Split off from Daddy's Gonna Fuck You Up

[MuscleKink]

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Moderator's Note: I split off the comments about non-consensual or violent stories into this separate thread. 

Yea, we’re all better human beings for having read it.  Sorry, but I would not stand by in a bar while some kid was being subjected to this.  The stories here are almost totally non-consensual now.  Can no one write a hot story of using drugs for first time without involving rape, non-consensual sero converting and sex trafficking.

[iwannafux]

6 hours ago, MuscleKink said:

Yea, we’re all better human beings for having read it.  Sorry, but I would not stand by in a bar while some kid was being subjected to this.  The stories here are almost totally non-consensual now.  Can no one write a hot story of using drugs for first time without involving rape, non-consensual sero converting and sex trafficking.

I agree man!

[str8mature5]

Keep it in mind guys this is fiction. 

[Guest]

No, violence especially non-consensual sex is not for me. Perhaps it is better to create a separate forum for those who are into reading such  materials. 

[elasticmaster]

On 11/15/2021 at 8:00 PM, chemslut84 said:

No, violence especially non-consensual sex is not for me. Perhaps it is better to create a separate forum for those who are into reading such  materials. 

I would think the title would have been a dead giveaway to the type of story to expect. Personally, I'm not a fan of the stories where pigs just beg to be chemmed and fucked because there's really no plot or suspense to it. I don't support non-consensual activities IRL either, but this is fantasy, and fantasy should push the boundaries of what we can get away with in reality.  Personally, I hope we get more of this story. I skip past many stories that don't excite me without commenting.  To each their own, but this story seems pretty in line with what I've come to expect from this forum. Keep it coming!!

[eagerdaniel]

On 11/3/2021 at 4:11 AM, iwannafux said:

I agree man!

Yes you are correct

[indian faggot]

On 11/18/2021 at 2:18 AM, elasticmaster said:

I would think the title would have been a dead giveaway to the type of story to expect. Personally, I'm not a fan of the stories where pigs just beg to be chemmed and fucked because there's really no plot or suspense to it. I don't support non-consensual activities IRL either, but this is fantasy, and fantasy should push the boundaries of what we can get away with in reality.  Personally, I hope we get more of this story. I skip past many stories that don't excite me without commenting.  To each their own, but this story seems pretty in line with what I've come to expect from this forum. Keep it coming!!

I agree that limits can be pushed only in fantasies. Of course, no bottom with healthy mind would want to go through such abuse in reality.  Although, for the theoratical clarity here I would like to point out the difference between chem sex and chem violence.  Rape is not SEX without consent, but it is violence of sexual nature that comes with politics of power dynamics. Politics is inersectional with the sexualities, power can come from any aspets like age, race, money, physical strength or anthing that creates imbalance / inequility.  Difference between BDSM and violence is that in BDSM the slave craves the abuse because of the trust, skills and chemisty he has wih the master and both of them know that its a roleplay to be done with prior consent, also even through  pain/torture/humiliation it still remains about the mutual pleasure.  Violence is not sex although the act of penetration might be involved.  This is a chem-sex forum, not a chem-violence one.  Any random bully with corrupt power can choose to perpetuate violence of any kind on the vulnerable,  whereas it takes skills, time, patience and chemisty to build that connect with a slave for him to want to crave the bdsm play. I imagine that story would be a challenge to write. One of us could try may be.

[elasticmaster]

7 minutes ago, indian faggot said:

I agree that limits can be pushed only in fantasies. Of course, no bottom with healthy mind would want to go through such abuse in reality.  Although, for the theoratical clarity here I would like to point out the difference between chem sex and chem violence.  Rape is not SEX without consent, but it is violence of sexual nature that comes with politics of power dynamics. Politics is inersectional with the sexualities, power can come from any aspets like age, race, money, physical strength or anthing that creates imbalance / inequility.  Difference between BDSM and violence is that in BDSM the slave craves the abuse because of the trust, skills and chemisty he has wih the master and both of them know that its a roleplay to be done with prior consent, also even through  pain/torture/humiliation it still remains about the mutual pleasure.  Violence is not sex although the act of penetration might be involved.  This is a chem-sex forum, not a chem-violence one.  Any random bully with corrupt power can choose to perpetuate violence of any kind on the vulnerable,  whereas it takes skills, time, patience and chemisty to build that connect with a slave for him to want to crave the bdsm play. I imagine that story would be a challenge to write. One of us could try may be.

