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Hi @TaKinGDeePanal , I excerpted several things that seem like malinformation, misinformation, and disinformation, along with appreciation for the heads up on the bomb threats, which I either never knew or totally forgot. While I do not wish that our dear censors would subject your unsupported assertions to the same banning that they regularly accept non-leftist unsupported assertions, it would be really nice to see some sources for what you assert here. BTW, I personally have no problem telling the difference between (or at least have a high tolerance for) an asserted interpretation, hyperbole, a hypothesis, an opinion, a "fact" (be it true or false), and a "statistic" (be it logically or illogically cited). I don't have a problem with "gut" either. (Dear censors, consider giving us all some grace to mix our interpretations and assertions in with your love of "facts" of whatever source you think credible.) here are some sources for my assertions: Relates to "pro-Trump MSM/Russian social media disinformation" - Russiagate is a hoax: [think before following links] https://www.racket.news/p/why-is-russiagates-origin-story-redacted. - The Durham Report provides pretty conclusive evidence that FBI/DOJ ignored leads about the "Clinton Plan intelligence" to falsely associate Donald Trump with Russia and acted only on the uncorroborated "Steele Dossier" which hid the Clinton connection: [think before following links] https://www.justice.gov/archives/media/1381211/dl (look at p.78). - although I'm unable to find a citation for the debunking of the Russia social media election interference, this wikipedia article shows the extent of US interference in foreign elections (over 60 citations of US interference versus 15 for Russia. Even if you add the Soviet Union [an extra 28] despite the fact that it was a different government, it strains credibility that bots on FaceTime spouting ideologies that didn't resonate with a native population would turn an election ([think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_electoral_interventions). Relates to "Gaza (which we Kremlinologists know to be the Second Front of Ukraine)" - can you at least do more than appeal to your Kremlinologist priesthood authority and explain? It's an interesting, provocative statement that would be fun to hear more on. It's not clear whether you are saying that Russia and Israel are on the same side, or that Ukraine and Israel are on the same side. Relates to "the majority of the US voting public deciding that a black female was inferior to a white male" - I'm interpreting this as your privilege (which I fully support) to assert that racism and anti-feminism were the main causes of Kamala's defeat. If you have any polling data or numbers on how much these factors contributed, it would be more to chew on than an identitarian assertion. Relates to "voter intimidation, e.g., arson attacks on ballot boxes and bomb threats being called in to polling places" - crazy, I don't remember this at all @TaKinGDeePanal, here are some sources on the Bomb Threats: [think before following links] https://apnews.com/article/vote-ballot-drop-box-democracy-fire-f66c52f774955106fb9e7c8172825cff and [think before following links] https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-bomb-threats-to-polling-locations, none of which appeared to be credible so far. Of course, the first news source claims to debunk 2000 Mules, when in fact they are casting a very reasonable doubt on 2000 Mules, so it makes me distrust the source's ability to be fully logical. Given the use of Russian e-mails, combined with the fact that none were credible, I hypothesize that this was a false flag smear, but I am not stating a fact, merely a hypothesis.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this @brnbk. I bet you describe the default, but is it as it should be? To take an extreme example, is it my doctor’s job to write my living Will? I think Most people would agree that it is not a doctors role to make your choices for you. I see it more as a collaborative model where the doctor may have strong recommendations (e.g., prescriptions, but those recommendations don’t usurp your bodily autonomy. I bet doctor-patient relationships fall all over the spectrum as to how long a leash patients give their doctors. I know I think My doctor is there for ME, I am not there for my doctor. Interested to see how others view their doctors’ roles…

@BlindRawFucker1 curious to know if you’d have a reaction to the substance of @harrysmith25’s point if it were rewritten something to the effect of (apologies in advance @harrysmith25 if I mangle your meaning) “they’d all have to be exhibiting a complete inability to act in a consistent intelligible manner.” Any dispute of the point that was being made?

@tallslenderguy, this really resonated with me as a great background on the current political landscape. even though folks may perceive my comments as more likely to be right than left i'd argue that it seems to offer a relatively non-partisan explanation. it does seem to offer some demystification. thanks very much for sharing.

I think this is a very interesting point @tallslenderguy . However, I struggle to see the morality of putting these costs on the back of the taxpayer when they end up as massive corporate profits for big pharma especially. It does seem like a waste to slash and burn programs that generate value but I’d like to see that as leverage at least in negotiations on drug prices and other consumer goods that benefit from this tax redistribution.

