Administrators rawTOP Posted October 31, 2010 Administrators Report Posted October 31, 2010 From what I hear young guys (say under 21, but legal) bareback a lot, but I think for them it's more 'regular sex' than conscious barebacking - they don't seem to seek out giving/getting loads the way guys who are older seek them out. While there are always a few that seem to figure things out at a young age, it seems most guys don't really join the bareback community until their mid-20s. Maybe it takes them becoming poz before they fully embrace barebacking - I'm not sure... So, my question is sorta a marketing question... How can we get teens (legal) and twinks immersed into the bareback community more quickly? How do we get them from regular sex that's bareback into specifically seeking out loads? (preferably multiple anonymous loads)... Should we market bareback sex differently? Are there forms of marketing that are more effective for younger audiences? What things are a turn off for young guys? This is probably best answered by those of you who are young... You're more connected to the target audience...
Guest diapbttmboi Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 If you are meeting young guys then just don't mention barebacking or condoms or "i wanna fuck you raw", just go and do it. They will be horny and most will not object. However I do not agree with this if you are poz, you have to tell them!
Btm! Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 I think a bit of dirty talk would ease them into it. Keep talking about cum and how much it turns you on to be fucking raw. I think just by making more of a point of it... that's what started it for me. I loved how turned on guys would get by it, even the idea, that I eventually found it a turn on myself...
Administrators rawTOP Posted October 31, 2010 Author Administrators Report Posted October 31, 2010 If you are meeting young guys then just don't mention barebacking or condoms or "i wanna fuck you raw", just go and do it. They will be horny and most will not object. I'm not really trying to get at how to hookup with young guys as much as how to market barebacking to them... The question is more like how do we get them to be regulars at sites like this or how do we get them to create profiles on bareback hookup sites like BBRT? It more than getting them to bareback. It's about getting them to think of themselves as barebackers - how to get them to crave giving and taking loads... We all know barebacking is addictive... How to we get them to be an addict and crave more of it? I think a bit of dirty talk would ease them into it. Keep talking about cum and how much it turns you on to be fucking raw. I think just by making more of a point of it... that's what started it for me. I loved how turned on guys would get by it, even the idea, that I eventually found it a turn on myself... That works 1-on-1, but what can people like me do to get more guys to crave barebacking? Do young guys want tube sites with bareback porn? Should I advertise on particular sites where they hang out? Stuff like that?
NYCKinkDad Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 Show em cock, they'll always follow the cock.
cumbro Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 Once you've fucked or been fucked raw, it's very hard to get the same satisfaction with a condom. So fucking bb is the best marketing, plus reinforcement by hot older guys. College bros with raging hormones just want to get off, and they assume they're immortal. Just keep fucking raw and they will want to fuck raw, too.
bottomcub85 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Posted November 1, 2010 I can tell you, as a young person (25-years-old, so relatively young), that bareback sex will sell itself. No one likes using condoms unless they outright fetishize them. BUT, if you're seeking an edge in that demographic against other sites, that could be accomplished through fresh, competent web design. Think: Vimeo.com, Devour.com. Clean, modern, community-driven, and in high definition. Standard definition hurts young eyes. Also using H.264 or HTML5 video codecs for mobile devices like iPods and smart phones is a huge opportunity for young audiences. Young people are mobile. I've been stranded plenty of places with just my iPhone when I needed a quick porn fix and phone-friendly sites like Gaytube.com get that job done. Phones are glamorous now, and porn on your mobile can be too, by extension. Look at the success of GuysWithiPhones.com Give boys a fast, free, and elegantly put together tube site catering HD and on-the-go playback and you're golden. Can't emphasize web design enough. Websites like BBRT are so fucking dated looking it's no wonder they have mostly older users.
bottomcub85 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Posted November 1, 2010 Hiring young people would be the first step.
Deaner Posted November 1, 2010 Report Posted November 1, 2010 Remember the old L'Oreal commercial... "because I'm worth it"? Every generation seems to get more and more obsessed with instant gratification, self-indulgence, convenience, and their own ego. I saw we market to bareback tops that there is no REASON why they should need to put up with condoms. Sex is for worry-free enjoyment, and they DESERVE to blow a load in a raw hole whenever they like, since so many guys are accommodating to the idea. Especially for Bi and Str8 guys worried about paternity tests and Bristol-Palin fans, the chance to breed a raw hole is an experience worth enjoying to the fullest. For bottoms, sell the convenience factor. Raw, uninhibited contact with your mate. Share your soul while he shares his load. For years, the fear of HIV was the same as getting a death sentence or bubonic plague. Today, having (and treating) the virus can be less intrusive than getting a shot for other STDs or even diabetes or heart disease. My sister takes more pills than I do, and has a shorter expected life span that I do, even though she is considered 'completely healthy' and I have an 'incurable disease'. The European Health agency has even found that poz guys who continue to bareback has considerably longer lifespans than those who practice safe sex (they're not sure if it boosts the immune system, or simply provides a better quality of life) Recruiting new barebackers should be like watching a car commercial. None of them tell you that you're far more likely to die in a car wreck than a plane crash... they just focus on the joy of driving a luxury car.
