TheBreeder Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 To see Breeder's original blog post click here Some of you may be wondering why I broke out a section from yesterdayâs Cruising 101 guide on the gay bathhouse in order to talk about something as effete and nebulous as etiquette. Iâll tell you why. Itâs because last Friday night I decided to hit the local baths when nothing interesting was happening online. For three and a half hours I sat there in my room, or cruised in the steam room, or walked the hallways, while I watched guys engage in all kinds of assholery. It almost seemed as if the men there that night were determined not to connect with each other. I ended up leaving without so much as a hand job. Thatâll happen from time to time. One night, youâre king of the bathhouse and everyone wants a piece of you. Another night, youâll feel one of the untouchables, a leprous caste shunned by any and all passers-by. Some blame it on the conjunction of the stars, or just the luck of the draw. I, however, tend to suspect these nights happen when a little bad behavior spreads like wildfire and fucks with everyoneâs mood. So Iâm presenting a few suggestions for your consideration, so that everyone can have a good time at the baths. Rule #1: No Means No The world does not end because someone refuses you. Itâs just a minor road bump. Donât escalate it into a car wreck. Seriously. If a guy tells you no, whether by saying the word or its equivalent, or by his body language, it means he doesnât want to have sex with you. Move away, and move on. If you reach for a manâs junk in the steam room and he gently pushes away your hand, it means he doesnât want you touching him. It doesnât mean that he wants you to use both hands to attempt to wrench apart his knees and give it another go. If you step into a guyâs dark room to ask if he wants some company, and he says no, it means he doesnât want your company. It doesnât mean he wants you to shut the door, turn on the light, sit down, and try to talk him into it. If youâve been following around a guy and he keeps moving away from you in the movie room, or leaves the steam room when you step in there, or sidles to the other side of the sauna to get away from you, it means he doesnât want you near him. It doesnât mean that you should follow him all the more relentlessly in case he eventually changes his mind. There seems to be a circular logic that comes into play in the lust-fogged minds of men when theyâre in the dark halls of a bathhouse. If that guy doesnât want to have sex with me right now, they seem to think, heâll definitely want to play with me after Iâve made a thorough nuisance of myself. Or, Maybe if I corner him so he canât get away, heâll be forced to play with me. Just donât. Rule #2: Be Polite This goes for men who do the rejecting, as well as those who have been rejected. Donât snarl âFuck off!â at some poor schmoe whoâs dared to stick a head in your room. Just look the other direction and close your legs, or simply say, âNo thanksâ if he asks if you want company. Not âNot in a million fucking years!â, or âJesus H. Christ, as if!â or âNot on your best day, troll!â (All of which Iâve observed in bathhouses.) Just âNo thanks.â I know guys who soften the blow by modifying it to âNo thanks, Iâm waiting for someone.â Or âNo thanks, Iâm resting.â Thatâs fine, even though the subtext is clearly Iâm waiting for someone who isnât you and Iâm resting until someone better comes by. As long as your tone is pleasant and youâre not offensive, your wishes should be respected. Likewise, if youâre the one on the receiving end of the no-thank-you, donât rise to anger. Itâs not your opportunity snap, âWell honey, you ainât that hot!â and flounce off. Itâs not an open invitation to observe, âNever mind, the guy in the room across the hall is ten times hotter than you and he has anal warts!â or âI donât know why you of all people have got such an attitude.â (Again, all of which Iâve observed in bathhouse settings.) Donât plan elaborate fantasies in your mind about how that asshole is going to be desperate enough in an hour that heâll be begging you to come into his room and youâll remind him of what a dick he was and laugh, just laugh right into his face. Say âThanks, then,â or something similarly neutral and polite, and move on. If you really had your hopes up, add something like, âGrab me if you change your mind later.â And move on. Rule #3: Check Your Bad Moods at the Door If you arrive at the bathhouse mad at the world and spend your time stomping around the place in a high dudgeon, youâre not going to have fun. If you arrive at the bathhouse and are so fed up with how many old Depends-wearing senior citizens/stupid twinks/ethnic guys/married guys/bar queens/muscle marys/bears who are going to clog up the drains with all that fucking hair they let through the door, and if you find yourself holding your nose in the air and saying things like, âIt USED to be fun to come here!