Inception

A lot of the tops on this site are dedicated homosexuals with a lot of experience. That's cool and all, but of little interest to all of us. It is definitely way hotter to lay a guy who doesn't get to fuck ass all the time - whether he is "str8" or even just a gay guy who is inexperienced. I would chase one of these guys over a "pro-top" anyday. The tubs are great for meeting inexperienced guys experimenting. They especially have no clue how many guys are willing to bend over and think you are something special when you do - especially when you are also masculine. I don't expect them to be totally pro, and I'm not gonna kick him out. I'll give him some tips as we go and make sure I rock his world.

Top 3 things that surprise inexperienced tops:

1) It goes in all the way! No woman has ever taken it this deep in her ass!

2) There's no shit?

3)What just happened? It just got tighter like you're squeezing or something? Did you do that?

perhaps it's just me, but

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I have nothing against being clean and douching. I do it. I like being eaten out and when guys who like to rim realize I am clean they go to town. I also keep my hole shaved cause most rimmers prefer that. I'm all about keeping the top happy. A happy top makes for a happy bottom.

But advice to not eat and just drink liquids, and that you should expect to be dehydrated just seems plain WRONG.

Now you are making shit up. You won't flush out any undigested food that wouldn't normally come out in the shit, like corn, which has a lining that when not chewed well can pass in the shit.

OK maybe it's stuff like corn. I don't know shit about biology. But was thinking about a chicken pesto pizza I had a couple weeks ago with lots of sundried tomatoes on it. They came out almost whole about 12 hours later when "deep cleaning".

Is this ad running in the US? The first time I saw it on TV I almost fell out of my chair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGKUFOjEAo

When guys have TV's in their rooms, they just seem to jerk off alone. When the TV's are in a porn room, guys might start jerking themselves but as soon as other guys see them hard they'll offer a bj.

I like to eat, so I fucking eat. I'm not up all night cranked on drugs getting fucked repeatedly, and I ain't getting fisted, so I don't need my entire fucking intestines empty. The average guy has about 6 inches and the average guy isn't TonyRedux or Thick or RawTop - these guys sound like machines while the average guy is so excited to be in an ass that you are lucky if they last 10 minutes. So I eat, my gut does it's job, I wash out what's moved along, and I'm good. Almost any of the times I have tried "deep cleaning" are the only times where I have had problems. Basically you're giving yourself a colonic, and if you do that too much it's gonna screw your system up. When what starts flushing out is undigested food it's just not good. Just get the shit out and everyone is happy.

Saunaslut posted a link to a good blog on another thread which bottoms should read.

interesting...what do u think would resemble the state of emotional readiness u feel u need to be loose, open n slutty? thanks btw

I guess I was more referring to the anon ass up type of guys willing to do almost anyone and everyone at the tubs. For anal I've got to be turned on by the guy - both his looks and personality. I am definitely slutty, though not all the sex I have is anal.

conversely, i've known a few "versabottoms" who make better tops than most "total tops"...and who top more often as well! i would include my boyish husband here. he's 4'11", 135 v-shaped pounds, was all-bottom when i met him, n with a shave n a haircut he looks like a buff 12-14yo. over our first few months together i noticed he has a huge collection of man-ass pix n vids, a total fetish for it, and had NEVER tried topping b4. so about 6 months into being with him, i watching him get worked up jerking to his ass-porn collection and then literally thru myself upon him, carried him to bed n put my ass in his face...all in less than 5 seconds, no time to get nervous. he took to it like a champ, n now he tops like a mini-me.

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You are so dreamy.

