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I am happy that he overcame his meth addiction but I personally find it offensive when someone tries to go around peddling thier story to sell merchandise and tweets killmeth over and over like that is going to save some tweaker? It probably has quite the opposite effect. I am not a tweaker but I party now and then and when I see those tweats when I am high I just find them annoying and offensive. Kill is not a term I take a liking to in any state or situation.

I wonder if he did overcome it...

Not for nothing but the dude is a felon for unknown reasons and sketchy as fuck and if you read his twitter it makes you wonder what his deal is. He's running a fake charity and if this story was being written by any mainstream movie writer, you know that the character would be using the money from the fake charity Kill Meth t-shirt sales to buy more meth to smoke, snort or shoot into his body. Wouldn't surprise me if that's how the dude rolls.

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No worries... I like threads by thinking guys as this has been. Provides fodder to expand my thinking and I always enjoy that.

This continues to be a thought provoking discussion; I appreciate the knowledge and viewpoints that you and everyone who have posted in this thread.

As the conversation has evolved, I find myself focused on a few things:

(1) Something (not government mandated) is needed to significantly increase the number of people who (a) get tested ( make getting tested as regular and routine as one's 2-3 times/year dental checkups (sure it should be more often)

(2) Educate people as to what a HIV- result means: Understanding the period an HIV test covers and, more importantly, what time frame it does not cover is something that people should understand; most people think that HIV- results today include any sex you had for the 3-4 weeks prior to the test and that the HIV- result means you are absolutely HIV-.

(3) Repeal all criminal transmission of HIV laws and pass new legislation that makes HIV transmission criminal only in cases of rape, manipulation of condoms to render it ineffective and something to cover the malicious intent cases (criminally using a syringe of AIDS blood to assault someone and similar types), these cases are so rare they likely account for 0.001% of current charges. The law should recognize that if two adults are having consensual sex and both adults choose not to use protection, nothing criminal occurs because such a decision is made individually and both involved are equally responsible for his or her decision.

YES! On this site though it is either sensationalized (poz me poz me poz me) or information is readily ignored. So many don't want to get into the weeds of HIV.

To the thread point, we need a more frank public discussion about how HIV (and other STIs) work. A public figure be it Magic, or a brave younger person would be a boost to the cause. For reasons given previously I would be surprized (but pleased) if such a figure came forth.

On a site like this, I'd say the discussion is more honest because people make it known what they want and how they want to get it (if that makes sense)...

You are right that a lot of HIV testing has gone underground and HIV isn't in the spotlight the way it deserves to be... as we discussed earlier in this thread, people don't understand the period an HIV test covers and what that means... Yes a celebrity public advocate could be the catalyst to change that but I'm not holding my breath for it to happen either.

And of course just like an STI can change a poz guy on meds from undetectable to detectable; and STI can interfere with effectiveness of PrEP.

Absolutely.

Look, I tend to think that quite often guys will claim to be "undetectable" because in today's society "undetectable" is appealing to the largest possible population of potential hookups (while I would never imagine that a guy would tell a tall tale about his status in order to get laid...) and a large group of HIV- guys view "undetectable" like a guy with a bad cold that is not contagious-- they believe that a guy who says he's "undetectable" = a guy who "is unable to infect me".

I mention this for an important reason and that is the need for more HIV awareness, HIV understanding and self-examination (of one's own health)-- this is absolutely critical for several reasons. Frankly, those with a strong HIV understanding knows specific questions to ask to determine if a guy who claims he is "undetectable" is being honest (and he knows not to ask such questions online as it allows time to Google the answers). A guy who makes self-examination (as in one's own health) a priority knows that true status is more often "unknown" than "HIV-". A guy with HIV awareness knows that so many of his peers are ignorant to the facts and unaware of the importance to put in writing (an IM or whatever) if they are HIV+ with a hookup because it could make the difference between being prosecuted and not having to deal with that bullshit.

For the portion of population who are thinking people, we're already there. Even time won't cure the Tea Party of their delusions.

