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This is just very sad. The UK has joined authoritarian countries of the Middle East and China etc. by this stupid policy. Western cultures is based on sex. How are you going to eliminate what is an intrinsic part of your cultural heritage and fabric? The Brits need to loosen up a bit! We should probably send a protest letter to the Prime Minister and even the King, maybe!

It doesn't strike you as Odd that the guy who is Out for 20 yrs and is one of the most successful gay porn star of our time, also, having a fabulous sex life: a guy who fucks at least twice a day on average¹, goes to sex shops/booths⁴, has a sexy bf and lives in NYC where he can find any twink or man he wants, suddenly goes crazy and starts sharing child porn on an anonymous twitter account. It is possible, I will grant you that — but how likely is it? Now, lets look at the other plausibility that Austin is actually innocent and these charges are all Trumped up to make him look like an evil monster. Let me explain why I think there is something suspicious in these charges against Austin. Austin has a history of ........ people making false allegations against him. LIST OF ALLEGATIONS 1. Caused a suicide attempt of a gay porn star: In 2020 he made a statement condemning a gay white porn-star who was encouraging the U.S. police to shoot black protestors. ¹Austin not only stood up for the rights of black people to protest and not be shot at by the police in America, he also economically destroyed the guy, Billy Santos, who eventually lost a lot of his corporate sponsorships. In retaliation the porn star in question did not apologize but claimed he had become suicidal because of Austin's actions and the husband of this guy even posted pictures to support his lie. Eventually it was found out that the guy had been lying. To me that really shows what kind of SICKOS exist in BIG Porno ( the porn industry which has started acting like BIG PHARMA) and the kind of false accusation that Austin Wolf seems to face. 2. Racist remarks against a black American : Another incident highlights how the powers that be seem to want to target Austin. After the Billy Santos when he encouraged voters to vote and someone commented, America is about Power and Exploitation, Austin snapped back, "then move", a reasonable comment in my opinion as many Americans who are fed up with Trump and his assault on American democracy have actually been moving out of the US. Austin did not realize that the guy who commented was black¹ and a story was generated that Austin was a racist and had asked a black person to move to Africa! What a misrepresentation of what had happened. Austin later explained he had replied back to the guy to move, because he didn't seem interested in participating in the democratic process of the U.S. and also, that he did not look at the guy's profile and thus didn't realize the guy was black. I have increasingly gotten a sense that a LOT of people don't like Austin - the white boy: gays on here think he is rude and arrogant, something he has admitted to. However the powers that be in the United States also don't like the white boy and I am wondering why? ... Is it because inspite of being a southerner from Texas, he has a thing for black people and also allegedly for black men. I can see why all of this would get Austin on to the F Bureau of Investigation's³ List of subversives. If we are to believe the first charge brought against him, the accuser called TT1(Target Telegram User 1, as he is called in the sealed complain)³ had met Austin Wolf after exchanging messages on Twitter. If Austin created this account for the specific purpose of exchanging/acquiring child porn and staying anonymous why would he have met this person that he chatted with on that account and blow his cover? Do u think after being a porn star for 20 years Austin would not have known that this guy would recognize him in NYC! Also this guy apparently was able to tell the FB of Investigation, Austin's physical description, "Vocation", and approximate address.- and this is apparently evidence against Austin. Anyone who watches porn or lives in NYC and has an interest in gay celebrities would be able to find out such information and I am sure this guy did as well! Also, its interesting there is no mention of what they did when they met. Did TT1 get fucked by Austin or did he give Austin more Child porn? Since there is no mention of any such exchange, one can say for sure that no such thing happened and that Austin and this guy hooked up and for some reason he now wants to get back at Austin. Why? If we are to believe the first set of charges or allegation, Austin suddenly went crazy between 24th to 28th March and started exchanging child porn from an an anonymous Twitter account. 1. is is possible that Austin a pornographer who deals with sexual material as a matter of work, and probably looks at hundreds of sexual images on a daily basis, never looked at these videos of pics he received from mr TT1. 2. Does the FB of Investigation³ know that given the advanced state of technology in our times, anybody can hack into anyone's account and plant stuff. Just as, if someone know your physical address and decides to leave a bomb or some kind of harassing thing at your place: if someone has your digital information like you twitter account info or even your online storage device info, they can plant digital files here to make u look bad. Is it possible that in the multitude of twink videos that Austin had and i have no doubt that he likes, someone decided to plant these child porn videos. Someone who has a beef with Austin- like someone from Big Porno who wants to teach Austin a lesson for taking their profits away from them by giving porn stars platforms like my OnlyFans and later 4MyFans etc? @partying.hard I have a question for you, as well as an observation to make. First, the question I want to, firstly, thank you for the courage you have to talk about your own life experiences. For someone who has been close to Austin and have observed him in parties and did feel comfortable to observe that he was rude; adding the perspective of you own life experiences: what kind of men do you think that Austin was attracted to? For e.g. Did he prefer big muscular men or thin twinks who looked almost underage? Secondly, What is truly comical is that your concern that Austin is going to become the bitch of a black Stud in prison, well, might be exactly what he needs, atleast according to a comment by a NYC Gay reddit commentator who says "I was talking with a friend about the recent Austin child pornography news and he shared with me something interesting. He said he would occasionally see Austin at “Blue” video store, which apparently has gloryholes. He further stated that he’d only see Austin giving BJs to Black guys through the gloryholes. I feel like Austin has weird twisted fetishes where 1) he’s a sicko into child porn and twinks, which seems to imply domination and 2) he sees Black men as mere sexual objects that he submits to but not that giving BJs is inherently submissive. His apparent online and public personas is white or Asian twinks but in the shadows of videos stores, he’s giving BJs to only Black guys." ⁴ ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹ [think before following links] https://www.out.com/sex/austin-wolf-body-count ² 2.1 [think before following links] https://gay.blog.br/en/news/billy-santoro-admits-that-his-suicide-attempt-was-a-scam-to-stifle-haters/ 2.2 [think before following links] https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/06/03/billy-santoro-gay-porn-onlyfans-justforfans-racist-black/ ³ DISCLAIMER: I am choosing not to mention a particular organization of the United States but most people reading this post would know who I am refering to. If you are still unsure, please feel free to message me. I know that there is a lot of digital mapping and monitoring of sites that are going on these days, and have been for a while and I do not wish this site or even me! to come under any watchdog's list! ⁴ [think before following links] https://www.reddit.com/r/nycgaybros/comments/1drhz2v/austin_wolf_tea_from_a_friend/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=whitespace&embed_host_url=[think before following links] https://breeding.zone/index.php

