bbfan74 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 I just wanted to share a little bit of personal experience on here because I have come to find out that HIV is pertty difficult to contract. Thank God, because I am not a bug chaser and I don't want to become positive either. However, I like barebacking and it is a huge turn on for me. As a teenager and young adult I was *very* careful about HIV. Always using condoms, not taking sperm in my mouth. Then I started to fuck without a condom as a top. Then I took cum in my mouth but spit it out. Then I finally started getting fucked bareback. And eventually I started to swallow cum (but not very often). However, what I always paid attention to is that no top ever came inside me. This week I tested negative again. And I'm quite happy about that. I know that people say you can also contract HIV as a top, but let me tell you I have definitely fucked about 1.000 guys. So I believe it is not that really impossible to contract HIV as a top unless the bottom you fuck has someone else's cum inside him (which is another thing I tried to avoid). Also, taking cum in your mouth doesn't seem to be very dangerous (unless you have a wound in your mouth). The only thing that seems to be really dangerous is taking cum up your ass, which is what I never let anybody do. There were only two occasions that a guy came in my ass because I didn't say anything and they were so quick. Anyway, I just wanted to share this with people who may also like barebacking but do not want to be infected! So maybe these are some strategies to minimize the risk. I know it's not playing safe but maybe it's still helpful for some people.
firefighter Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 I have to agree with you bbfan, I am in the autumn years of my life now and I started BB'ing when I was 18. I used to up until about 20 always topped, and I decided one day to take it instead, and needless to say have never looked back. But anyway to keep a long story short, like yourself I have my preferences. I only let total tops cum inside me, Versailles cum over me, but that said I also too have broken my own rules, If you have a hot guy on you and he is doing all the right things, it's kinda hard to tell him to get off . At this point of my life I will hardly start using condoms now, and besides I have hooked up with many a guy who specified safe sex in his profile, yeah right for many it's just a term they add to there profile.
bbfan74 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Posted August 30, 2013 I once read a statement by a user on here who said "Avoiding HIV is simply - keep the cum outside" or something like this. And I think this pretty much nails it. Of course this isn't a 100% safe tip but it might be a good strategy for people who like bareback but still try to stay negative.
hungry_hole Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 I have been barebacking since the mid 90's, 99.99% of the time bottoming and many times taking anon loads. I've estimated that I've taken at least 1,500 loads and I'm still HIV-neg. I would have to agree that it's not easy for the HIV virus to infect someone. I think of myself as being lucky because I know that many HIV+ guys never had the amount of sex I've had but at the same time I know that if I keep barebacking I shouldn't be surprised if I pozed.
bbfan74 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Posted August 30, 2013 @hungry_hole If you have also taken anon loads, then maybe you are immune to the HIV virus? Have you often taken cum up your ass or only occasionally?
hungry_hole Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 This last year I've slowed down and maybe have only taken 5 loads since February. But I also sucked a few cocks. Last time having a lot of anon sex, at least one load per day for the first 20 days of January 2013, was while I was in Chile staying at an apartment in the gay area of Santiago rented by one of the moderators of this site. Great location but the more Spanish you know the more sex you will have. You need Spanish in the chatrooms and in any of the profiles guys will be reading. While in Chile I went to sauna Metro in Santiago where they have, in my opinion, the best public sling, best lighting, surrounded by a semi-curtain allowing some privacy. I've taken up to 5 anon loads on that sling. They also have an awesome darkroom, the best breeding place in that sauna. Not much for private spaces which is what some guys complain about. I may be immune but I'm not counting on it. I will be going to Santiago, Chile again for the month of September so again I may take a lot of anon loads. It's hard not to when at not more than 3-4 blocks there are (1) several Cyber Cafes with private booths, gloryholes and darkrooms, (2) Theaters showing straight porn while guys suck and fuck each other (3) 2 saunas (4) Lots of hookups No, I've been someone you would call "careless" when it comes to HIV.
Guest faggot hole Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 i agree. i've been taking raw loads since before high school and a shit-load of anon loads. i am, as they say, "sexually active" -- that is multi-loads a day. And still neg.
bearbandit Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Guys, what you're talking about here is your own personal experience. You can't generalise from that: I know guys who got HIV after just a few fucks. I don't doubt your individual experiences, but they're all anecdotal. Just because tenofovir turned poisonous for me doesn't mean that everyone should come off PrEP: it was just my good luck, in the same way as your staying negative has been your good luck. As an incidental, I personally believe that the rates for transmission via oral sex are inflated by guys who'll go as far as saying they sucked someone off, but won't tell the truth about getting fucked. Just a thought...
sfversboi Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 yeah, one of my college buds pozzed with his first bb fuck. he is 19 and was surprised, thinking it would not happen for a long time. now he just put out to guys that want to cum inside him, making the most of being pozzed. he is not doing meds yet, dr said to wait.
cumluver Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 my experience is the same as hungry_holes... i get BB fucked a lot, i like to take multiple loads. go to sex clubs and take anon loads. and sometimes fucked by the same guy many times over a couple months or so and later find he is pos. and i am still neg. I get tested frequently and always think this one is going to be pos....
bearbandit Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 it was just my good luck, in the same way as your staying negative has been your good luck. Obviously I meant to write "it was just my bad luck, in the same way as your staying negative has been your good luck." Sorry 'bout such an idiotic error...
bbfan74 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Posted August 31, 2013 yeah, one of my college buds pozzed with his first bb fuck. he is 19 and was surprised, thinking it would not happen for a long time. now he just put out to guys that want to cum inside him, making the most of being pozzed. he is not doing meds yet, dr said to wait. Yes, but I assume he took cum up his ass. The of course I guess it is very likely to be pozzed. However when you do not get bred, it obviously is not that easy to contract HIV. As I said, just my experience but seeing that scientists and doctors can only rely on what they can reproduce in their labs, I think my experience is also something that can be considered. I mean, it cannot be coincidence because I've been fucked by a lot of guys bareback and I have barebacked at least 1.000 guys. But have not taken cum up my ass (expect for two accidents). So I guess I was lucky AND the virus is definitely not that easy to contract.
Guest GoodExercise Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 Believe what you must -- and have fun!
CaliSmoker Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 Are there any tips for increasing your odd of conversion? I know this isn't that thread maybe so I won't go too far off base. Just asking in case anyone knows. Toothbrush...ok but anything better than make sure your hole is damaged?
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