I hate to admit it, but I also jerk off almost exclusively to pics of asses and holes. I also can be talked into topping now and then. I love rimming, and if a guy's ass is very loose and I am hard I often want to get inside it. I worry about infecting someone so always rubber up and then inevitably lose my hardon, which made me think "i guess I'm all bottom". This made me nervous about trying to fuck the bottoms ass up at the tubs who all looked so inviting. After reading this site for the last few weeks I finally realized that a lot of these guys are taking it bare even though they've got condoms laid out for show. I have now had a couple very nice experiences bare inside bottoms at the tubs. One beautiful guy who I have lusted at for a few years looked a bit pensive when I came into his room and petted his ass - he probably thought "what the hell is this big bottom doing in here?" But he smiled as soon as I slipped in bare. I soon had him moaning and hitting his poppers like crazy. Bottoming and sucking cock, I usually keep my dick hidden in my towel, so when guys finally get to see/feel me fully erect they are often surprised. I still prefer to get fucked but really respect and love bottoms with very loose, open and slutty holes as this is something I know I am not prepared emotionally to be.

As a young lad I read a very good book titled I think Anal Pleasure and Health. I just looked on Amazon and the book with that title has a different cover but says it is the 4th edition so might be same book. I remember the main focus was a lot of info for people who suffer from hemmeroids , but also a lot of good advice about breathing and kegel excercises. The main thing I took away from the book was that using drugs too relax is dangerous in the long run. When I was young playing with dildos I didn't always follow the advice, getting too excited, and would hurt myself very badly and bleed like a motherfucker for days. But when I actually started having sex the advice all paid off well and I have never been badly injured fucking. But my bad experiences hurting myself on large toys makes me nervous about fisting. Though definitely there are some awesome guys who know how to use their fingers to make your hole feel amazing.

Oh Im the master of being an asshole on those sites. But Im never one first. even the ugliest guys get a 'thanks' in return if they compliment me. I find it really ironic that the gay world is very tilted toward bottoms and versatiles (bottoms in disguise) and then they treat a goodlookin top with a nice dick like a used tampon.

I think most of the attitude one gets online is because the other guy has the insecurities and he's taking it out on someone else.

Agree about people's insecurities. I know my insecurites get in my way of getting laid, though I always try to be polite. I just almost never initiate online conversations.

Like your face pic... I would think that guy is out of my league. And your dick pic makes me think I would never be able to satisfy him, at least not anally.

I'd say the same about TonyRedux.

I don't understand how the gay world is tilted towards bottoms? Maybe on here with all the talk about anon and cumdump bottoms who get multiple tops servicing them? That to me comes across as a lot of fantasy. In the real world I see tops getting to choose from a plethora of bottoms, and most bottoms go without. In the real world I also come across way more guys who just want oral servicing, and have no interest in anal. This maybe leads to a lot of huffy bottoms who are all in a snit because they just want their asses stuffed and creamed. While it is nice to get fucked, it is definitely much more important to make sure that the tops penis is pleasured in the fashion he desires. Before getting fucked Monday at the tubs I played with a married guy who just wanted a handjob because of his concerns about not catching anything to take home. A few guys turned him down, but I was happy to do this. He had a very nice cock and he was very demanding about how it was worked. I have met him many times before, and who knows: one day when he's ready to do more maybe he'll remember the guy who loved giving him handjobs and eating his load from his hands.

I am on 3 sites, and usually look at profiles but never hit on or message anyone. I either don't trust people's profiles, or they talk themselves up so much that I don't feel confident about messaging them.

I do way better at the tubs; I am more confident and usually can pull pretty hot guys. Both Mon and Tues nights met young goodlooking guys who after fucking me begged me to take their numbers so we could set up repeat sessions. One shot 3 times: 2 in my ass (but in a condom) and once in my mouth. The other ate me out like a champ and told me how he has always wanted to fist an older man, which unfortunately my ass is too tight for. He asked if even if I didn't want to do that, would I be OK letting him just eat me out and fuck my hole again? So sweet, innocent, and OBLIVIOUS to all the other bottoms. Just my type!

I doubt online I would have gotten anywhere with either.

In answer to the original question, I am on Kivexa (600mg abacavir & 300mg lamivudine) and Reyataz (400mg atazanavir sulfate) and have never had any side effects and my cholesterol remains normal. When I started I was on 300mg Reyataz with a low dose Ritonavir as a booster but in Vancouver they are trying with some patients to do away with using the Rotonavir. They did a TDM when they took it away and I seemed to have fine drug levels without it.