To be fair to @fuckholedc he has quoted reputable newspapers like the guardian in defense of his argument, and a semi-reputable website like Vox. I agree. We should stick to the topic - Austin and his conviction - here. The comments and questions raised by @fuckholedc about the US govt and police in the States, of which I was unaware, are very important and require a new thread. I had initially started this topic in the Porn section coz i never thought the case against Austin was a serious or believable case. I now feel I should have started the discussion in the LGTQ politics/general discussion forum because this is a question of sexual freedoms and the treatment of gay men and the possible dangers that come with the State deciding you need to be targeted. I just am not convinced of any of the charges against Austin. They are too brazen and circumstantial.

I don't fault you for feeling what you did or for stating it ( even though I wish you had been less biting in your words as being too blunt or harsh can be harmful to others. ) I was having a particularly hard time understanding the particular writer's @fuckholedc post as well and was actually wondering why that was the case, until I went and checked his profile today which gives me a bit of insight about it. His background states that he came Out while living in Europe as a young man and he has lived in Washington DC ever since. He is likely a non-native English speaker, and thus has a harder time expressing what he wishes in English. He tends to do so in the French, Dutch or Germany style and manner of expression. The result is a writing that seems slightly dense and sometimes difficult to understand. We are united here on this site for our love of barebacking sex and not the Queen's English, and thus should strive to be tolerant of all levels of English abilities 🙂. This incident just highlights what I have expressed in another post about allowing some so called foreign languages which are compatibility with English on this site.