I think you have a great point @tallslenderguy it’s always incredibly reductionistic to speak about giant groups in short sentences. I’m sure you’re right that many Democrats didn’t feel particularly well represented (this is not intended to be a partisan point true of Republicans and even my party the Libertarians). I regret structuring the headline I created without more laser focus. I was reacting to memories of conversations with a small sample of Democrats I spoke with many in my family who seemed almost programmed to regurgitate talking points. I don’t think only Democrats do this BTW think a large cohort of partisans of any stripe put loyalty to the group over loyalty to truth. Another dynamic I was pressing in particular was Jake Tapper’s behavior. He sets himself up as a trusted partner of truth but clearly (IMHO) obfuscated for years about Biden’s mental health and now when it’s obvious he was either lying or in deep denial…. ….&nb When someone does that to me I write them off as unreliable (much as many Republicans did to Nixon). If my initial post doesn’t inspire introspection among my Demo-bros I will only have my self and my bludgeon-style prose to blame.

My mom suffered from dementia and died last October. She progressed from forgetting how to make coffee to chasing the little real versions of NaNaNa that were 2 years old. Even though I became the pretend NaNaNa last year, I knew that mom loved me. You can still love someone and not lie about them. Democrats, were you really not able to tell? If you couldn’t, do you really think Jill Ashley Hunter and Camilla (and of course, closer to home, Kamala) were unable to tell? How do you think your ability to tell or not reflects the trustworthiness of 1) your judgement; 2) the judgement of your preferred media; and 3) the trust anyone would put in your party going forward? am I just being mean. or does credibility have a value outside of the partisan chorale (yes chorale with falsetto cows mooing in high octaves)? would you invite Jake Tapper to moo at your funeral? maybe it’s time for a Whig revival…

Hi @brnbk, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I saw her speak, and her concern was for the effect of the MRNA vaccine on her pregnancy and her fetus. She also was a strong advocate of medical freedom and believed that each of us owns our own health, and that doctors are advisors but do not get to take over our health choices. If your suspicion is correct, this would still put her at odds with the US Federal guidance of that era that natural immunity is inferior to the Pfizer or Moderna shot. Can you help explain how you are making sense of whether or not she already had COVID? I agree with you that it is important to read between the lines, but I am having a hard connecting the dots on your hypothesis. Thank you!

[think before following links] https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/top-fda-official-discloses-she-never-received-covid-19-vaccine

I think the Clinton Administration still ranks higher in terms of the number of Feds furloughed. As a former Fed, I was sickened by the number of people who express sympathy for me rather than sympathy for the taxpayers that overpay for a 25th annual date with the government. I can definitely appreciate that other countries find Trump’s style a bit oafish, but I’m surprised they haven’t realized that he’s talking a mean game until he sees that they’re coming to the table. Amen to that. If the President has determined that he can get results for less than Congress gave him, he’s behaving EXACTLY like a CEO of a Fortune 50 company. Huzzah! And love the chart!

Hi NWUSHorny, just checking to see whether you are going to affirm your position that MAGA people of all stripes “always” believe they are the real victims…? Very respectfully this comes across as hyperbole. Perhaps you were triggered to caricature a class of people? peace, NaNaNa

Not making fun @harrysmith25, just enjoying.

Hi @SDCumPup, It’s been over two weeks since you wrote your smack. Although there’s an off chance that you’re still polishing your response, I’m going to conclude that you really weren’t mounting a substantial argument, you were just expressing a dislike and maybe listening to your gut more than your scientific savvy. I ‘m a big fan of people who listen to their gut. I’m also a big fan of scientific savvy. It’s a really good idea to know oneself and the difference between gut and savvy before one picks up the pen.

[think before following links] https://daily.jstor.org/the-myth-of-the-papal-toilet-chair/

Great point 🙂

what?¿? I knew about the smoke coming out of the Vatican but not the testicle fondling part… any references?

upon further reflection, which seemed worth it given the less-than-charitable response, I illustrate that my initial point had nothing do with inflation CAUSES, but instead with the EXPERIENCE of losing purchasing power. this might have been picked up on by anyone who has empathy for folks who lose 20% or greater purchasing power, but probably not picked up by anyone who is focused on defending the reputation of a politician. it is certainly a great topic (not my focus) to expand the conversation to the causes of inflation, and I would happily concede that I fell into the bad habit of Americans since the Reagan era (Reagonomics yes, but not Carteromics) to attribute all economic performance to a sitting President. it's wonderful to practice coexistence by having AND conversations rather than BUT or EITHER/OR conversations. @Rillionperhaps next time you are triggered to MadLib a choice architecture for my character for me (and all others on this thread), perhaps you will breathe, take a beat, and consider whether the initial point and your adrenillated points might be COMPATIBLE rather than OPPOSITIONAL. Peace and joy, NaNaNa

I think you have a more thorough and more accurate description @Rillion. I agree that the uniparty passed bills in both the Trump 45 and Biden administrations that jacked up the money supply and debt, which has a cumulative effect over multiple institutions’ and administrations’ decisions. While I think your underlying analysis is good, I found the Biden administration particularly tone deaf in acknowledging the effects of inflation on the public and particularly willing to attribute it to things like the Putin Price Hike and claim victory over inflation when people were still suffering. As to whether I’m a fucking idiot, a liar, a partisan troll, or a liar, I leave that question for each to answer as they will.

