

I am with RideMyBlkDik in disagreeing with nelliess. I do not think the decision to bareback is a gradual journey. That verbiage sounds very warm and fuzzy. But taking a man's raw cock up your fuck hole is a precursor to getting bred. Period. So like RideMyBlkDik I will say that barebacking is the final frontier. If you wanna talk warm and fuzzy and be treated like a child just go watch Sesame Street. If you want to talk about the journeys we take in life, try listening to Deepak Chopra. If you wanna take my bare cock up your ass then be prepared to take my load. Any questions?

You summed it up very well revemupman. Bare fucking and breeding go hand in hand. Is there anyone reading this who doesn't believe that?

A bottom who agrees to get fucked bare is NOT simultaneously agreeing to take his partner's full load in his ass as well. However many tops unequivocally have the mindset that bottoms MUST know that pulling out is not an option. Many strict total tops see the world that way. I believe when RideMyBlkDik referred to Political Correctness (PC) he's referring to "putting pressure on other people to accept your point of view exclusively". I can't speak for him, but I don't believe he means that tops put pressure on bottoms who take their raw dick....and expect the bottoms to give up their right to not accept loads up the ass. cam1972 refers to this very eloquently in his posts when he said bottoms are free human being with rights...and therefore tops should be mindful of the bottoms requests. It seems to me that context is important in this discourse. And for those of us who studied Discourse Analysis in college, we know that the way we frame, or package, or views can make all the difference in what the other person perceives to be our intent. So I agree with both cam1972 and RideMyBlkDik. The latter expressed he's a total top and whenever a bottom tells him "not to cum inside him", most strict tops perceive that to be cruel and unusual punishment. Whether the top complies or not is where I believe cam1972 reverts to the rights to bottoms. However I am careful to talk about rights in this discourse. Rights is hinting that there are legal ramifications. Like a bottom can actual take a top to court and sue the top for unloading his cum inside the bottom.....when clearly the bottom explicitly asked him to pull out. Does anyone here think that argument would hold up in a court of law? Here again the context would be important. A prisoner being bred my another inmate or the corrections staff might have a case. A man like you or me barebacking in a bathhouse, a sex party, or an adult book store....you wouldn't stand a chance in hell trying to prosecute the top for willfully and knowingly unloading inside the bottom. But ethically I do believe there are times when the top should be mindful of the bottom's request. But always keep in mind, this is bareback fucking so any thought of PC goes on the back burner. Nobody is pressuring anybody to do anything here. We are all grown men. Consensual adults. Like at the baths, we should all know that we are in a field of horny men. Within that kind of horny environment, both tops and bottoms have rights and choices. When our hormones are raging our judgement might get cloudy...in that context a bottom might actually say don't cum inside me....but he really doesn't care either way. Plus tops might even decide to pull out before nutting.... for no good reason whatsoever. This thread really examines where each person stands on the issue of unloading inside another man. As a top, how do you feel about it? As a bottom, have you ever uttered those words? If yes, why? Basically the message here for bottoms is that they should be aware that telling a top to pull out will be perceived as cruel and unusual punishment for the top.

I have read the above-mentioned quote numerous times. Those thoughts are very accurate and very profound. Indeed as you said "political correctness has no place between two men having bareback sex". Thank you for your contribution to this website.

Your post is fascinating as always. But I have 2 questions for you... 1. Do you believe a top can "accidentally " cum inside a bottom during raw sex? 2. In your opinion, does consensual bareback fucking come with an implied risk that the top might nutt inside the bottom without the bottom's knowledge? As a man who thinks as clearly as you do, how would you answer those 2 questions?

Thank you cam1972. That's one of the most brilliant post I have ever read on this website. Thank you.

It's rather disturbing for me to read some of the posts on this topic. What about the top respecting the wishes of the bottom? Are there any circumstances when the top should comply when the bottom says no to the top unloading inside him? Like I said earlier many men have been charged with sexual assault and rape simply because they did not understand that no means no. A stiff cock has no conscience but the bottom has rights too.

You are suggesting that the top should lie to the bottom and just cum inside the bottom's arse anyway. What about respecting your partner's wishes? Sexual assaults and rape usually occur when a man doesn't understand that when it comes to sex, no means no.

I have read many of cam1972 posts because I like the way he thinks. However this time I cannot agree. How many times has any of us entered into a verbal agreement with a sex partner at a sex party or the baths? In those settings, do you TELL your sex partner what your expectations are before you start fucking? .....Really? It is a well known fact that it's very difficult to negotiate sex acts before or during the act itself. cam1972's response suggests that if the bottom does agree with the top's demand to jizz inside him then the bottom should just move on.....maybe that's how it works in porn movies. That kind of thing doesn't happen in real life.