I came across this post online. Kind of corroborates what you are saying.

You are incorrect, there. Alberta allows 14 yrs old to get on a learner's driver and 15 yr olds can do the same in the three Northern Territories.¹ The minor in this case acted like an adult. He wanted to have sex with Austin Wolf, presumably because Austin is the type of stud he fantasizes about or is willing to have sex with until he finds his ideal mate. If a 15 yr old can drive a car.. he can most likely decide if he wants to have sex or not. I am not for a second advocating that teenagers should have sex with older guy. I strongly believe that in an ideal society where gay are truly accepted and treated as regular and normal folk and gay marriage is universally accepted: gays would be almost exclusively be monogamous. However we do not live in the ideal society, at least yet, and the law and social guidelines need to take into account the way human being in that society actually are and live their lives. A poll here on BZ where about 1350 members have responded shows that the majority of them 27% had anal sex between the ages of 13 and 16 and the age category that came sex i.e. 20% where between the ages of 10 to 20.² I believe the courts needs to listen to how gay men actually live their lives rather than how they ought to perhaps in an ideal world. This young gentleman is not necessarily devious, at least I hope not, but he was callous and blind to the possible consequences of his actions. He must be held equally responsible for the mess he knew he was going to get the other two men into, if he went ahead with his fantasy. This young angel was not in any way coerced by the two adults, at least, as far as I can see from the details that have been released to the public. "Persuading someone to have sex" hardly sounds like a crime to me. Of course it depends on the age and mental faculties of the person in question. I mean there can be a guy who is an adult but not of a sound mind and sex with such an adult would be wrong. Often the courts will decide to charge a juvenile as an adult because of the crimes he committed. I think, the court does need to spend some more time investigation the young gentleman in question and take a look at his actions before it makes up its mind about Austin OR what really happened. I do think the authorities that should release more details of the case so that the public can make up their mind as to who is guilty here. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹[think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver's_licences_in_Canada ²

