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1 hour ago, tightpussyboy said:
no one is puyshing anyone. im free to use this forum just like you. for a site called the "breeding zone" no one should really be spositing "safe sex". This site is primarly about bug chasing and gift giving.
Umm, no. This site is for guys who are into barebacking, and that is not synonymous with bugchasing. The bugchasing/gifting posts are deliberately limited to the "backroom," which you have to register and log in to access.
No one here is advocating for "safe sex," if by that you mean condoms. Prep users can still be sleazy barebackers if they want to be.
I'm fine with poz fetish, it's a turnon for me too, but in no way does everyone who barebacks have to be into it.
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Just put yourself in your "safe" buddy's shoes and imagine: if a friend had known you were at risk of something and didn't tell you, how would you feel?
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For me going on Prep had the same effect. I took loads even before it, but once I was on it poz cock became irresistible. Being "neg4poz" is hot and I intend to keep doing that as long as Prep keeps working.
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On 8/1/2018 at 11:01 PM, tightpussyboy said:
do it without prep
Make your own decisions for yourself. Don't push others, especially young guys who are new to all this, into doing something irreversible just to get your own jollies.
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Forgive me playing "older and wiser," but 22 is too young to make an irreversible, life-changing choice like getting HIV. The human brain, especially when it comes to judgment and impulsiveness, is not fully developed until at least the mid-20s. You really don't want to jump into something because of your raging hormones that you might regret for the rest of your life
If you decide later that you really want to get pozzed, you have the rest of your life to do it. But once it's done it can't be undone.
Keep your options open for now. Go on Prep, explore your sexual freedom to the fullest, but don't pay an unnecessary price for it.
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051
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Count me among those who have definitely "put Prep to the test." Five years, countless loads of all statuses. I have every confidence in it.
So, yeah -- there have been 4 or 5 seroconversions in 6 years since Prep was approved, among hundreds of thousands of users and countless millions of bareback fucks. Those 4 or 5 guys simply added another med, quickly became undetectable, and are just fine.
In that same time period about 12 MILLION people became HIV+ worldwide -- 240,000 in the US alone -- WITHOUT Prep. Many of them were using condoms, or trying to. Where are the huge screaming headlines about condom failure?
Personally I'm more worried about getting in a car accident on my way to a hookup -- something which, unlike HIV today, can be fatal or seriously debilitating.
Take your Prep, get tested regularly for all STIs, and stop worrying.
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I travel a lot and have been to CumUnion in several cities. Atlanta was one of the better ones. So crowded it was impossible to find a private room free. (But no problem as I prefer to fuck and be fucked with an audience and there are several public slings.)
Fort Lauderdale was the worst... a standard bathhouse which doesn't have the same dark mystery as a sex club. Everyone was wearing a towels and it was uniformly an older and out-of-shape crowd. To each his own, but that's not my scene. I left almost immediately and went to 321 Slammer, much more to my liking
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On 7/20/2018 at 7:25 AM, Cutedelicategay said:
you seem to argue that the society should bear the burden of choices and thats where the logic fails. So far hundreds of thousands of people used condoms to prevent HIV.
People make choices all the time that have consequences for healthcare costs that are borne by society -- including dietary and exercise habits and, yes, sex. Human beings are not machines, and powerful natural drives like eating and sex are not easily governed rationally.
Yes, many people have successfully prevented HIV by using condoms. Many others have not, despite their best intentions. In the US, although we have known for almost 40 years that we "should" use condoms, until recently the number of new HIV cases remained stubbornly at about 40,000 a year. Because human nature is what it is, we had reached the limit of the effectiveness of condoms as a public health measure. Simply shouting the same message louder and louder isn't going to change that.
Prep is a revolutionary change, another prevention tool that is finally making some progress and could help break the back of the epidemic. In cities and states where Prep has been broadly introduced, HIV rates are dropping sharply -- while they continue to rise among populations that don't have access to Prep.
This isn't just about individuals and whether they should pay for their own choices. This is about effective public health measures to end a devastating and expensive communicable disease. That is everyone's business.
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Another thing: while the scare stories about resistant gonorrhea are exaggerated for now, there may come a time when it's a real threat. At that point, condoms really may become a necessity again (at least until they develop new antibiotics).
Once you've tasted bareback it's very hard to go back. So it might make sense for guys who are OK with condoms to stick with them, so they don't forget how to enjoy "safe" sex.
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20 hours ago, drscorpio said:
Some guys don't take PrEP to fuck bare. They want it for back up in case a rubber breaks.