That made me laugh.

I think often it takes a medical issue being personalized/hitting home for some of the most closed minded dolts to look at something from a different perspective...

I'm sure you agree that a dramatic increase in the number of people being tested for HIV and other STDs (NOT calling for government mandated testing), the shocking increase in the number of people infected would certainly personalize it for so many closed minded people who likely would personally know a loved one or friend with the medical issue.

I saw Trenton Ducatti at a club that closed down here in Seattle and he does look older than his actual age for sure. His skin has the look of someone who tans too much and the drug use and possible use of steroids probably just made it worse.

BIG TIME WORSE.

I don't get why people find him attractive, especially with his fabricated "charity" that isn't a charity... Months ago back when I used Twitter I went to the Kill Meth account and noticed that there had been no Tweets in over 2 months so I posted something like "guess meth is killed; good job" and suddenly the twitter account was active again.

Ducati is just a cracked out felon whose experience with the rodeo/circus must have taught him how to spot rubes because for a couple years he has certainly used his carny skills to convince the condom porn industry that he's just terrific....

I'd escorted with him a few times. He was a really sweet guy, fun and super-sexual. It depressed me to hear that he had died - but it wasn't shocking. He was using hard drugs (not just meth), and even from our limited interactions it seemed he had problems restricting his intake. Friends and mutual acquaintances had the same feeling - sad, but unsurprised. Some people have the self-control to manage hard drug use, and avoid dependencies. Others are doomed the minute they put the pipe to their lips.

Those are really thoughtful, insightful words; I am sorry for the loss of your friend and really appreciate the honest words you shared.

Any idea what got him into escorting/amateur porn? I was surprised to read he is a graduate of Parsons and it has me curious why he chose the route he did.

Yeah, he's a bit weird. Earlier this year I got into it with him on Twitter. He thinks it's OK to bareback on home, but not on camera (among other things)...

https://twitter.com/rawTOP/status/336957242219839488

I just saw this and am baffled by this guy:

http://thehissfit.com/blog/2013/09/14/speed-free-trenton-ducati-the-fight-magazine/

A few things on that article:

In the article Trenton Ducati Says:

However, all that changed when he tried meth for the first time at age 13. “That drug completed me,” he said. “It removed any kind of awkwardness or social anxiety I had. It replaced my family and anything I felt I was missing in my life. I was deeply in love with this drug. I remember saying, ‘I’m going to do this drug for the rest of my life.’”

-I'm sorry but no one who says those words can possibly be as clean as he boasts; I have a number of friends in recovery and shared this quote with a few and their feedback matched mine.

His Foundation Scam

In the article it is noted that:

“Kill Meth” – a drug prevention and harm reduction non-profit organization.

Interesting enough there is no such non-profit organization or charity called that or run by Zach Ivey (Trenton Ducati) registered in California, New York, New Mexico or Washington (States he is affiliated with).

Prison

It is noted that:

Ivey landed in jail more times than he cares to mention.

The article discusses at length that he was in prison multiple times but once again the reason for any of his prison terms are not disclosed. This is quite suspect to me and Ducati seems to be avoid sharing what he was convicted of in the past.

The dude pockets money he generates with a phony charity and cause that he may or may not follow and has multiple prison terms yet he is the darling of the mainstream porn industry; it is baffling no one calls him out on this or the fact that he looks about 20 years older than he actually is...

Yeah, he's a bit weird. Earlier this year I got into it with him on Twitter. He thinks it's OK to bareback on home, but not on camera (among other things)...

https://twitter.com/rawTOP/status/336957242219839488

His tweets have often made me question if he's a active member of his #KillMeth scam or back to his old ways...

At this point in history though, I really doubt universal HIV testing would shatter people's perceptions of HIV. It is "the boogeyman" and that is a long held habit. So the results would be a larger pool of maligned people. Please understand when I write this that I'm not reflecting my own beliefs. From my personal POV, HIV is like any other disease. It becomes emotionally charged in the minds of the broader public though because one typically gets it from sex; and at least as a nation; sex gets more reaction. As a nation, sex is wanton. Sex is just pleasure and somehow is worse than gluttony. As a result, illnesses from sex are presently treated differently.