Yelling pedophille is not going to change the complexity of the case, nor is calling the guy arguing the case names like Idiot, Canadian eh, etc. scare me from stating what I think. What I have stated is not "nonsense" but a nuanced understanding of the Law. Pedpophiles are btw, people who have an interest in pre-puberty children¹. Young individuals hit puberty around 11 to 13 yrs of age and slowly start developing an interest and understanding of sex. Children who where earlier believed in the stork delivering babies story find the story hard to be true and begin their transition towards adulthood learning the about the human body and life. This transition is not necessarily smooth and neither is it universally similar. Some kids start earlier than others. Some kids are interested in the opposite gender and some to their own. Some are interested in their own race and some other races. Some find certain body types attractive while some find other types repulsive. There is great diversity in what the young person wants. The Law in its wisdom at some point decided an age of consent to try to facilitate this transition. I believe its intentions where noble and good when formulated but it ignores some of the ground reality of our times and perhaps of all times. What is strange about the U.S. is that it is the country which invented the modern pornography industry and yet has one of the highest age of consent in the developed world. . Many European and South American jurisdiction have much lower ages of consent, around 14 to 16 I believe. Before you form a judgement on Austin's behavior, I want to pose some questions to you: Do you think your neighbors would treat you well, if they got to know that you routinely have casual sex not just with one but sometimes with multiple men! Agh. I am sure your coworkers in your office will start avoiding you if they know you have had casual sex with stranger multiple times in the last month or year. Thus, before you start judging other peoples sexual behaviours and situations, first try to see how society views you and then try to give some thought to the yardsticks we use to judge others. Austin Wolf is an exemplary gay celebrity who made a lousy decision. However, he is not a rapist or pedophille or any such things. I will stick to the present charge against him ie of inducing a minor or rather actually having illicit sex with him. I have addressed my thoughts on his previous charges in another post. The judge owes it the community and the cause of justice to find out more about this little angel. How many people has he had sex with? how many people has he contacted over social media or texted for sex. How did this sexual encounter see the light of day. Did his parents report him to the police for having sex with an adult porn star? Because you have made personal, xenophobic and quite frankly, rather racialized observations about me- Canadian etc, that are unfair and uncalled for I am going to state something about your profile. You do have a headless shot? Is that really intentional? you don't have the balls (or butt, if you prefer) to show your face to the world on a barebacking site, but u want to throw arrows at Austin Wolf who has been an Out gay celebrity for almost 20 years for an alleged crime that honestly seems just too bizarre to be true. and for the record, my biggest question if on an app if you see a top stud whose profile says Canadian, are u going to pass him just because of his nationality? In a sauna when you are frolicking with guys, are u going to say No to a Top who is not from the U.S. ? A 15 yr old guy who apparently travelled interstate to have sex with a adult porn star and another adult, and who likely has been sexual with a lot of adults and young adults his age is not a child, but a misguided youth who does not care about the consequences of his actions. This young angel's behavior during this sinful and shameful mélange is again proof that he is not a child. Did these two grown men behave like devils and hold this innocent angel down and force their sexual desires on him OR did this guy willingly and wantonly have sex with these grown men because of his out of his own volition and to satisfy his own curiosity or pleasure or worse a habit that he has acquired and started to enjoy, the unfortunately illegal fantasy of having sex with handsome porn stars like Austin? It sounds to me that the latter case is true as at no point did this young angel or his parents contact the police and this illicit act only came to light when the police started investigating Austin. The two situations are radically different and I believe Austin should be judged based on what actually happened. People do sexually illicit things all the time, affairs with their best friend's wife, cheat on their wives or husbands with prostitutes or escorts, leave marriages inspite of being married for 30 years etc. These things are immoral but not illegal. It does seem that the law in the U.S. at the moment seems to suggest that Austin is the guilty party but don't forget there was a time in the not so distant past in the US, where sodomy ie sex between two men, even if adults, could land them in jail and the distant past where cheating on your wife i.e. adultery could land u in jail as well. The law must be fair to all parties. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] People with the disorder are often referred to as pedophiles (or paedophiles). - [think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Text Revision, 5th Edition. American Psychiatric Publishing. 2022. pp. 794–796. ISBN 978-0-89042-575-6.

