Piercing Questions

[Rayne]

So, I've been contemplating the idea of getting a PA done, but I have unanswered questions. I'd ask a local piercer, but since I'm at a loss for references for piercers at the moment, I figured I'd ask here since there are some pierced guys on the forum. My main questions are:

- How long should you leave the piercing in before attempting to remove it? Since I ride a motorbike, IF the skin remains sensitive/etc. for a while, I might be faced with the decision of riding in pain, or removing it. I will likely get a ride to the shop, but after that I'm on my own for transport.

- I plan on getting the piercing stretched to an 8g at the shop, but I would likely work my way up to a 2 or so (just speculating). How much does the weight of the piercing stretch out the hole, as you go bigger? Also, how long should you wait before going up in size, etc.? This is one I've not found answered on the internet; at least, not in direct relation to the PA piercings.

- I know you should wait a week or so before engaging in sex (with condoms.... sad shit), but what's the wait period for bareback? I would likely wait until I'm at a 6 before fucking anyone with the piercing, but I'd have no problem removing it for the sake of sex until then. Also, is there a "waiting period" that is recommended for a recently stretched piercing? I haven't seen anything, but you never know until you ask.

- How long should I leave a new piercing in before I remove it for extended periods of time? I know you should leave them in to let the body get used to it, but at some point I know it doesn't do any harm to leave them out for a couple days. I don't plan on leaving mine in 24/7, but I don't plan on only wearing it during sex either. Basically, when is it "safe" to start deciding on when I want to wear it, and when I don't? I'd hate to have it start closing up, or reject the piercing, early on because I left it out for too long.

- What would you recommend for cleaning/healing solutions? I know the whole sterile urine thing, and I've seen a couple different ideas for cleaning/healing aid, but I figured I'd see if anyone here has something they personally recommend.

- Any care tips you have for any/all piercings? I will consult a piercer to see if it is relevant/appropriate to the PA, of course, but just crowd sourcing information.

These are basic questions, but probably not ones that most people would really ask early on; I didn't find any evidence of answers in my internet searches over the past year or so. I've checked various sources, from body mod forums to shop/piercer sites, and haven't found any direct answers to my questions, so I thought I'd come here until I have a piercer I know I can trust. It's my dick, after all; I'm not going to have some random piercer do this without much knowledge or trust LOL. I'm just trying to make as informed a decision as possible before taking the plunge.

Also, one last important question! How long before it's safe to masturbate, and also before having an orgasm? I have a hard time avoiding masturbation for more than a day, as it is, and I'm able to make myself cum anally if needed... I would assume the orgasm part is a week or so, since that's when it's safe to fuck with a condom; however, since masturbation will exert more force on the skin than sex with a condom, I have a feeling that the wait period will be longer. I am circumcised, so that means no foreskin to create a barrier while fucking my fist. Some pointers from guys who've had experience with this piercing would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for the length, but I figured I'd get everything in one post so I didn't forget a question

Edited April 28, 2014 by rawTOP

[bearbandit]

A few answers:

Leave the PA in all the time, especially during the healing period. Tight fitting underwear (like a new Bike jock) will hold your dick upright, so little trouble with the bike there. European gauges are different: we just measure in millimetres. I started with The Gauntlet's standard "beginner" size which is about 1.8mm. I'd recommend three to six months before each stretching. How much the weight of the ring stretches the flesh depends really on the posiitioning of the PA, which in turn is governed by the pattern of veins in your dick. Mine is shallower than I would like, but was the only option. My late partner had a worse time as they nicked a vein and he spent that evening with an old t-shirt clutched to his crotch (and didn't take kindly to my question "does this mean an end to all those years of PMT?")

I, personally, wouldn't recommend a stretch of more than a couple of millimetres at a time. The sensation is slightly less sharp than the initial piercing, but the extra weight is immediately apparent. How long to wait to bareback? At a rough guess, until a week after you can have a real go for it wank without any blood appearing in your cum. And on the subject of cumming, I had a wank in the bath the day after I had my first ring put in. But then I had the "cushion" of a foreskin - you'll work out your own ways of wanking

Leaving it out: safest not to. If you don't want the weight of an entire ring, you can get a keep which is much lighter. I have a medical condition whereby I don't retain calcium and found that I was having to descale my PA every other week. Even after an overnight soaking in white vinegar to get rid of the calcium carbonate, I found it something of a struggle to get the ring back in. The final straw came when I was snowed in at friend's house without my PA: within six days I couldn't get even a 2mm ring in. Re-stretching is definitely on my list of things to do: at present I can just about get a darning needle through the PA hole.