If one considers the diseases in the last 50 years that went from being the "boogeyman" or a definite death sentence that today are widely viewed as common/manageable, it is clear that people's notions about certain ailments can completely change with time and knowledge. That understanding provides hope that HIV can/will someday be thought of in a new light.

I agree and the campaign falls flat with me not seeing it much in Seattle where he is from either.

But it is NOT a campaign, it is a $$$ generator for one of the shadiest people in porn.

Before anyone thinks I'm slandering him, understand that I use the word shady because of his federal prison past, the details of which have not been fully revealed (I can't find the specifics). For some reason he's the darling of the mainstream porn industry (I find him totally unattractive) and no one's dug into his sketchy past, questioned his curious present activities or questioned his phony campaign which is something that only seems to help his bank account and not actual people.

@JizzDumpWI I think the biggest game changer on every level would be a universal push to get tested. If the number of people (gay, lesbian, heterosexual, transgender) that actually get tested significantly increases, I have zero doubt that the amount of HIV+ people would dramatically increase. Such an occurrence would shatter people's perceptions of HIV as it would be viewed as a more common ailment (like cancer, diabetes and similar potentially life-long medical issues) and less taboo in the eyes of so many.

dshanebb, please don't ASSUME that is what I did... Effectiveness varies in a not unsurprising way. If one is inconsistent it doesn't work. Really nothing new there. At the moment there isn't a "morning after" version; so if one chooses PrEP they are either in it all the way, or no point in using it at all. PrEP is not a "supplement". PrEP is 2/3 of Atrypla The effectiveness variation is nearly identical to the effect on "undetectible" for HIV meds. Catch an STI and effectiveness will drop. But otherwise, compliance results in typically excellent outcomes.

What isn't getting mentioned here, and should, is how PrEP is a definite game changer. I fear YOU are not recognizing that. PrEP is in fact altering the HIV conversation from blame to personal responsibility. And for this reason, rather than looking for movie stars to change the conversation; is what we should collectively be seeking.

I agree with Scandbro that we would do well to have a celeb on PrEP. And as far as effectiveness, it will continue to improve as research continues along this path.

We're not "done". PrEP will continue to evolve. And IMO we should be celebrating the new direction from just treating HIV, to solutions that allow all of use who strongly prefer skin on skin sex to give prevention options to those not yet poz.

I apologize if you perceived my words to be solely directed at you or to be making any sort of assumption about you; that was not my intention. Frankly it was not aimed at you because it was clear to me that you definitely did your research before choosing PrEP and that you understand the importance of diligently taking the supplement; which is awesome.

That being said, there is a great deal of conflicting data on the effectiveness of PrEP. I agree that it has the POTENTIAL to be a game-changer but there is still a long way to go for it to reach its potential. I'm sure you can agree that a major hurdle to clear is gaining the buy-in from all insurance companies. After gaining that buy-in so it's covered, the even bigger hurdle to clear is to produce an effective public relations and advertising campaign that alters the mindset of the public so they will recognize the benefits of using such a supplement and, more importantly, the need to be diligent about making it a part of their life every day.

What are you talking about?

Trenton Ducati's Kill Meth scam: http://trentonducati.com/killmeth/

It's not about helping people as much as selling t-shirts to supplement his income.

Following up on my own post: Xzandlyr on Dudes Nude (Xander Hollis). He messaged me yesterday, as follows: "If I'm ever in Chicago we need to swap strains." For sure!

WOW he is super HOT!!!!!

So I was at the bathhouse the other day and I passed a room with the door open. There was this cute cubby guy laying back on his bed with just a towel over his turgid cock. I let myself into the room and right away it was apparent that he was tweaking. His lower jaw kept jerking and he had a facial tick. He was also slow to respond to any questions.