â, youâre not going to have a good time. If you arrive, strip down, and are certain that no one in the establishment is going to want you because youâre overweight, or bald, or old, or too young, or too ugly, or have a weird mole thing, then youâre right. No one is going to want you. But itâs not because of your age or looks. Itâs because youâre walking around with a scowl on your face and scaring everyone. You might be surprised how many people find you attractive in the bathhouse setting, if youâre willing to be pleasant and friendly. Iâd throw in what my mom used to say about catching more flies with honey than vinegar, here, only you might think it was corny. Rule #4: Donât Be A Stalker The incivility of the baths is one of its less attractive features. While the vast majority of the men present are friendly and polite, there are always a handful that make the experience exasperating for everyone. Donât be one of them. Itâs easy at a bathhouse to get into the mindset that you have to get laid. Now. Youâve paid twenty freakinâ dollars, and dammit, youâre going to get your moneyâs worth. The notion of getting a return on that investment haunts a lot of men once theyâre roaming the hallways. Theyâre desperate to get action and validation from someone. Anyone. These are the guys who, instead of letting you enter the steam room, look around, and choose your spot, will immediately stand up and chase you into corner, where theyâll stroke themselves furiously and stare you down. Never mind that youâve got your legs clenched shut and your arms crossed and your eyes closed to repel them. Theyâre going to get action from someone, dammit, and it might as well be you. These are the guys who develop a fixation on an innocent victim and follow him everywhere in the bathhouse until he finally surrenders his towel to the front desk and leaves out of self-preservation. These are the guys who hang around the check-in counter and follow guys to their rooms even before theyâve gotten their clothes off. And theyâre the guys who, upon seeing someone they want leading another man back to his room, will follow and trying to elbow his way in to join them before the door closes. Donât be that guy. Recognize the signals. Remember that no means no. Take a deep breath. Getting laid isnât a life-or-death situation. Getting a bad reputation as a stalker is only going to ruin your chance of having fun. Rule #5: Guys Want Variety Most men visit the bathhouse because they know there are going to be a number of men looking for sex. Most men want to experience a number of these guys, while theyâre there. Not all of them, of course. Some guys use the facility to meet a significant other or an arranged date because itâs cheaper and cleaner than a sleazy motel. But most men are practical. Theyâre not coming to the tubs to meet a soulmate, or find lifelong love. They want several dicks in their holes, or to connect with a few good men and dump a few loads. If you have good sex with a guy, donât be offended when he suggests you âtake a showerâ or âtake a break for a little while.â Thatâs probably his signal that he wants to clean you off of his dick and go out and play with someone else. Donât mope or whine or talk about the dream you concocted while blowing him of knitting his sweaters and finding a little place in Florida youâd share in your golden years. Thank him for his time, tell him to grab you again later if he wants, and go forth and play some more yourself. Feel free to offer him your number or your email addressâmost places have little cards and pens just for that purpose. But donât try to keep him chained to your side all day. Rule #6: Avoid Sending Mixed Signals Part of reason so many men donât obey the no means no rule is that a lot of guys send out mixed signals when they reject someone. Whether itâs out of fear or over-politeness or an unwillingness to be confrontational by being definite, theyâll do anything except give a clear indication of no thanks. When you want to say No, you shouldnât say, Maybe later. It only strings someone along. Donât wink and say, Check back with me in a few minutes when you donât want the guy to check back with you at all. Itâs not fair to keep them on the hook when youâre too cowardly to turn them down gently. On a more general level, donât advertise yourself as available for certain activities that youâre not willing to carry through. If youâre on your hands and knees on your cot in your room with the door open, donât be offended and surprised when someone assumes you want to be fucked. If youâre sticking your hard dick in the vicinity of a gloryhole, donât be upset when someone on the other side reaches through to fondle or suck it. And if youâre kneeling in a corner of a piss play/urinal room with your mouth wide open and a blindfold covering your eyes, itâs a little bit disingenuous when someone decides to spray your face and chest with urine to stand up and yell, âKey-rist, what the fuck do you think youâre doing?!