Before starting meds I found that I would get infections more frequently, especially since I work in construction and often get nick and cuts on my hands I found these usually got infected and I had to use a lot of hydrogen peroxide to clean them. I also was getting bad acne on my back before starting meds. I haven't had any of these problems since my viral load has become undetectable and my CD4's have started to climb. I was at about 400 when I started meds.

My biggest fear when starting meds was side-effects, especially the facial deformities. But the drugs I am on don't seem to cause these. I can't say 100% but since stopping the Ritonavir I would say my gut is not as big, but it's hard to say cause I've always been a chubby guy anyways.

My doctor did consider putting me on the drug mentioned above, Atripla, but I didn't want the hallucinations etc. I am happy with my regimen, and really my biggest concern would be not doing anything to jeopardize it. This is my biggest reason to not go all out all the time bbing cause I am afraid to become drug resistant.

Personally I can't stand drugs, so I avoid tweakers. But I don't call for them being banned on forums and online communities. Because that's just a way of avoiding to deal with reality. It changes nothing about the fact that people will take mind-altering substances anyway.

On this point, PNP hard drug users - it's actually good when they are online posting their preferences because then I can avoid them, not just online but also if I happen across them in person. This past weekend SteamWorks bath house in Vancouver held the first cumunion party here. They tried to keep it quiet outside of the bb community but word got out. On BBRT's party listing over 100 guys posted that they would attend. Most of the $$whores, crystal queens, and slam pigs were on the list. I stayed away, as did many other people I know. Hey, we've got three other baths in the city, I don't need to be at a place that openly allows illegal activities. Eventually I see them getting raided, and I don't want to be there when that happens.

when i c that the last guy i was seeing puts up a quick connect add , i feel so sad and empty...

Who know's his reasons, but he's not into you, just put him on ignore so you don't see what he's up to, and move on yourself.

Quiet night at baths in burbs. One guy sucked me in steam room and fingered my ass. Guy I've played with before came in and took a turn, he got to his full hardness, which he doesn't always, about 10 inches and I deep throated him. He didn't realize I could take so much and was quite excited, but he was a bit drunk. Later in steam room a slim middle aged guy who had been speaking to an older daddy bear I know came into the steam room and got to work on my cock. Daddy bear always tries to pimp me cause he's a real voyeur, though sometimes if I'm sucking in the steam room he will finger me and not just watch. Drunk guy came back into steam room and forced his meat back into my throat while I was getting blown. I played with the ass of the guy sucking me and drunk guy got behind him and I rubbed his cock on the hole of the guy sucking me, but it was too big for him. Drunk guy was doing a lot of poppers and almost passed out in the heat of the steam. Got him outta there to rest.

Went to my room and guy from steam room showed up and started sucking me again. I had him get into 69 position so I could eat his hole cause this would make me very hard. His hole was shaved and tight. I started fingering it and stretching it with my thumbs. He liked this a lot and stood up and then sat down on me with just his spit for lube. It felt very nice to be inside a slim smooth older man. I got him into doggy position and plowed him nice and open, he was loving it but as he got more open I could smell that he was not cleaned out well and had to stop.

A little Mexican guy whom I have seen before came in. He is mostly bottom but always tells me how much he likes my ass. He reeked of pot. Saw him in the steam room and we started trading blowjobs. I didn't realize how big a cock he had, about 8 inches. Again he only got really hard when he was sucking me. He asked if I prefered sucking or being sucked, and I said both were good but that I also liked getting fucked. It was getting too hot, so he asked if I had a room, which I did. In the showers cooling off I noticed his big hazmat tatoo on his shoulder. I went to my room and waited ass up. He came in and started spanking me a bit, then as I lubed up he tried to stretch a condom over his cock but this made it get softer. I whispered to him, "You know, I'm poz." This sort of freaked him and he left, he used the excuse that he had to get fresh poppers. He avoided me later, and then remembered over hearing him about a year ago telling someone that he got his tattoo before he knew what people thought it meant. Oh well.

