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Cardinal Newman and priest Ambrose's gay relationship  

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  1. 1. Did Cadinal Newman and his fellow priest Ambrose have a gay partnership?

    • Yes, they sure did; gay people tend to form gay relationships, no matter which era they lived in!
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    • No, gay is a modern concept and friendships in those days where often close.
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    • Can't make up my mind
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    • Not sure, and we probably can never tell. Historical events are not facts but mere speculations of future generations.
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John Henry Newman was a famous English writer and priest who converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism in the 1890s and was made a saint by Pope Francis back in 2019. He was born 50 years before Oscar Wilde and 80 years ahead of the pioneering lesbian writer, Radclyffe Hall, who was one of the first female writers in English who wrote openly gay stories; and both of who, like Newman, converted to Catholicism. Newman wrote mostly on theological matters unlike the other two who predominantly wrote fiction.  

What is unusual about Newman's life is that he lived with another priest, Ambrose St, John, since his ordination as a catholic priest for the rest of the 32 years of his life. He called Ambrose, his "earthly light" and on his death wrote, "“I have ever thought no bereavement was equal to that of a husband’s or a wife’s, but I feel it difficult to believe that any can be greater, or anyone’s sorrow greater, than mine. Both men expressed a desire to be buried together. ”Newman who survived Ambrose, took extra care to make sure no one separated them after death, and had himself buried in decomposing soil. Interestingly the Church did exactly what Newman anticipated, and before him being declared a Saint in 2018 had his body exhumed so as to separate his body from Ambrose. Mercifully, the body had decomposed and the Church had to leave empty handed. 

Given the historical evidences, is it fair to say that John Henry Newman, now St. Newman, had a gay relationship/partnership with his fellow priest, Ambrose ?

 

[think before following links] https://www.npr.org/2010/09/17/129930850/was-cardinal-john-henry-newman-gay#:~:text=Provocative Letters,in 1875%2C Newman was devastated.

 

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