I started playing with his nipples and his cock got stiffer, so I climbed on top of him and lowered my ass to sit on his cock. No sooner had I gotten the head of his cock in my hole when he stopped me and said, "rubbers are ok." I was stunned. I didn't think guys who were high on meth cared about rubbers. I guess it's their prerogative but it seems kind of like a double standard. I politely told him thank you, got off his cock and left his room.

Anyone else ever encounter this?

Maybe he has Tourettes syndrome or Parkinson's disease.... those could explain his facial issues and slow response time...

As one of the few ON PeEP here.... Agree adherence is essential much as HIV med adherence is necessary to control. I am getting the impression here that we are already slamming PrEP. Is it perfect? No. But strongly rivals condoms and research continues. The notion that gay men need barrier sex while straight people are free to enjoy skin on skin sex is not a sustainable model.

If we shift the conversation with PrEP to personal responsibility for ones own health, we will substantially change the HIV dialogue. So ease up on throwing PrEP out the window for a better option...

I'm not writing that PrEP is completely ineffective, I am highlighting the fact that the results of studies analyzing the effectiveness of PrEP vary significantly. If one is considering PrEP they should read and analyze the actual studies themselves and not just rely on one impressive statistic from one study. The fact that human nature demonstrates someone is less likely to strictly adhere to taking a preventative supplement must be considered. Also, the coverage of PrEP by insurance companies is not universal.

Total agreement here: I read a number of studies as part of my voluntary work and they way facts are cherry-picked.

Absolute adherence to the prescription is vital: no "I've got flu and won't be getting laid for the next week so why bother?" It's difficult enough for those of us on HAART to adhere to the prescription. I can't imagine how much more difficult it must be to take it "just in case".

Noting that you have a deeper knowledge of HIV research than most and that you seem to make it a priority to maintain an understanding of the latest HIV/AIDS developments, your analysis is definitely something to pay attention to.

This is where I think PrEP will play an important role, at least here in the U.S. We are only just starting to change the conversation about HIV here. Funding started shifting into new prevention and awareness campaigns around the beginning of this year.

I'd encourage you to do some deeper research into PrEP; studies have demonstrated that it is not the be all end all that it is purported to be. It also requires the individual to diligently take the medication in order to be effective and insurance covering it is not a given in many cases. You'll find that a lot of media reports the same statistics from one study while ignoring the meat of that study and every other dissenting study of the effectiveness of PrEP-- read the studies, not just the media reports and learn the whole story.

This is how...

I'm sorry but donations to the American Heart Association when the problem was meth? Seems to me the family is ignoring the 600 lb gorilla in the room.

Bottom line in my opinion is that it does no one any good to pretend we don't have a meth problem in the gay community. But unlike the AIDS crisis there's almost no one addressing our community's meth problem. I've poked around a little and tried to find someone - saying I'll give them all the free advertising space they want in my chem sex section - no takers. There's a few people here and there doing (very) good work. But it's just a few people - there's no one working on a national or international level.

It is really troublesome that one of the only "anti-meth" "campaigns" in the world of gay sex appears to be nothing more than a way for a convicted felon to make money selling t-shirts to the masses. The fact that the allegedly "clean" person who started and runs this "campaign" does nothing to help others with the revenue generated by the t-shirts he pushes; it simply goes into the guy's bank account. Yet the convicted felon who runs the scheme is the darling performer of the mainstream porn industry. It's quite sad.

Well I still feel the need to apologise, so tough shit!

You have no idea of the relief it gives me to hear someone else refer to "HIV unknown" - you simply can't prove a negative! I wrote my first giftgiving bit of fiction yesterday (Pozdaddy) and all through it is the question "do you really want this?". I admit that as a pozman I was immensely turned on by writing the story, even though I've never tried before to eroticise HIV.

And I'm with you on rape/deception being the only reason for HIV's presence in a courtroom...

Thanks.

Well HIV Unknown is the actual status of every sexually active person who barebacks-- unless two guys are in a relationship where they have been monogamous for circa 6 months (and after four months of monogamy both guys get tested and results show they are HIV-).

