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I'll offer some data I posted elsewhere. I think it's important for this recent convo re: what's the correct question: 2020 vs 2024 vote Biden 81.3 million vs. Harris 75.0; Dems lost >6 million voters (~8 million including population change) Trump: 74.2 million (2020) vs. 77.3; he got ~3 million more (slightly greater than population growth) It wasn't about some mass move to Republicans or Trump, not really. It was exhaustion with Democrats and progressive politics and policies. And that's something @PozTalkAuthor is getting at. And, most of the Dem decline came from CA, NY and other Dem population centers...I posted that data elsewhere too, don't have it in front of me. I went into some of my views above but will leave it at @tallslenderguy's ask for Trump supporters. Just realize, there are very few people who "switched sides" (on net) to begin with -- probably <1% of the population -- so this site will have very few of them. So it's really Rep and Rep-leaning voters voting Rep. For myself, I absolutely got what I needed for my throw-away vote (as written above). The conversation has changed. That's what I needed. We oscillate between two political extremes. That's the only way to find balance is to change party in power...not in the actual policies of either side. I don't want to derail this convo @tallslenderguy is bringing up. But to you crime statement @PozTalkAuthor, much to say. Maybe later of a different topic thread...which touches even the this thread itself.
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