Joe Biden was an absolute freaking *disaster* for gay ppl

[SomewhereonNeptune]

17 hours ago, nanana said:

upon further reflection, which seemed worth it given the less-than-charitable response, I illustrate that my initial point had nothing do with inflation CAUSES, but instead with the EXPERIENCE of losing purchasing power.  this might have been picked up on by anyone who has empathy for folks who lose 20% or greater purchasing power, but probably not picked up by anyone who is focused on defending the reputation of a politician.  it is certainly a great topic (not my focus) to expand the conversation to the causes of inflation, and I would happily concede that I  fell into the bad habit of Americans since the Reagan era (Reagonomics yes, but not Carteromics) to attribute all economic performance to a sitting President.  it's wonderful to practice coexistence by having AND conversations rather than BUT or EITHER/OR conversations.  

@Rillionperhaps next time you are triggered to MadLib a choice architecture for my character for me (and all others on this thread), perhaps you will breathe, take a beat, and consider whether the initial point and your adrenillated points might be COMPATIBLE rather than OPPOSITIONAL. 

Well put @nanana. The dreaded ⬇️ seems to come out and be wielded like knives when someone 'disagrees' or 'doesn't like' a post, regardless of merit or facts or the illustration of a position.  I've already accepted that I'll post a position and cite data and if almost on queue, someone will emerge from the woodwork to downvote it rather than do something like state 'Here's why I disagree with your assertion'. Certain people will be reasonable. Others will be passive/aggressive. It's why we are so divided even within the more parochial LGBTQIA++ community.

17 hours ago, NYBBGUY58 said:

I will always retain affection for this highly imperfect man, because when he stepped up in 2012 to endorse gay marriage, he paid a steep political price at the time. Obama's aides and staff were furious with him, he was shut out for quite some time. That allowed my nephew and his now husband to marry and adopt a daughter.

There is no such thing as a perfect person or elected official. I rather liked his off-the-cuff style, even with his well-documented blunders.

I picked this post out as an example that there is common ground on which many of us can agree. Biden did come out as an ally where Obama was politically posturing. I commend him for that. Just like I commend him for pushing for the funding for the Hudson River tunnels, improvements to rail in the Northeast corridor, and other commitments that were made at a federal level that people like Chris Christie and Donald Trump dismissed or ignored when they were clearly needed.

And I think you'll find that most people don't harbor ill-will toward same sex couples. Our Presidents are imperfect. Our popes are imperfect, People in general are highly flawed, it's a very imperfect world and we're all human.