An hour or so later a tall, well built Asian guy came in, somewhere between 45 and 50 I'd say. Gave him a few looks in the hall and then waited in my room ass up. He came by a couple times to check me out before coming in. He wanted head. He also wanted me to be flying on poppers and kept putting them to my nose. He asked if I would eat his load and when I said yes he got very excited and came. He smiled really big and thanked me profusely. I went into the steam room and after a bit he showed up next to me with a big smile and said, "You know I don't think I am ready to go home." I got down between his legs and started lapping on his balls which he loved and this got him hard again quickly. He wanted to go back to my room. Right away he started feeding me poppers, and then had me eat out his hole. He was just riding my face. He got really excited and shot another big load. I licked it off his cockhead and out of his hand. This made him really happy to watch, but he apologised for coming so quickly.

Daddy bear was watching the late news, drunk guy was sleeping in the dark room, Mexican was sleeping in a lounge chair, so I figured time to head home.

Biggest bummer was I just dropped my bottle of poppers on the kitchen tile and it shattered all over. Whole place smells like poppers right now.

Erm, are you for real?

If you're neg and you want to remain neg, then you shouldn't be doing bareback. The hiv tests only show your status 3 months ago (usual antibody test), or 28 days ago (P24 antigen test)... there is no way of testing if someone has contracted HIV in the last 24 hours... its impossible.

Yes I am for real, and I guess really stupid. The baths here have Instant HIV testing nights. I've been poz nearly 10 years so haven't bothered, but i think there are lots of neg guys who figure that if they do this instant test at the baths they can then just hook up with the other guys who used this to test neg.

Perpetually single here. No matter how nice a guy you are, and how much guys wanna lay you, they just don't see themselves dating a bath house slut.

i'm all about the fuck itself, so we're talking about athletically maxing-out the power of my cock, muscles and sensation-greed as the foundation. some guys who want more abuse from my hands or from implements may be accommodated case-by-case, but everyone taking my fuck should expect to get anally reamed and churned out by my big fat dick to an extraordinary degree.

OK I wouldn't classify that as violent. And as much as you might be motivated by greed, any bottom taking that is greedier than you are if they are so selfishly chasing pleasure that they are willing to wreck their hole. I don't get fisted since I've already had times where I've just been plowed so hard that the next couple days my hole kept me running to the can all day or desperately trying to find a john before I shit my pants. When I was younger a couple times I did shit my pants the day after a good fuck cause I wasn't able to keep clenched. Maybe that's just me. I take things a bit too far sometimes.

ok WARNING: don't read the rest if you are turned off by a bit more extreme body fluid stuff.

Like last night, this guy was face fucking me so hard into my throat I started to puke a bit, which is unusual for me, but maybe just the position and where he was hitting. After our first go I coughed up a bit of blood. Thinking about it now I probably should have stopped; but he hadn't come and I didn't want to wimp out and let him think he'd been the guy to push me too far. So I went and got some poppers so I could take more without stopping. It pissed me a bit since he wasn't even very long, just the way he held my jaw open so he could fuck into the back of my throat.

My ass bleeding is another matter since that can take so long to heal.

anyway, since my own expression of these sentiments is made more difficult by RT's site-settings, i had to wonder who exactly provoked the original code-tweaking...besides what i just described, one could infer that people of a traditional religious bent would also be a problem on this site (for various n very obvious reasons), or even someone like myself who uses provocative language.

I think there are people who are messed up and want to kill all humanity, or cause the complete choas to society that a widespread drug resistant strain could cause. Imagine if Europe and North America got wiped out like Africa - the economic collapse of 2008 would be nothing in comparison. It sounds crazy, but no one sane ever imagined 9/11 either.

I do see this as different from someone who is into violent sex - I'm guessing that you want to see the guy live to take it again? Though there are scary guys who might not... Dalmer as an example.

Anyways, checked your profile... cute boyish face with big ass here... which is easy to find on squirt... just how violent are you talking?

Being fucked by two tops who are totally into one another is the best. When they are making out and have their hands all over one another while you service them, you realize your hot wet holes are just the means for these two men to make love to each other. That's very hot.

