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We still live in a world where some at least continue to utter "it's worth any amount of money if only....".  

I think we have a responsibility to each other in a civilized society to make reasonable attempts to protect each other from harm.  But it is up to each of us to decide what we, ourselves, define as harmful to ourselves.  Keeping developing humans out of harms way until they can make an informed decision makes good sense.  But if said developing human is smart enough to work out how to get around blocks or over fences - something youngsters have been doing for centuries - we've done our part.  

A lot of the current strife we're experiencing globally is how to define our boundaries.  We seem to get caught up in trying to define everyone else's boundary even though those are more restrictive than those, we ourselves, define for ourselves.  Why?

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On 8/6/2025 at 2:11 PM, PozBearWI said:

We still live in a world where some at least continue to utter "it's worth any amount of money if only....".  

I think we have a responsibility to each other in a civilized society to make reasonable attempts to protect each other from harm.  But it is up to each of us to decide what we, ourselves, define as harmful to ourselves.  Keeping developing humans out of harms way until they can make an informed decision makes good sense.  But if said developing human is smart enough to work out how to get around blocks or over fences - something youngsters have been doing for centuries - we've done our part.  

A lot of the current strife we're experiencing globally is how to define our boundaries.  We seem to get caught up in trying to define everyone else's boundary even though those are more restrictive than those, we ourselves, define for ourselves.  Why?

Flawed argument with an even more flawed "fix".

Trying to hide things wholesale - pretending that they don't exist, only makes them more desirable. Especially to teenagers.

Education - whether it's drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, or just how to cross a road safely is the key.

This site is full of sluts. Some, like me, actually live it, having made made an educated choice about doing so. Others, are here for the thrill and to talk and to live vicariously, which is fine. Because it's also an educated choice to do so.

You want kids to not browse porn? Put the computers and consoles where they can be seen. Simple as that. Give them a dumb phone - it's not cool but it allows contact without the social apps or browsing capabilities. 

I've worked in IT for a very long time and let me tell you that kids have always, and will always, know more about technology and emerging trends than 99.9% of their parents - you only have to look at this thread to see the lack of comprehension around what is a VPN, how to get one etc etc. And that's simple technology that's been around decades.

People give their information away wholesale to Twitter, Facebook, Google etc etc without ever stopping to consider what is that they are actually giving away, because they aren't educated about the consequences and just want "free stuff".

Councils changed the flooring around public playgrounds from concrete when I was a kid, to rubberised matting that won't kill you or seriously harm you if you fall from height onto it. Which is great, but you still have to educate your kids that jumping from the top of a slide onto the floor is a really fucking bad idea. Sometimes, they have to find things like that out the hard way. Education isn't always easy, or friendly, or without painful consequences.

The bigger problem here is parents abrogating their parental responsibilities. We've had decades of the concept that if you fuck something up, it has to be someone else's fault rather than your own stupidity. 

And make no mistake about it - none of what the government are doing here, is "for the kids" whatever they may tell you - it's precursors to more and more control over their own citizens. Something that has only escalated since 9/11.

Just wait and see - "Oh... kids are using VPN's. You know what would fix this? Banning VPN's? Nope because business use them all the time...wait... oh yes! Let's have a national firewall, akin to the great firewall of China"

And *that* will be there purely for censorship and control.

And if you don't believe me, look up GCHQ "Smurfs" or Google Edward Snowden for how the US NSA were wholesale snooping on their own citizens.

Which, again, wouldn't be so terrible in and of itself if it actually led to lower rates of actual everyday crime, terrorism, child abuse etc etc etc, but it doesn't. 

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