why are so many gays in germany into nazi stuff?

[PozFunBER]

On 3/3/2025 at 11:29 PM, sundevil5 said:

There was definitely a gay culture embedded in the Nazi movement. The “night of the long knives “ the SS killed or jailed most of the leaders of the Brown shirts who were rumored and proven to be gay. Herman Goering and other prominent Nazi’s reputed to be gay then took their lifestyle underground. Nazism and gay sex today are cosplay driven in that way. Skinhead/Nazism is not cosplay or fetish play. It’s extremism. IMO

It wasn’t Goering but Ernst Röhm, you are referring to. He was the leader of the SA (not SS). And though he was not super out, it was an open secret that he is gay / bi. He was frequently seen at „gay“ club „Eldorado“ in the late 20ies/ early 30ies , today a bio market in Motzstrasse in Berlin - many gays don’t even know this historic location and stand right in front of it during Gay Street Fair. 
But: the Nazis DID NOT appreciate what happened at Eldorado and due to inner-political power fights (Röhm was the one that made Hitler successful in first place) , SS agitated against Röhm and his consorts. 
It is a total falsification to say „There was definitely a gay culture embedded in the Nazi movement.“ Strong muscled statues of workers / soldiers had NOTHING to do with a gay fantasy, nor was any gay culture embedded in Fascism / Nazism other than power / dominance was praised and some people today want to believe that this is „Gay“. No, it’s not. 
While it is absolutely OK to have desires and fetishes, we should stick to facts, not rumors or fantasies. 
I once had sex with a Jewish guy who whispered in my ear „I always wanted to fuck a Nazi boy“ - while I understand it’s just a kink , it did hurt my feelings in that very moment. Again, all excusable , all just very human, but let’s be factual in a time when facts seem to blur in front of lies. 

Edited March 17 by PozFunBER

[SDCumPup]

On 3/17/2025 at 11:21 AM, PozFunBER said:

It wasn’t Goering but Ernst Röhm, you are referring to. He was the leader of the SA (not SS). And though he was not super out, it was an open secret that he is gay / bi. He was frequently seen at „gay“ club „Eldorado“ in the late 20ies/ early 30ies , today a bio market in Motzstrasse in Berlin - many gays don’t even know this historic location and stand right in front of it during Gay Street Fair. 
But: the Nazis DID NOT appreciate what happened at Eldorado and due to inner-political power fights (Röhm was the one that made Hitler successful in first place) , SS agitated against Röhm and his consorts. 
It is a total falsification to say „There was definitely a gay culture embedded in the Nazi movement.“ Strong muscled statues of workers / soldiers had NOTHING to do with a gay fantasy, nor was any gay culture embedded in Fascism / Nazism other than power / dominance was praised and some people today want to believe that this is „Gay“. No, it’s not. 
While it is absolutely OK to have desires and fetishes, we should stick to facts, not rumors or fantasies. 
I once had sex with a Jewish guy who whispered in my ear „I always wanted to fuck a Nazi boy“ - while I understand it’s just a kink , it did hurt my feelings in that very moment. Again, all excusable , all just very human, but let’s be factual in a time when facts seem to blur in front of lies. 

It was also interesting that Ernst Rohm was the only member of the Party who was a close enough friend to Hitler that he could get away with addressing him directly as either Adolf or Adi instead of as Mein Fuhrer. Not even Emil Maurice or Magda Goebbels could do that, and, aside from Eva Braun, they were arguably Hitler’s two closest friends next to Rohm and Dietrich Eckart.