hntnhole Posted Saturday at 09:32 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:32 PM ^ tongue firmly in a cheek ...... Quote
tobetrained Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM This is merely an attempt to calm a convo. It might be fruitless. This just to demonstrates how multiple things can be simultaneous true and contradictory. Here are the summarized data which support the NBC News analysis in the video. The analysis in the video helps to connect the dots (which I'm implying). Tennessee special election - Dec. 2nd, count as of Dec. 7th District results shown by 5 groups of counties, Davidson (Nashville), Montgomery (Clarksville), South Suburbs (Williamson), West Suburbs (Cheatham+Dickson), and Rural (rest of district). Davidson: 24% of the vote, D56pp margin, ->D19pp shift vs. 2024* Montgomery: 24%, R8, ->D12 South Suburbs: 15%, R23, ->D10 West Suburbs: 14%, R37, ->D8 Rural Counties: 23%, R50, ->D6 How to read: Davidson was 24% of the district-wide vote. In it, the Dem won by 56%-points (pp), 78% vs. 22%. This was a shift in favor of Democrats by 19% vs. 2024 when they won this portion of the county by 37pp, 67% vs. 30%... so the shift, ->D19pp, is the 2025 margin (56pp) less the 2024 margin (37pp). [think before following links] https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/steve-kornacki-how-democrats-missed-the-mother-of-all-upsets-in-tennessee-253608005609 Quote
Room4ustwo Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago I watched the NBC video and even though Kornacki thinks the Dems could have done even better with a different candidate, a 19 point swing towards them speaks for itself. I dont see much that is contradictory, only the truth that a large swath of the American public now has serious buyer's regret. I'm guessing Trump is not capable of reversing this, but admittedly 11 months is a long time. Quote
tobetrained Posted 53 minutes ago Report Posted 53 minutes ago OK. Let's try it this way. @Room4ustwo you're reply to rawfuckingonly's comment added two false statements in and of his comment itself. One, to dismiss him you added the MAGA/Trump part to your replay. In his comment, although clearly angry in tone, he did not make a pro-Trump/MAGA point. His comment was against socialism. And socialism is not the answer to Trump or MAGA. Two, to emphasize your point you added the false-narrative of the 2026 mid-terms. No election in any democracy is definitive let alone a mid-term election. And to the point in the NBC News video, Democrats would likely do better without the socialist rhetoric and policies. In his way, that was also rawfuckingonly's point, from a conservative perspective (my assumption on that). To your own "winter is coming" comment, politics and electoral outcomes are cyclical. There's no point in using such a statement when the very next election can throw eggs in your face. Also, it wasn't ->19%. Quote
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