Trainee Question: Knowing you're really ready

[PozToxVersPig]

In my other post, I talked about using the time my PA upsizing heals (4-6 weeks) to work on hole stretching - just generally cuz I want to - but also so I can potentially have more experiences as a FF bottom.  

I'll never be one of the dudes from a DickWadd fisting film who can get double fisted without much effort.  I'm 46, including 31 years of lots of bare sex (~10 times being fisted), and sometimes my hole feels more like someone who has barely had sex at all - no matter how hard it gets work, it recovers.  I like that I still have an intact hole, but I'd like to work on flexibility.

Anyway, I ordered the Topped Toys Grip:  sizes 80, 96, 106 - I think 80 is similar to what I have now.  96 and 106 are beyond what I've had in terms of a butt plug and I think 96 is as thick at the widest part as my largest dildo that I can only handle after some significant pre-work opening.

For fisting bottoms out there - where do you feel you need to be in terms of easy circumference you can take that gives you good confidence that you're ready to FF bottom without a huge amount of the top pre-stretching you and opening you up?  I still want to be opened by the top, but I don't want it to be a Herculean effort prior to the main event.  When you play with yourself, do you use a plug and if so what size?

I have seen quite a few vids lately in rotation where these 20/30-something year old guys have these massive, gaped holes, are getting double fisted, etc.  I recognize they are in the porn industry, but surely they did more than just take dick to get to that point.  I'm not saying I want that, but there's something that gets people to that point and I don't know what it is! 🙂

 

[Erik62]

35 minutes ago, PozToxVersPig said:

In my other post, I talked about using the time my PA upsizing heals (4-6 weeks) to work on hole stretching - just generally cuz I want to - but also so I can potentially have more experiences as a FF bottom.  

I'll never be one of the dudes from a DickWadd fisting film who can get double fisted without much effort.  I'm 46, including 31 years of lots of bare sex (~10 times being fisted), and sometimes my hole feels more like someone who has barely had sex at all - no matter how hard it gets work, it recovers.  I like that I still have an intact hole, but I'd like to work on flexibility.

Anyway, I ordered the Topped Toys Grip:  sizes 80, 96, 106 - I think 80 is similar to what I have now.  96 and 106 are beyond what I've had in terms of a butt plug and I think 96 is as thick at the widest part as my largest dildo that I can only handle after some significant pre-work opening.

For fisting bottoms out there - where do you feel you need to be in terms of easy circumference you can take that gives you good confidence that you're ready to FF bottom without a huge amount of the top pre-stretching you and opening you up?  I still want to be opened by the top, but I don't want it to be a Herculean effort prior to the main event.  When you play with yourself, do you use a plug and if so what size?

I have seen quite a few vids lately in rotation where these 20/30-something year old guys have these massive, gaped holes, are getting double fisted, etc.  I recognize they are in the porn industry, but surely they did more than just take dick to get to that point.  I'm not saying I want that, but there's something that gets people to that point and I don't know what it is! 🙂

 

🙄🙄 I really do hope you are not this "sensible" during sex 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣LOL. Whenever we get beginners asking for tips (🍆pardon the pun) about best practice to begin taking fists. Everyone says, take it easy, practice with dildoes BUT, as with any physical effort CORRECT BREATHING is usually a forgotten necessity. Good breathing practices are better than any time or toy that you may use. Any cock, small, large or XL+ size is no different when first taken. Breathing correctly is an automatic muscle relaxant & will be the prime factor when you start fucking & it will continue to be when you take that monster toy or the arm, right to the armpit. Some people never do stretch out to Monster toys or armpits but, it is a certainty that wherever they do get to, the muscle relaxation gained from CORRECT BREATHING will ensure their complete sexual pleasure. 🍆💦 💦  ♨️💪. 

NB: I never had that "ready" feeling. Taking size just seemed a natural progression. I could already accommodate a fair size cock & had never heard of FF when I met this guy, the most lovely man you could hope to ever meet & for a first time fist he was sublime (unfortunately suicide to AIDS took him far too early). We had been playing for an hour or so, I was in heaven, when he asked if I had thought about fisting. I said No & asked what needed to happen. His reply, "It's when I stick my fist up your cunt, just like it's up there now". I was addicted 🤪🤪🤪🤪

[PozToxVersPig]

@Erik62 I'm neither a beginner, nor have I not had giant things up my ass, including being fisted in to the double digit number of times! 🙂 I fuck myself with my current buttplug (and I mean in and out over and over) which is not small! 🙂

It seems to me, though, that like any other thing that involves muscle memory and ongoing practice, there might be something more than just breath, relax, etc.  Like any good sport, surely there's a playbook a coach would work from. 🙂

The breathing and mental clarity parts I've got! 🙂I do appreciate the response! 🙂

[Erik62]

1 hour ago, PozToxVersPig said:

@Erik62 I'm neither a beginner, nor have I not had giant things up my ass, including being fisted in to the double digit number of times! 🙂 I fuck myself with my current buttplug (and I mean in and out over and over) which is not small! 🙂

It seems to me, though, that like any other thing that involves muscle memory and ongoing practice, there might be something more than just breath, relax, etc.  Like any good sport, surely there's a playbook a coach would work from. 🙂

The breathing and mental clarity parts I've got! 🙂I do appreciate the response! 🙂

Sorry you misinterpreted my response. I was referring to the Topic as a general discussion of Trainees & the ways to prepare one self. I was in no way inferring that you, individually, were a beginner or were inexperienced in taking either cock, toys or fists. 

[MuscledHorse]

Slack hole porn bottom here and yes, ther is more than just taking penis that gets us to the levels you are seeing on film. A lot of near daily toy and plug play/training and frequent play with other guys goes on to get us to the gaped ruin you see in our scenes. Training with incremental toys, like the Topped Toys Gape Keepers and Grips are a great way to stretch. Just know that guys have different size hands and some collapse easily and some do not. Starting out you want a small to medium hand tio to get in you. It may take a couple stretching sessions to get the hand in you the first time but once you do, it's a whole new level of Pleasure. Your mental state is also important--you have to want to have the hand filling your butt. poppers help relax everything too (the nitrate based brown bottles NOT the spray stuff). You will love the experience when you get there.

 

Also, asspig is a great way to meet other FFisters 

Edited 55 minutes ago by MuscledHorse

[PozToxVersPig]

34 minutes ago, Erik62 said:

Sorry you misinterpreted my response. I was referring to the Topic as a general discussion of Trainees & the ways to prepare one self. I was in no way inferring that you, individually, were a beginner or were inexperienced in taking either cock, toys or fists. 

My misunderstanding.  You started talking about whether I was "this sensible during sex" and then began talking about "when we get beginners."  I thought you were connecting the two.  🙂 Apologies. 

I do agree correct breathing during FF - as well as in life, sports, anxious situations, etc. - is critical.  But I think there's other physical training that would help prepare FF bottoms.

@Erik62 - I'll keep notes of what I did and hopefully videos/pics of the outcomes.  🙂  One thing that was suggested was having an "FF Coach" - someone who could help you with the physical parts but you didn't necessarily have a sexual relationship with.  So I recruited an ex to come and push my limits with the butt plugs.  Not accept me wanting to stop when he feels I can go further!  When I set my mind to something, I get the job done 🙂

Also, I am sensible when I need to be and 100% not sensible when it comes to actually having sex...