Regular bathing is enough for cleaning: piss (which is sterile to the pisser) acts as an antiseptic, though that first piss hurts. After I had mine done we went to the Lone Star and I waited for a loud record came on, because I know my reaction to sudden pain is to get vocal. After that, the pain is kinda fun. When bathing, be sure to rotate the ring as far as it'll go in each direction. It's easier to keep your first ring in permanently as it doesn't weigh much, and save the keeps for later, after a stretching (even then I'd be inclined to keep the ring in for a week or so, treating it as a new piercing before trying to swap it for a keep.

Hope this helps...

[scotsfan71]

Once I got my P.A., I waited an entire week to jerk off. But I did it mostly to make sure everything still worked. I'm cut, and I just took my time, but my orgasm was wild. My biggest problem was leaking blood for a day afterwards and the sensitivity, but your urine stream should take care of that.. But I waited nearly a year and a half to gauge down (or up depending on your meaning). And when I did gauge down, it took awhile, because I did it on my own, and had to stretch my hole. It was slow going. I made sure I had some lube and some good porn ready.

I never take my P.A. out. When guys ask if it comes out, I usually say something witty like, "do your eyes come out?" I'm telling them that it's that much a part of me and that's sort of a silly question.

Enjoy.

[Rayne]

Damn... you guys gave me the kind of response I was hoping for... without much effort. Thank you, both! I think that pretty much answers everything, but I'm still open to other opinions/answers that others may have.

I guess it looks like I should only go for it if I'm going to keep it in. I just don't know if I would want it in all the time, and I think that is what has been holding me up for so long. It would be a nice addition for sex, but I would prefer treating it like any other accessory. Definitely something to think about even more. Another reason I bring it up is because I want to bring it up to my fuck buddy, who might be taking the step from fuck bud to submissive (not significant, but a fun fact), and I would like to be able to talk with him about the pros/cons about it; we help each other figure things out at times. I'll have some information to bounce around with him now, and he'll also know how long he might be without my cock if I were to get pierced lol.

Does anybody have any ideas on what I could do, instead of the PA, that is "safe" to remove at will? I haven't come up with an answer, but maybe someone has heard of some crazy shit from China's underground sex cult witch doctor? I figure it's worth a shot asking. I'm thinking I might go for the PA over time, just probably not as soon as I was originally thinking... I need to fuck more before I abstain again haha. Thanks again for your answers, bear and scots!

[XTF2020]

I am also a biker and have had a PA for 10 years or more. Having it done is fine - very short moment of pain and a couple of days of bleeding for me. Healed very quickly and was told they always do because of the sterile piss, as mentioned above.

Wank or have sex as soon as you feel you must. Funny story on this: I was so horned by the guy who pierced mine (he had really sexy inked sleeves and was really hot) that I got an erection that would not subside after he'd pierced me. his was making me bleed and he told me I'd have to sank to make it go away. I gladly did as he watched (I was wishing he would join in). So I had my first sank within minutes of being pierced!.

Biking is no problem at all right from the start - I rode my bike when I left the shop.

My PA stretched itself and I found I could soon fit larger things in there. I never really got on with rings and have always had bent bars (I find they are best if they have big balls on the ends otherwise they can disappear into your pisshole easily and that can get uncomfortable when fucking a guy).

I certainly don't wear none all the time - I wear it less often than I don't and have had no trouble ever putting it in again after a break - just persevere if it gets a bit tight. Once it's in there's no discomfort even if it hurt putting it in if the hole had shrunk.

If you don't wear it you have to be careful when you piss - it can come out both holes and easily goes down your trousers if you are not careful!

Go for it and have fun with it. If you don't like it you can always take it out. If the hole is stretched it's unlikely to heal over but I have never had a guy mention that he'd noticed the hole if I wasn't wearing it.