I love the link about propaganda Viking8x6, but like insatiableholeinTO am a bit confused by how you assess the truth value. Your methodology for assessing some of the things I wrote seemed to be about turning to wikipedia for the truth. Last time I was suspended, you offered to be a bit more transparent about what authorities you turn to when you either lack domain knowledge or alternatively wish to provide a citation. Are you now saying that the US government website is not an authoritative source? Any additional transparency would be appreciated.

UGH, seems that the prior standard already prohibited transmission of obscene content if there is proof of "abusing, threatening, or harassing a person" per the article. to be fair (may not be a popular view here), i'd imagine that it is pretty difficult for parents to control what underage children see. Still, don't adults clearly have the right to do what they want unless it harms others?

Things move so quickly. Here's the joint statement about US China economic negotiations from the Chinese ([think before following links] https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202505/12/content_WS6821a0bbc6d0868f4e8f2792.html) and White House ([think before following links] https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/05/joint-statement-on-u-s-china-economic-and-trade-meeting-in-geneva/) Interestingly enough, the New Arab is reporting that Pakistan's "win" in the ceasefire with India sent Chinese military stocks much higher, given that they showcased China's superiority in military technology for the money compared to India's US, French, and Israeli suppliers: [think before following links] https://www.newarab.com/news/pakistans-use-chinese-weapons-against-india-gamechanger I had never heard of the New Arab, but it looks to have been started as a left-of-center counterweight to Al Jazeera: [think before following links] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-arab/

Hi Guys, @tallslenderguy wrote, and I really like this idea that comedians can help partisans see that the other side is human too: @BootmanLA had a nice insight (that I generally agree with) when he wrote: The traditional fool who worked for the king was often the only one allowed to make fun of the king's bad decisions. I have a slightly different view of great comedy, related to both of these, but my favorite comedians are generally those who hold up the mirror to point out hidden truths, which can sometimes be painful but are often able to give voice to things that have gone unacknowledged for too long and are festering. This can seem like punching down if there is no empathy for the target, but sometimes the culture has lost clarity and creates privileges for marginalized groups that become aggravators of discord among tribes. I also would love to think that humor is universal, but I've found that people react very differently to comedy depending upon their partisanship, even if their intention is to be open to being amused, also can be offensive. There is also comedy where the comedian thinks they're chasing truth but end up painting with too broad a brush in a way that people outside the cohort don't recognize and find stereotypical or just plain off. It can also be so nice that it doesn't rise to the level of authenticity, which is also a humor killer. With that preface, I'd love to hear some other examples of comedians that may be great examples of political or above-political comedy, of comedy that makes the tribes love each other more or focuses on more universal truths that transcend partisanship, of punch-up comedy, of punch-down comedy, or of comedy that provides painful insights, like King Lear's fool (not necessarily punch-up or punch-down. I'd also be interested to see people's reactions to the list. Always looking for an insightful comedian. (May have to be a great era of the comedian's career, or may be only one routine). It's often easier to find consensus from the past since most of us have grown up accepting wisdom from the victors, maybe George Carlin, or Dick Gregory? (Definitely harder to do when the would-be-victors are in the midst of past-making in the present, but still interested if people have comedians that they think are transforming or even better finding the absurdity in the culture right now): Here's Dick Gregory at a Southern Diner in the Civil Rights era: George Carlin on the 7 words you can't say: These are old, but anything newer people might want to share?

Maybe the censors should review posts from 2020-2024 and suspend everyone who promoted the wet market pangolin-barebacks-and-cums-in-slut-bat-at-a-wonton-street-sauna theory. Ha Ha Joking sort-of

I got that spelling from some initial reports, even the Vatican website (I think), but I revisited them, and they have all normalized around the English spelling at least in English. A lion in sheep's silk robes, but so far, generally I LOVE everything he has said since he has become Pope, against war, admonishing journalists to promote peace rather than whip up hatred, and be cautious with but enter the digital fray. I hope he takes up the challenge to Pope Francis to go to Gaza. Judgement withheld, but hope springing again. [think before following links] https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope.html