â (Again, all of which Iâve seen in bathhouses.) Rule #7: Be Clean Show up with your holes cleaned out, if you want to get fucked or intend to spend time in the sling. If you use your dick in a mouth or a hole, head to a sink or the showers to rinse it off after, particularly if youâve gotten covered with lube or other substances. If youâve got sour breath or have been sucking a lot of dick, use the mouthwash that some baths provide, or bring your own mints or breath-freshening strips. Sometimes the front desk will sell them, too. Your partners will thank you for the thoughtfulness. Rule #8: Obey the House Rules Most bathhouses have regulations to which they ask members to adhere. Some donât allow chewing gum, for example (itâs difficult to clean), and some might ask you to sign in before using a hot tub or swimming pool. Some places are pretty plain about the fact that they donât like people having sex in certain areas, like those in sight of a check-in window where outsiders might glimpse something. If there are no-smoking regulations, observe them. Donât bring your controlled substances into the bathhouse. If the establishment asks that you shower all oils from your body before entering the steam room or pool area, please do so, so that nobody slips and cracks open their head from your hubris. Donât pee in the pool, donât use the hallways as your personal litter receptacle. Donât bring in large glass bottles that can shatter and prove deadly to someone who cuts himself. Chances are that the rules are there for a reason. You are a guest of the establishment. They can, will, and should throw you out if you pose a danger to their operation, or to the safety of other patrons. And most of all, be nice to the guys working the desks and the mops. They see a lot of thankless patrons pass through the joint. Rule #9: Slow the Fuck Down and Enjoy Yourself, Already One of the things I noticed the other night, when I was sitting in my room with a good view of the hallway intersections, is that the guys werenât connecting with each other because they were caroming around like pinballs in a machine. They would bounce out of the steam room and scuttle down the hallway at top speed, peek into the dark room, then bounce off and trot to the movie room before rebounding and zooming to the steam room again. It didnât occur to any of the men beetling from one spot to another to slow down and take advantage of anything. They didnât linger in the steam room or dark rooms. They didnât watch the movies, or do anything more than stick their heads in these public play spots to see if anything was going on. When they were jogging down the hallways they didnât stop to look at any of the men who were sitting there with their doors open. They simply bounced from spot to spot to spot, over and over again in a fast circuit, hoping that theyâd see something going on. Well if everyoneâs doing thatâand after a while, everyone was, because the sight of several guys running around at top speed convinced everyone they were missing out on somethingâof course nothingâs going to go on. Everyoneâs too busy racing around like Keystone Kops for any sex to happen. And having a dozen or more Roadrunners zooming through every few seconds doesnât create an environment conducive for public group fucking. Walk slowly. Linger in the public areas to see what happens there. Step all the way into the dark rooms and wait a bit. Stop and look in open private room doors. Check people out. Chat pleasantly to people, even if every conversation doesnât lead directly to sex. Itâs a bathhouse. Not a speedway. And that's it. As always, if you have any questions or helpful observations about your own bathhouse experiences, feel free to share them in the comments below. More...
AlwaysOpen Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Great post Breeder- and timely with IML just a few days off. Hyatt or bathhouse- the same rules seem apllicable. I get so frustrated at huge events like IML with the stand and wait for Mr Perfect mindset. $200 a night for a bed-- you should be fucking in the damn thing as often as possible. No racing back and forth from the market to the lobby for me- my hole will be very conspicuosly available in my room for anyone interested
TheBreeder Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Posted May 27, 2011 AlwaysOpen, I had that problem with IML two years ago. I think too much choice paralyzes people, sometimes.
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