Teenagers are already doing the worse nightmare of their parents, teachers, and other authorities: experimenting with sex. In my view, 90% of teenagers are interested in other teenagers and perhaps 5 to 10 percent are into older guys; That there are teenagers who are interested in older guys is proven by the number of posts on this site affirming the same. By teenagers I am referring to young adults who are post puberty and who have a natural interest in sex, some more than others. I am not advocating that teenagers start having sex with older people and 95% of teenagers would not be interested at all. However, 5% of people would be open to the idea, I believe, and perhaps 2 or 3% really interested, as well. Most states in the US allow 16 yrs old's to get a full driving license and many allow 14 to 15 yr old's to get limited licenses. If you can drive a car as a teen then you can definitely consent to sex — if that is what you want to do. If a 14 or 15 yr old with some kind of license driving a car gets into an accident are you going to say he is a minor and therefore cannot be held responsible for his actions? Some situations do require us to ignore the fact that the individual is a minor and look at his actions as an adult. Not all situations are the same, even if they appear to be so. When it comes to sex, there isn't a unanimous consensus on all issues. Was it just Austin's responsibility or does the 15 yr old in question share some responsibility as well? . Austin Wolf in an interview stated that he has been with over 7000 to 9000 people in the past 20 years¹. Did Mr. Wolf feel obligated to go along with this young man's request. Many men on gay apps are wankers and do not show up to meet someone. The fact that Mr. Wolf has consistently met men for sex, almost at the rate or twice a day for the past twenty years , shows how committed and loving he is. Perhaps as a sex performer, he just loves to give, and make people sexually happy. Could this young angel have heard of the reputation of Austin and taken advantage of it? I don't have all the details of the case, but from what I have read in the news report, there was another gentleman involved and Austin through the use of mobile technology (text or an app) enticed this guy to come to New York to have sex. He made the following statement to the judge: “In late 2023 or early 2024, I induced a 15-year-old to engage in a sex act, I don’t remember through text or [social media], but phones were definitely used. I know what I was doing was wrong”² Who is this other adult? If it was a text message, how did the two come into contact. I mean its not like Austin is a teacher and used his position to get young underage peoples number. It is actually more likely that the young angel contacted Austin rather than the other way around. May I ask, why did this young angel travel to another state to have sex with an Adult? Did he know that he would be breaking the law and put his sexual partner - the older guy- at substantial risk. Did he understand what he was fantasizing about and did, was a crime under the eyes of the law. I believe anyone who breaks the law willingly needs to face the consequences of it. If Austin is to been punished for breaking the law, so should this young angel— and be tried as a juvenile criminal. The counsel for Austin acknowledges that this is a complex case³ but I don't see him arguing that in front of the court. He seems to be a guy who does more of corporate cases and mentions some Industrial case that he is dealing with in his letter. Perhaps Austin would be better served if he sought a people's lawyer who has dealt with such real life and real people's issues. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.out.com/sex/austin-wolf-body-count ² [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/media/ex-porn-star-austin-wolf-to-plead-guilty-to-child-porn-charges/ ³ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.623918/gov.uscourts.nysd.623918.33.0.pdf [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.them.us/story/austin-wolf-justin-heath-smith-guilty-plea

It is really sad. I wonder if the pressure of being a gay celebrity got to Austin. Was he going through some stress like financial difficulties, lack of work, relationship problem etc.? If the minor was not coerced but a willing participant in this sinful act, I definitely think the courts should take account of it and not try to make a moral statement. Who contacted who? Did Austin Wolf meet this guy on an app. Did the guy contact Wolf? How many other adult men has this 15 yr old angel contacted; Is he really an innocent victim who was physically coerced into sexual activity by a larger grown up man like Austin, or is there more to the story? Is this young man really a Vestial Virgin that the court seems to assume he is. The court should try to investigate the Truth. Some younger individuals are very curious about sex. Hell, there are teens who are getting high on drugs by the time they are 15 or 14 yrs old. Is the court going to start sending them to jail? If this 15 yr old is not an innocent angel, I think maybe 6 months or even a year at best should be an appropriate sentencing, and Austin's time in jail should be taken into account. Casual sex is a complicated subject. Sometimes there are fault lines and sometimes bad connections. It is sad this turned out to be a really bad line that could kill you.

I know for a fact that trans people and trans women face the maximum violence in the United States as a group. Unfortunately, I am not quite informed of the the racial identity of the perpetrators or victims and am assuming that people of color are disproportionate victims. Are there any stats published by gay sources like the Human rights campaign which includes race? As far as single white men are concerned, I would not give up on the right-wing ones yet. A lot of their frustrations comes down to their deep inability to deal with the real world including finding and having sex. We would have fewer mass murderers if we as a society recognize Incel rage and make it easier for them to hook up!

I meant the question both factually as well as normatively: what would I do/what do I do usually etc. but also, what should I — ought to —do?

The couple in this video was harassed in Jackson Hole, WY, for just doing what a straight couple had done before them — showing affection for each other and letting society know that they are together — through a PDA - public display of affection. Where they right in doing so?