[Guest pozbtm1967]

Anyone with experience with a frenum? I'm really wanting one... I have a removable glans ring and love the feeling, but want something permanent (well semi-permanent). I know a bar at first, but would like to have a frenum that has the ability to become glans ring by lifting up and over the head of my cock.

[NastyRigPig]

I didn't wear mine for about a year (after 7 years) and it shrank. But it only took me a month to get back to a 0g 3/4" curved barbell. As you being with the piercing, my suggestion is to soak your cock in a mild sea salt solution of warm water.

[breedmeup]

I am also a biker and have had a PA for 10 years or more. Having it done is fine - very short moment of pain and a couple of days of bleeding for me. Healed very quickly and was told they always do because of the sterile piss, as mentioned above.

Wank or have sex as soon as you feel you must.

Biking is no problem at all right from the start - I rode my bike when I left the shop.

My PA stretched itself and I found I could soon fit larger things in there.

I found pretty much all the same as above. It quit bleeding in a few days but, I did bleed a lot for the first two days. I too didn't have to stretch mine. It stretched all the way to a 0g by itself within about a year.

[rawbootedfucker]

Thanks for asking the questions Rayne - and for the answers given.

I too have been seriously thinking about getting my cock done - I've yet to hear of any serious negatives...

[Leather69]

I have had mine for 18 years, now a 7mm captured ball. Getting it was fairly painless, no bleeding and I was horny as hell later than night.. just had to play with it next morning. I never take it out for sex. One key to it's healing is to drink PLENTY water, you will need that to dilate your urine which will also act at a healing agent.

Get one, it's a piercing that you will never regret.

[Rayne]

To save time and space, I won't quote everyone's responses lol. Thank you for all the tips! I'm sure I'm not going to be the only one who benefits from this information. I have a feeling rawbootedfucker might benefit from this info as well

Home made sea salt solution- check

Greg- I'll be sure an ugly guy does my piercing; don't need to bleed too much before risking a car accident on the bike! I need some left to spill on the road when I'm eventually hit by a car lol. Is it bad I make a joke of that? Moving on...

Seems like it's all a matter of exercising some common sense with stretching/etc. after getting it in. I've never had a piercing before, never even had a tattoo (only because of cost), so I figured I'd play it smart since my first piercing might be my cock. I like it too much to fuck it up with stupidity, even if it prevents me from rolling out of bed to take a shower every morning.

One more question I just thought of: Has anyone used, and/or recommend, a product called H2Ocean? When I was in secondary school, I knew plenty of people who swore by the stuff. It seems like a glorified, sterile salt water solution, but it would definitely be handy for when I'm not home for a couple days. I tend to visit mates for a night or two at a time, so something like this might(?) come in handy if I wanted some extra comfort? Just a thought, since I knew a few people who were obsessive with the stuff back then. Hey, I'm new to all this.

[XTF2020]

If you use any antiseptic product at all use most piercers recommend you use one containing benzalkonium chloride - it is mild on the skin and doesn't sting even on a new piercing. Salt water is fine though, and as stated above, make sure you pee plenty.

[Rayne]

I live in Phoenix, and it's approaching summer... If I don't drink enough water, a piercing is the least of my worries lol. I'll definitely make sure I keep my water intake up, though. I take in upwards of half a gallon on the average day, so unless I need an absurd amount each day (over a gallon), then I shouldn't get too bloated lol. Thanks for the emphasis, though, as most people wouldn't really pay too much attention to that major detail.

The real problem I'll have is avoiding beer when it's offered. I love my beer more than water. That will be a challenge if I ever face that decision.

[Guest JizzDumpWI]

Rayne, plan on at least a month before you start fucking. You want to be healed before fucking raw since there are other bugs that would not be healthy naturally in the anus.

My piercing was bloodless (or nearly so). After that quick "yikes", no pain at all. I didn't make it but a couple of hours before wanking my newly pierced dick. For the first year I always had it in. The downside is more dripping when I pee. And it took while not to spray piss.

[breedmeup]

Rayne, H2Ocean is what I was given by my piercer. Worked like a champ. I like you travel a bit and did so with in days. The spray worked out great.