Otherwise science proves that if you've been sexually active and barebacking in the past 90 days then your status is HIV Unknown; that's a fact.

I've always loved bb and I didn't chase but didn't avoid exposure, I knew the risks and the eventual outcome; I'm cool with my decision.

What I absolutely hate is people who choose ignorance, people who made a decision and knew the risks but after the outcome decide they're a "victim" and most of all people who can't imagine that someone would lie about their status (or lie about anything) just to get laid.

I always share my status when I hookup but don't judge people who choose the 'don't ask, don't tell' route prior to bb sex.

Maybe I'm sick of the endless mainstream media stories about HIV focusing on Porn performers getting HIV or some guy being criminally prosecuted for violating antiquated HIV laws and the person exposed (who in almost all of the cases chose to have bb sex w/the defendant) being labeled a "victim".

It would be nice to have another Magic Johnson-type make an HIV revelation because it certainly has the potential to help alter people's perceptions...

Scott's obituary confirms that the cause of death is cardiac failure.

The following is from the obituary:

(Note: I have chosen to not post the complete obituary out of respect for his family's privacy; instead I share selected highlights. If you want to read the full obit then Google is your friend)

Scott Robert Brewster passed away suddenly of cardiac failure on Sept. 21, 2013 at his home in New York City.

Scott was born in Livingston, N.J., and graduated with honors from Westfield High School in 2001, where he was known for his theater performances. He received a bachelors in fine arts with honors in 2004 from Parsons the New School for Design in New York City. Scott was a web designer and motion graphic artist.

In lieu of flowers, please send donations to the American Heart Association.

Those wishing to leave a condolence message can do so here:

http://dooleycolonialfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/1674822/Brewster-Scott/leave-condolence.php

And my apologies to you: The drugs that were available in the late nineties or so had a strong propensity for causing diabetes, and I freely admit I wish I hadn't taken the bastards and am somewhat oversensitive about the subject. When a diabetes doctor sayd "it's easy enough to cope with: just think of it as being like having HIV..." Sorry, man, I didn't mean to fly off the handle...

No apology necessary, but much appreciated.

I commend you for being aware of your health and making health management a priority in your life. So many people my age and younger are ignorant of or do not manage their health issues-- which is a decision they make in their own free will and while I don't judge them for it; I don't understand choosing ignorance.

Not to get too off topic but it's troublesome how decisions one makes by their own free will are completely ignored when HIV is involved; specifically I am referring to the increased prosecution of men accused of spreading HIV or potentially exposing someone to HIV. If two men hookup and they make the decision to bareback, universally known facts prove that there is the potential for exposure to HIV and/or other STDs.

It's not rocket science that if one tested negative a month ago but has barebacked in the weeks before or after being tested, their HIV status is "unknown".

• The earliest the HIV virus will be indicated in testing is 1-3 weeks after exposure however the only test that will indicate HIV in the body that soon is the Antigen test (RNA test) which is not widely offered because it is much expensive than anitbody tests.
  
• With the most commonly used HIV tests, the Antibody or "Rapid" tests it takes 2-8 weeks (up to 2 months) after infection, most people will have enough antibodies to test positive.
  

Unless someone is exposed from being raped against their will or via deceptive means (sabotaging the condom with intent to infect), there is no justification in criminally prosecuting someone via these HIV laws-- such prosecutions which are often sensationalized by the media only serves to demonize HIV and make it more taboo.

I am not certain that just any major celeb could come out as POZ and have it demystify HIV...

I guess I am a bit cynical, but I just don't think HIV can become demystified simply by having a young hip gay celeb disclose his status. I think potentially it could be more harmful. I think the circumstances around it all would have to be a perfect blend of 'old enough to know better but too young to care' persona mixed with a deadly earnestness to maintain innocence and vulnerability.

Please don't cherry-pick one element of one of my comment and propose that is my thesis... Noting that you've been following this thread from the beginning, I would urge you to focus on the macro, not the micro and comprehend the compilation of my comments here,