hole2use Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Legal sie is not bullshit. How does the top know you won't change your mind and get him in jail? How do we know anyone who bottoms isn't going to decide after the fact that they wished they had not...take HIV completely out of the equation. Then call the police and say they were "raped". Sorry...I just think it's a tired argument. That's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericuser Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Oh.. an lastly of course you have the people who just flat out lie, either cuz they're scared or are sociopaths, but like to think those are few and far, but you just have to peruse some of the other topics in this forum to know they're out there. I think that you are GREATLY underestimating the number of people who lie, fabricate or mask their status; not so much on this forum but definitely on hookup sites and apps (both bareback focused and mainstream sites/apps). I would NOT go so far as to label these people as sociopaths (I'm sure some are) and I would argue that the reasons for being dishonest cover the spectrum of justifications to themselves for their own dishonesty. While I am HIV+, I always laugh at the ignorance of people who believe that random hookups with someone who CLAIMS to be undetectable is low-risk. I guess these people must believe that "No one would lie on the Internet" because they're trusting someone to be honest who you don't know, whose medical history you are unaware of and who may or may not be currently on medication. Let's be honest, everyone knows that "Undetectable" is what countless guys who are HIV+ and everyone who is HIV- but barebacks WANTS to hear. - Many HIV+ guys are quite thorough in making sure that a potential sexual partner who is also HIV+ is undetectable because they find it important to avoid contracting another strain of HIV. - And guys who are HIV- have read a few of the many news reports on the various studies that show HIV virus is harder to spread if the virus is undetectable (note there are also studies that contradict this notion). Therefore it is just easier for many people to claim they are undetectable in order to have the largest possible number of potential sexual choices. By the way, NONE of the studies that have shown that it is difficult for an undetectable viral load from an HIV+ man to transmit the virus to a HIV- man; NONE of them take into account the inclusion of narcotics (chems, pnp, parTying) and the impact that such elements have on the immune systems of both the HIV+ and HIV- individuals. What I am trying to say is that if one is seeking bareback sex online they should either have the courage to be honest with themselves that they are essentially bugchasing (even if they don't have a poz fetish or consider the possibility of becoming HIV+; the more you bareback the more likely you are to be infected). If they cannot reach this realization, then like a child who can't swim and needs swimmies to stay afloat; put on your swimmies in the form of a condom going on your cock or the cock fucking your ass because if you're worried about contracting HIV you really shouldn't be barebacking because you're obviously not grown up enough to be honest with yourself to understand the risk vs the reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungLatinDom Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Some guys think that "undetectable" means "I don't look like I have AIDS". I fuck this guy and he says, yes, I am undetect. Since when? Well, since the beginning. What do you mean? Can you tell by looking me I am poz? No. So yes, I am undetectable. Mega facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hole2use Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Some guys think that "undetectable" means "I don't look like I have AIDS".I fuck this guy and he says' date=' yes, I am undetect. Since when? Well, since the beginning. What do you mean? Can you tell by looking me I am poz? No. So yes, I am undetectable. Mega facepalm[/quote'] Good point and I agree with you on both posts. My problem with the bugchasers and associated websites is the exponential amount of misinformation. And it seems as though very few are willing to speak up and get the facts correct. I suppose it's easier to poz a misinformed bottom though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericuser Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Some guys think that "undetectable" means "I don't look like I have AIDS".I fuck this guy and he says, yes, I am undetect. Since when? Well, since the beginning. What do you mean? Can you tell by looking me I am poz? No. So yes, I am undetectable. Mega facepalm Exactly HungLatinDom. People who play the ignorance card shouldn't be able to take a cock in their hole; right? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericuser Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Good point and I agree with you on both posts. My problem with the bugchasers and associated websites is the exponential amount of misinformation. And it seems as though very few are willing to speak up and get the facts correct. I suppose it's easier to poz a misinformed bottom though. Sure but it is the misinformed bottom who is more likely to go after a guy (or just choose one bb hookup it didn't end well with) and use the law to go after the infected guy because it is obviously the already infected guy who deserves to have his life changed and labeled as a spreader of HIV because the newly infected guy plays the ignorant card + the law card. It doesn't matter if the already infected guy is not responsible for infecting him because once an arrest is made and the arrest is reported by the media, your name and photo become always linked via Google as a guy who intentionally spreads HIV. I mention this because I recently read the story of a hot guy in Minnesota (I think) who had the above scenario happen to him and while the charges were dropped if you Google his name you would never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire_Cub Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 On BBRT as CheshireCub, and i'm still looking for my first load as i'm an anal virgin, HIV -ve and give blood, but lots of guys won't message etc as they say POZ only, so how am I to become one of The Brotherhood D'oh !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barebottombearut Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 That's why mine usually says "don't know" or "i don't care" on bbrt. I've been a bottom barebacker for nearly 20 years, I've taken all kinds of loads. I'm still testing negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0882 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm on bbrt and my last HIV test was in late August, and it was negative. Anyway my profile reads that I'm versatile, but I normally end up just topping. I love fucking poz bottoms or chasers raw. Lately, I been thinking about taking undetectable loads in my tight ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JizzDumpWI Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 If you don't want to convert, and if approved in your country, get on PrEP. Hunglatindom made a good point about some defining undetectable as "i don't look like I have AIDS" rather than blood levels. But if your top truly is undetectable, there is a much lower chance of passing the bug. So not so fantastic for a bottom to get fucked by poz guys and remain neg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousone Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'm on BBRT and I'm a neg bottom. Get tested every three months...My last test was last week and negative. As Rawtop mentioned my way of practicing "safe sex" is going exclusively for tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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