"Independent"

[tallslenderguy]

 

[tallslenderguy]

This too. Similar vein.

 

[tobetrained]

@tallslenderguy I watched that first interview multiple times since you posted this. I could not understand any of her points. I read this article today. I'm glad to see I'm not alone. Did you find something worthwhile?

[think before following links] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/29/karine-jean-pierre-book-backlash-00626014

And, the less I say about Bernie on this site the better, most likely. 😀

[Pozzible]

4 hours ago, tobetrained said:

@tallslenderguy I watched that first interview multiple times since you posted this. I could not understand any of her points. I read this article today. I'm glad to see I'm not alone. Did you find something worthwhile?

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/29/karine-jean-pierre-book-backlash-00626014

And, the less I say about Bernie on this site the better, most likely. 😀

I like Jeanne-Pierrre in the briefing room. The one book interview I watched was a fiasco. I didn’t watch the Bernie interview. I think he has a lot of ideas that are discussion-worthy. But not so practical if fully implemented. 

[tallslenderguy]

6 hours ago, tobetrained said:

@tallslenderguy I watched that first interview multiple times since you posted this. I could not understand any of her points. I read this article today. I'm glad to see I'm not alone. Did you find something worthwhile?

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/29/karine-jean-pierre-book-backlash-00626014

And, the less I say about Bernie on this site the better, most likely. 😀

i listen to a broad spectrum of people on both sides. my posting the video was not intended as an endorsement of Jean Pierre. i don't think Colbert threw her soft balls or endorsed much of what she said. my point is to hear the voices of those in power positions.

 

[tobetrained]

got it. the video title does beg the question, is there a better system than the two-party system? Or, alternatively, are all systems equally bad?

[tallslenderguy]

15 minutes ago, tobetrained said:

got it. the video title does beg the question, is there a better system than the two-party system? Or, alternatively, are all systems equally bad?

She states right up front that she is not advocating that people become Independent. i feel Stephen did a good job in a short interview when asking about the title: "... do you recommend that everyone leave the [democrat] party, and if so, where would they go?  Organization is how you face tyranny" .  my overall feel about Pierre was mixed. i think she made a salient point to Colbert's query: "I'm not suggesting that every one leave the party, i am not saying that we need a third party, i'm saying right now the two party system is not working."  i feel she becomes disingenuous when she answers Colbert's question about why democrats are dissatisfied that she wrote the book as a "road map" and her main issue with the democrats is there's "no fight, no teeth."   Interestingly (to me) her answers played well to the audience, less well to Colbert.  Which i found disappointing, because i thought Colbert's audience would be more critically informed.  i listen to audience response in Trump rallies, political discussions, because they are the voters being influenced. i was disappointed with her answer because it played well in the moment, but i do not think that's why the current administration is in power. 

[tallslenderguy]

 

[tobetrained]

re: "no fight, no teeth" and Colbert's audience response:

Isn't that what the shutdown is about? Democrats wanting to fight and stand up to Trump?... a base rally regardless of its impact or those hurt by it.

I agree on Trump's audience... I would further that, it's the same road Democrats are on as Reps were 12-15 years ago. Then Reps had been outta power presidential since the 80s expect for 2000-2008 (which ended badly for them) and were on the cusp of another Clinton running for the WH post-Obama.... and felt lost. They made themselves more and more extremist and opened themselves up to someone like Trump, a sort of pied piper character.

I kinda seen Dems on that very same extremist road. Colbert's audience response was completely within expectation of that and Dems today. Though I, too, wish it wasn't...hopefully not putting words in your mouth there.

[tobetrained]

@tallslenderguy Pete gives a good and dense interview. I don't know if he really commits to anything, which shouldn't be a problem as he's "not running." 😀

I heard him do it here, and another person from the left... like a tactic Reps use, he said / deflected, "leave it to municipalities, etc" or something similar. This is like Reps saying, "leave it to the states" or "states' rights."

I think this is a Dem tactic as they run so many of the our cities. But, like states' rights w Reps, they never say what they will do if those smaller geographies do something they don't like or don't do something they want.