I don't think it makes much sense for HIV prevention. PrEP works so well, the condom isn't really doing anything against HIV. But it still prevents other STIs, and some guys are paranoid about those, too.
Prep is better protection than condoms for HIV, and plenty of guys who religiously used condoms ended up poz anyway, so it makes sense even for condom users to add that extra layer. It's not superfluous.
As for other STIs: I don't think it's fair to use the world "paranoid." No, they're not going to kill you, but they are a huge pain in the ass. Since going bareback I started getting them 3-4 times a year. Each time involves missing work to go to the doctor, copays that add up, and shots that aren't necessarily much fun (the ones for syphilis hurt like hell, in particular). Plus, notifying partners can be an unpleasant task, and I am man enough to do so, as should we all.
I have no trouble understanding why someone would choose to use condoms for those reasons alone. Some guys don't mind them all that much. For me, they do reduce pleasure, (though I will agree to fuck a dude who insists on one, if he's hot enough). But not everyone is wired the same.
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On 7/5/2018 at 5:35 AM, Sunovabesh said:
So, when it came to it, a person as a free clinic kinda (from my position) made the proposition that if I slept with him, he'll give them immediate treatment. T
Not sure I'm reading this correctly -- was this person WORKING at the free clinic (if you made a typo "at" for "as") and offered to give you treatment for free in his capacity as a worker there? If so, that's a serious breach of ethics and this person needs to be reported to the management and, if he's a licensed professional, to the state medical board. Please do so so you prevent him from pulling this crap on anyone else.
I realize you might have meant metaphorically that he was "acting" as a free clinic , not working at a real one. In that case, he's just an asshole and others should be warned informally to steer clear of him.
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On 3/25/2018 at 6:55 PM, topdognyc said:
There's no evidence that the Seattle case was a true case of Prep failure, as opposed to a case of poor meds adherence. The former remains incredibly rare -- the latter, unfortunately, not.
They shouldn't have made a big public announcement and caused alarm without verifying that first.
See:
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What @Usccocksucker said. His post was a little technical, but in brief: there isn't some wave of Truvada-resistant HIV out there that's getting passed around from one person to another.
For one thing, Truvada resistance is very rare and likely to remain so. There are two drugs in Truvada which "backstop" each other, and it's very hard for a mutation to "get around" them both -- most often they end up being very weak due to the mutations and unlikely to spread.
For another, "resistant strains" are specific to the individual, based on what meds he/she might be taking that are inadequate to control the infection. These mutations do not necessarily get passed on in the same form to that person's partners, even if HIV is transmitted. As mentioned, in the absence of meds, the virus often reverts to "wild type" (i.e., garden variety HIV), which is extremely unlikely to defeat Prep.
It might seem like we're hearing more frequent cases of Prep failure (something like four to date, worldwide?). But it's not because the failure rare is increasing -- it's because so many more people are taking Prep. The success rate is still overwhelmingly good, particularly compared to condoms.
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8 hours ago, hungry_hole said:
i started my second period of PrEP and I was worrying about those 30 days of PrEP without sex. Most likely the pharmaceutical companies exaggerate the dosages to make more money, protected by the pretext of safety.
Don't buy into all the conspiracy theories about pharma companies. Yes, they're in it for as much money as they can make, but there are solid scientific reasons behind the conservative recommendations for how to take Prep (until more recent research came along that superseded them). It's not pharma companies who come up with those, and selling another 23 pills (or whatever) by exaggerating the recommendation would be insignificant to their bottom line.
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That is just beautiful. I wish @Ingulphus was still here (he hasn't logged in since 2015) because he's someone who I think could help guide me on my journey.
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13 hours ago, hungry_hole said:
The issue I have with PrEP is that one has to continue taking it for a month. I find it too long because when I'm on PrEP I'll be more tempted to take loads which means having to wait for another month, during which time it could happen again. If the wait were 7-10 days it would be less likely for that to happen.
With the more recent evidence about on-demand prep, many doctors now day two days after the last exposure is enough. Personally I'd feel comfortable with a compromise of about 7 days.
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On 7/1/2018 at 6:14 PM, bbcunthole said:
do many tops want to fuck castrated bttms . i know so many tops who want to castrate me, they want to get off as they actually destroy or removes my balls permanantly
Personally I'm not really turned on by fucking a nullo. Mind you, the idea of extreme body modification is hot to me just because of the radical, irreversible nature of it -- the guys who do it are very brave (ballsy, even!) I just like men with men parts, even bottoms.