The prep looks like a Hispanic White¹ guy. A lot of white Hispanics do identify as white and they definitely think of anyone native to the Americas as a slave. I am unaware of his sexual orientation: News reports do not mention a family -gay or straight, so I am thinking he is "single". Single white male and right wing political orientation is a deadly combination and a good predictor of future violent behavior. ------------------------------------------------------------------ We just have a one sided version. We don't know what the neighbors did, even though we do have clues from the video where Jonathan is saying - someone threatening someone with a gun is grounds for deportation. My suspicion is he is referring to this neighbor who did come out with a gun, and threatened to kill him. Jonathan decided to take a pitchfork and walk around the street rehearsing his lines and in the video he does explain why he is doing what he is doing - so that you understand what it feels like to be threatened. If there where problems with the neighbors Jonathan would have moved out long ago. Everything around his home was fine until he came out as gay and decided to move a hispanic bf in. Very bad cocktail of racism and homophobia. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹[think before following links] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jonathan-joss-killing-suspect-speaks-out-b2765503.html

There are some very strange facts in the case. 1. The ksat article¹ reports that a lady drove Jonathan and his husband, Tristan to their former house, and was waiting in the car when the neighbor-killer pulled up and parked behind her. Jonathan and Tristan told her that they would be back in 5 minutes as they where just there to pick up their mail but when they saw the carcass of one their dog along with its leash placed in clear view they became emotionally distraught, according to Tristan's statement on FB. It does looks like the dogs carcass and leash was placed there by someone. The property has had multiple calls to the police. The fire happened in January and I doubt if for the past 4 months, no one saw it or got rid of it. Surely the fire department, the police, or subsequently arson investigators would not have missed such a sight. Also, Jonathan and Tristan would have visited the site their home many times after the Fire, and this was the first time they witnessed that horrible Auschwitz like artifact. Thus, it looks quite likely that someone put the dog there deliberately for Jonathan and Tristan to see when they came. Did someone know they where going to come there? Why did the neighbor-killer drive to the Spot. Since he lived close-by, why did he have to drive. Was he trying to rush to the spot to see Jonathan and Tristan's reaction to their Auschwitzified dog. Also, he clearly managed to put his rifle into his car and then took it with him before the confrontation with Johnathan and Tristan. All this clearly show Intent - a premeditated intent and plan to kill. No one leaves a rifle in the car in a regular neighborhood like the one Jonathan's Joss burnt down home was located in. 2. I looked at one of the FB posts² to the husband, Tristan. and it almost sounds like a veiled threat to me. Why did this individual have to write such an insensitive post. Surely law enforcement/ authorities could have showed up at the bereaved widow's door and passed this message instead of posting what looked like a public threat. Jessica Anne Martinez Jonathan Joss opSdsteornuau6l40  l5t09gm54102t1h8 :3aeft5a2M9iJ1Pc 99c71an · Hello Tristan Kern de Gonzales, I messaged you privately here and on your personal page. The coroner has been attempting to reach you for the last week to claim Johnathan’s body. The deadline is this Wednesday. Please read your private messages to find my phone number and call/text me with an answer on your intent to claim the body. If not, we will take care of it. 3. A few days before his murder Jonathan had attended a reunion of the cast/stars of King of the Hill. He was not invited even though he played the immensely popular John RedCorn but choose to go anyways, and did announce himself from among the general public and proudly declared the fact that he was a gay man. The horrible people of King of the Hill brought in security who escorted him out³. Isn't is just plain sad that such a successful show would treat one of its actors so cruelly. Where the Power that be of Hollywood and King of the Hill upset that Jonathan had spoilt the legacy of the character John Redcorn who in the show was a heterosexual womanizing stud by coming out as gay. Was this killing a result of trying to take care of him? ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹ ² [think before following links] https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19dXuCkewB/ ³ "As Joss moved away from the mic to go back to his seat, that's when security told him he had to leave and he exited the theater calmly and cooperatively," the onlooker says, adding that the panel got "back on track" after this.[think before following links] https://people.com/king-of-the-hill-jonathan-joss-escorted-out-of-atx-tv-festival-2-days-before-death-11746968