Administrators rawTOP Posted November 1, 2010 Author Administrators Report Posted November 1, 2010 I can tell you, as a young person (25-years-old, so relatively young), that bareback sex will sell itself. No one likes using condoms unless they outright fetishize them. BUT, if you're seeking an edge in that demographic against other sites, that could be accomplished through fresh, competent web design.Think: Vimeo.com, Devour.com. Clean, modern, community-driven, and in high definition. Standard definition hurts young eyes. Also using H.264 or HTML5 video codecs for mobile devices like iPods and smart phones is a huge opportunity for young audiences. Young people are mobile. I've been stranded plenty of places with just my iPhone when I needed a quick porn fix and phone-friendly sites like Gaytube.com get that job done. Phones are glamorous now, and porn on your mobile can be too, by extension. Look at the success of GuysWithiPhones.com Give boys a fast, free, and elegantly put together tube site catering HD and on-the-go playback and you're golden. Can't emphasize web design enough. Websites like BBRT are so fucking dated looking it's no wonder they have mostly older users. GREAT comments... Design - My boyfriend is an excellent designer but possibly busier than I am... I've been begging him for months to do design work for me. I've got some logos done, but nothing else... I really need to find a good junior designer and have my bf manage him. Any designers out there looking for work? Mobile - I know what you mean, and I've been thinking about it for a while... This site has a mobile interface via a 3rd party iPhone/Android app, but it's lacks access to the galleries, the blogs, etc - so it's hard to use it to jack off unless you jack off to stories (possible, but not so sexy). My blogs aren't mobile optimized and the videos are Flash-based, so they don't work on the iPhone... Been wanting to fix that, but it's a bit complicated. I'm working on a iPhone/iPad optimized picture gallery site. Still conceptual at this point - trying to figure out how to build it simply. And then there's the tube and chat site I want to deploy. Working out hosting details now and that will be mobile-optimized... (and I'm going to try to have HD versions of the videos available to paid members - too expensive to give away for free, and the membership price will be cheap). BTW, HTML5 video isn't quite "there" yet... There are some fundamental player issues that are still missing. Seems everyone who tries it rolls back to regular video players that degrade to something usable on mobile devices. I really like the focus on design and mobile. It makes sense and gives me something practical to work on. Hiring young people would be the first step. The guy who works for me full-time is 27 y.o. dom poz top, and one of my writers is a hot 23 y.o. jock...
Administrators rawTOP Posted November 1, 2010 Author Administrators Report Posted November 1, 2010 Remember the old L'Oreal commercial... "because I'm worth it"? Every generation seems to get more and more obsessed with instant gratification, self-indulgence, convenience, and their own ego. I saw we market to bareback tops that there is no REASON why they should need to put up with condoms. Sex is for worry-free enjoyment, and they DESERVE to blow a load in a raw hole whenever they like, since so many guys are accommodating to the idea. Especially for Bi and Str8 guys worried about paternity tests and Bristol-Palin fans, the chance to breed a raw hole is an experience worth enjoying to the fullest.For bottoms, sell the convenience factor. Raw, uninhibited contact with your mate. Share your soul while he shares his load. For years, the fear of HIV was the same as getting a death sentence or bubonic plague. Today, having (and treating) the virus can be less intrusive than getting a shot for other STDs or even diabetes or heart disease. My sister takes more pills than I do, and has a shorter expected life span that I do, even though she is considered 'completely healthy' and I have an 'incurable disease'. The European Health agency has even found that poz guys who continue to bareback has considerably longer lifespans than those who practice safe sex (they're not sure if it boosts the immune system, or simply provides a better quality of life) Recruiting new barebackers should be like watching a car commercial. None of them tell you that you're far more likely to die in a car wreck than a plane crash... they just focus on the joy of driving a luxury car. Good points, though more advertising than marketing... I was envisioning advertising for the Cumdump Network as I was reading your comments... The cumdump network will be totally about instant gratification for the tops. "Why bother with a fussy safe sex bottom? A cumdump will your load now - no questions asked."
wammt Posted November 1, 2010 Report Posted November 1, 2010 I am definitely not a young type; but dealing with them I have noticed that the main thing they are looking exactly what 'bottomcub85' brought up in his first post. More use of social media (Facebook?) and mobile. Everybody has apps. for phones, and that will be the way to go.
Rancor4 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Posted November 2, 2010 Most of the young university guys around here don't even mention a rubber or status, they just bend on over ;-)
slutboy30 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Posted November 4, 2010 You have to fight all the stuff making HIV sound like a death sentence. Guys are afraid of the virus I think because they think it will be the end of their lives. All you have to do is get them to try it once. All it takes is one time to have cum deep in your hole for you to become an addicted cum whore.
wammt Posted November 4, 2010 Report Posted November 4, 2010 You have to fight all the stuff making HIV sound like a death sentence. Guys are afraid of the virus I think because they think it will be the end of their lives. All you have to do is get them to try it once. All it takes is one time to have cum deep in your hole for you to become an addicted cum whore. Do factual stories from long time POZ guys help in this regard?
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