I suspect relatively few tops are specifically attracted to bottoms with no balls and/or dick. If you're getting them removed for your own deep psychological need or self-image, fine, but be aware that it will probably drastically reduce your number of potential partners.
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4 hours ago, bareback-flipflop said:
"Nurse at the clinic was very keen to get me on PrEP asap," That's the point. In Hungary it is almost impossible to be on PreP
In most countries you can get generic prep online. Costs something like 50€ a month. You have to find a local doctor who will do the tests for you. See iwantprepnow.co.uk for info. It takes some effort but it's worth it.
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Good move! Prep has been a godsend for so many. Welcome to a wonderful new slutty world!
You still need to be aware of the other STDs and take what precautions you can to reduce your risk. Definitely get Hepatitis A and B vaccines. Ask about HPV vaccine -- they recommend it before age 26 but you can still get it if older and get at least partial protection. It's worth it even if you have to pay out of pocket... we're going to see an epidemic of mouth and rectal cancer in a few years.
There is no vaccine for Hep C, which is very serious. It's curable but at great expense. Best to avoid it. Still relatively few cases from "regular" sex but they are increasing. Group sex, fisting, anything involving blood, and especially IV drug use are risk factors.
Your prep care should include quarterly full STD screenings (insist on it... and make sure they swab your throat and hole... peeing in a cup only detects infections in your dick and blood draw is only for syphilis, not gonorrhea/chlamydia).
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-Try to piss after sex, to clean bacteria out of your urethra.
-Wash your hands and cock thoroughly after sex or between partners (but douching after bottoming does NOT help).
-Listerine helps kill gonorrhea germs in your throat (a common infection site -- often with no symptoms and you can spread it without knowing). Do a good deep thorough gargle for a full minute before sucking cock (to protect your top), and after.
Happy whoring!
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@Homo60 is spot on, @fetishlad. Starting prep is not a big step. It will likely be very freeing. Most people have few or no side effects, and these don't last long. If testing neg was a relief and not a disappointment, that should tell you that you don't want to get infected right now. THAT would be the truly big step, as it's irreversible.
Just enjoy being as slutty as you want without any permanent consequences (other than the other bugs -- mostly treatable).
Whatever you do, get your Hepatitis A and B vaccines, consider an HPV jab, and educate yourself about Hep C -- that's one that's really best avoided... there's a cure but it's incredibly expensive and insurance may deny it.
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58 minutes ago, Leatherman667 said:
I have not heard it either
Think of all the money being wasted on prep... $1200/month when you can get a nice little Chardonnay for $8! ?
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On 3/16/2018 at 9:05 PM, sse4me said:
Well, I'm still considering taking his loads. I'll have taken white wine enemas which, though they will have stripped my recal mucosa, will have also made my rectum and colon very acidic. I've read that the acidity of stomach fluids kill the virus and white wine has a similar pH. I know I'm taking a gamble, but aren't all of us who bareback, and some of us are gambling to remain neg and others to get converted. I can be persuaded either way.
Perhaps tomorrow he and I will hook up. I'll keep you posted.
White wine enemas protect you against HIV? Where on earth did you get that idea?
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It's really impossible to rank the level of risk for these theoretical scenarios. The best course of action for the negative top in question is to get on Prep. Then there's almost no chance (a fraction of a percent) of infection in any of these cases.
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4 hours ago, bbzh said:
Personally, I don't think HIV is the scariest STD out there. Hep C is. There is a cure for it but insurers are hesitant to pay for the treatment. I read quite a few posts on here about guys excited about going to bb parties now that they're on PrEP. They seem oblivious to the fact that they are at high risk for Hep C in a group setting.
That's a legitimate concern and should be addressed by educating people about the risks involved and how to mitigate them. But every time people raise the risk of other STDs as a reason to frown on the growing use of Prep, the implication is that they'd prefer to keep the terror of HIV hanging over people's heads so they behave themselves and don't catch other stuff. I don't buy that.
Anytime a potentially negative consequence of sex can be taken off the table, I'm in favor.
Should insurance pay for PrEP
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Well isn't that nice, Ayn Rand.
Society has an interest in helping prevent and treat communicable diseases because they don't just affect individuals, when they spread rampantly they affect the whole country. Before effective ARV treatments came along, there were entire African countries on the brink of collapse because productive adults in their prime were dropping like flies. Nobody told all those people it was their individual problem.