 

You've made your point, and I respect your opinion, but this isn't the forum for it. There are plenty of stories here with this sort of theme, and this one made it pretty clear in the title. That alone should have been enough indicator without it requiring a separate forum. Almost every forum here, chem or otherwise, includes some stories with aspects of coercion or non-consensual sex and other stories with more consensual themes. We all have the option to read them or move on to different stories. Please read what appeals to you and stop trying to shame us or censor what many of us clearly enjoy reading. I'm just here to get off and don't need a therapy session with my porn. There are stories here that appeal to all different imaginations, so there is plenty for each of us to appreciate. Have a wonderful holiday season.

[chainsmokerpig]

Taking some kind of moral high ground on a bug chasing website forum is the funniest thing you'll see this year folks !!

 

[Guest]

If you don’t like the theme of the story, read a different story. Personally I love a story that makes my cock overcome Tina dick.

[billy88666]

I can't believe the number of people that have chosen this story to stand up on their soapboxes. The tales here are all fiction and I feel that that this story is a pretty fair representation of what can happen when someone engages in chem sex. I speak from experience. I was in my 20's and inexperienced and went home with a guy who ended up brutally raping and assaulting me. I think that the writer has written a pretty graphic tale but it was also written with a fair degree of skill. I certainly didn't find  it offensive...  I learnt from my own experiences that night not to bite off more than I can chew. I pretty much got what I deserved that night for lying to a guy about what I was willing to do just to spend a night with him.

As for someone moaning here that all they see is non consensual stories, well then write some thing yourself! The writers here have taken a lot of time and effort to pen their stories and I'm always grateful for that and try to take the time to say thanks and post a like. You may not like a story but there will always be readers who do.

Chainsmokerpig hit the nail on the head when he said "Taking some kind of moral high ground on a bug chasing website forum is the funniest thing you'll see this year folks !!"

Those of you that cannot stand the heat should get out of the kitchen.. stick to a bottle of poppers and a cuddle or write something yourselves.

[MuscleKink]

I wasn’t trying to take a moral high ground.  In fact, consent is such an important part of any civil society that I don’t believe it’s the topic of debate anywhere.  I also didn’t ask for the topic to be split off but it’s been interesting to see the response.  My post was meant to be a challenge for some of the gifted writers on here to write something different.

[cumslutfuckpig]

On 11/24/2021 at 8:43 PM, indian faggot said:

I agree that limits can be pushed only in fantasies. Of course, no bottom with healthy mind would want to go through such abuse in reality.  Although, for the theoratical clarity here I would like to point out the difference between chem sex and chem violence.  Rape is not SEX without consent, but it is violence of sexual nature that comes with politics of power dynamics. Politics is inersectional with the sexualities, power can come from any aspets like age, race, money, physical strength or anthing that creates imbalance / inequility.  Difference between BDSM and violence is that in BDSM the slave craves the abuse because of the trust, skills and chemisty he has wih the master and both of them know that its a roleplay to be done with prior consent, also even through  pain/torture/humiliation it still remains about the mutual pleasure.  Violence is not sex although the act of penetration might be involved.  This is a chem-sex forum, not a chem-violence one.  Any random bully with corrupt power can choose to perpetuate violence of any kind on the vulnerable,  whereas it takes skills, time, patience and chemisty to build that connect with a slave for him to want to crave the bdsm play. I imagine that story would be a challenge to write. One of us could try may be.

I don’t really care for people sitting in judgment of “healthy minds”.  You have expertise here?  Or are you the latest round of prudes to tell people who don’t hew to your kinks how sick they are?   Screw you - if I wanted to be judged I wouldn’t come to a site devoted to no small extent to pozzing and getting high.  Kind of makes me wonder why are you here?  
 

This site, with few carefully carved out exceptions, does its best work exploring boundaries, marginal behavior, kink, and [banned word] by being inclusive and safe… like scat?  I won’t do that but I won’t delegitimize your kink, or dehumanize you, by ranting about how I feel about it.  
 

if you don’t like the story, don’t read it.  
 

as to the question of consent, especially consent in the context of repressed sexuality, ego enhancing and disinhibiting chemicals, it becomes extraordinarily complex.  Trust me when I tell you, having experienced a top who listened to my body not my mouth - truly listened - I was taken places I’d have never been brave enough to ask for and my life would be several shades paler without.  
 

that’s not an argument to dismiss consent.  That’s nuts.  But imposing provincial attitudes on others and deciding for us what’s right and wrong us not your place.  

[Shotsfired]

For me, stories like this one help me process my own double sexual assault from when I was younger.  I don't know why but its therapeutic.