I have to agree. It's like watching a real live porno that you help direct by keeping the studs horny. One of my hottest experiences ever was about 6 years ago in the steam room at a bath house in Seattle. Two huge young football build guys were making out and I was between them. They almost totally ignored me except that when one was in me, after a bit the other would try to shove him out of the way so that he could get in. But they just kept making out and working each others nips until they got too hot from the steam.

You’ll need either a gaydar or BBRT profile completed with pics, and of course, no bottom only guys – sorry lads!)*

WAIT a minute... this means YOU are versatile??? Suddenly I am much more interested in the blog.

So ummm like any plans to travel to say I dunno, Vancouver, Canada?

Hmmm...I guess I gotta go back on BBRT.

On a slightly different note, I’m working on doing a posting on the legality of non-disclosure of HIV status prior to an encounter.* It would appear that there’s quite a lot of ignorance about what the law requires of us HIV+ people, and the devastating consequences of not doing so.* There are also some major changes underway across the pond in Canada around this very issue.* I think it will be an interesting subject to look into further, and one that certainly needs addressing.

Are you talking about the court case where it was found that because an undetectable bottom had a low chance of infecting he got off for not disclosing? The guy who brought charges didn't get infected I think. I know I read about in Xtra West (Vancouver`s gay newspaper), but I can't remember all the details.

but at night when i am truly alive, seeking out fucker or fuckee, i render unto priapus. for that, immediate, unimpeded access to the pleasures in my pants is not only appropriate, it's necessary.

Now that is poetry!

I don't cruise outside here much as the cops started pulling guys over as they drove away from the park. The cop was acting like they were looking for drug dealers... a bunch of new wharehouses had gone up beside the park and some of them had staff all night so maybe that's what people in working there thought was going down with guys driving in and out of the park and driving arround it. Maybe they thought guys were dealing drugs. NOPE!

Anyways, I would wear a ball cap, dark coloured t-shirt and sweat pants, commando.

Fuck just remembered July about 4 or 5 years ago was in shorts cause it was so warm and the mosquitos were really bad. After 20 minutes outside I had about 20 mosquito bites on my legs and ass. It was BAD!

I want to get fucked. If a guy asks I will tell him my status. At baths guys should assume a bottom, especially a pretty experienced one - aka a slut - is poz. So if he wants to fuck and puts on a condom, I am not gonna stop him cause that is his right. I really like sucking cock and am told over and over that I am good at it. I find guys who I have blown for a bit before they fuck me want to finish in my mouth - especially if they have put a condom on to fuck because they aren't getting as much sensation as they were when they were bare in my mouth and throat. Some guys just like to see you eating their load.

With guys who shot on my face I was leaving it there to kind of show off as I went to the showers. Yesterday I tried something different with this young straight/bi bodybuilder. He got soft in the condom so went back to my mouth. He asked where I wanted the load and I said it was up to him. He shot mostly on my face and then I sucked his last few shots out. Then I looked up at him while he was panting, catching his breath and wiped off the cum on my face with my hand and them licked it off my hand and ate it - all the while looking right into his eyes. He juist said, "I definitely chose the right room to come into."

This sounds like the kind of easy going bath house I prefer. Very hot.

Why'd you post this anyway? It sounds like the poppers made you paranoid, not this site!

Ya I have anger issues. But I think it helps me get along pretty good with the bi/straight rough trade types I like - guys who want a macho cock slut.

But with this queen at the tubs last night, I didn't get violent, I just told him that I thought it was shitty that he was trying to hurt me with his fingernails. I realized that it was maybe more in my head due to stuff I'd been reading on here. Though I would definitely say he wanted a hole he could abuse - but that's not what I find pleasurable. My violent thoughts were not so much due to what he was doing, but more my thinking about stories of people stealthing or worse - like wanting to create a drug resistant strain.

Why did I post this? It's not meant as a criticism of the site. I figured people are open here to talking about a lot of stuff so maybe they'de be open to talking about how some of this stuff makes me feel/ act. I mean besides when I'm horny jerking off to the stories; but also later after I've come and I think "Wow that was so sick I can't believe it made me come so hard."