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On 3/12/2024 at 9:16 PM, Ieatcumholes said:

I can only respond to a very specific part of what you wrote, so that's all I'm going to do...

As a top who gets more pleasure from giving pleasure than I do from being pleasured, this makes perfect sense to me! 😍

It made sense to me too. Despite  the bravado that sometimes surrounds a D/s or Top/bottom dynamic, my feel is both sides are fed by the pleasure the other derives from them. i don't think there's always a conscious awareness of that,  but i think part of psychosexual drive is the need we all have to be loved, wanted, desired. When  someone is getting obvious pleasure from fucking or getting fucked, for example, it's not hard to feel they are getting pleasure from who and how we are, not just the act of fucking.  i think it's why opposites naturally attract.

To me, the best sex is symbiotic. 

1 hour ago, NWUSHorny said:

It does, I just checked to see if it survived the recent upgrade, it did at least sort of survive, it is called "Message Board" under the 3 line icon in the upper left corner. The I participated in the regional forum for Denver which was quite active whe I lived there, I was surprised how inactive the Portland regional forum was when I moved out here 17 years ago, but then again I still don't really understand cruising in the PNW. Since you can no longer select a forum I'm not sure how it currently works maybe all topics have been lumped into a single forum.

Oh wow... i've been on squirt 20 plus years? never noticed... it was a great resource for cruise site locations originally before it morphed into an online cruise site

10 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

I've always enjoyed the discussion forums. Before BZ started most of the hookup sites had discussion forms that is actively participated any, few currently have them (Squirt is the only one Im sure still has one) at all all and none that I know of are still active.

I also found it interesting that, there are gay dating sites/apps (I assumed there were), but guys either aren't reading or understanding the purpose and try to use them as hookup sites, the inverse of the guys posting dating type profiles and ads on sites like BBRT and Sniffies which are very clearly geared to hooking up. Why is it so difficult for us to sort this out and use appropriate channels, there would be a lot less signal interference if we did. I know @rawTOP has hopes of creating a hookup site someday, maybe he needs to create a sibling dating site, and make their purposes clear enough that users can sort it out and place appropriate profiles on one or both sites. It seems like they would both be more successful if we could accomplish the sorting.

Squirt has a discussion forum? i've been on Squirt for a long time, but never noticed a discussion forum? All i know about is the chat feature, which most hook up sites have?  i've actually had lots of hook up success on Squirt, especially since the demise of CL (RIP).  

And YES, i too have been bemused by guys looking for serious relationship on obvious hook up sites. or worse, have a morally superior air about them, as though hooking up is beneath them (only if they're Top, eh?). 

i get seriously frustrated on the sites intended for dating... especially when guys hooking up get offended by someone looking for a date or relationship. i know i can't be the only guy out there who'd like to have a relationship or more than a text exchange, but i have a hard time finding guys who do. 

BZ is the only community i know of where gay guys, or guys who love guys, have full length, transparent conversation... about anything and everything.

Most gay sites are for hook up only. Even sites where the designer is apparently trying for a dating or conversation type format, turns into a hook up site.  i'm on one site in particular that is such a place, sort of a gay version of Match.com, with over 125k members. There's room for lengthy, detailed profiles, but i'd estimate fewer than  1/3 of the members take the time to write (or read) a profile. There's also a place for pics and vids, and most guys only look at those. Gives the impression that the gay community is made up of kindergarteners who cannot read and only look at pictures? It's almost comical how many guys grouse or resist taking 5 minutes to read about  or attempt to get to know a person, but will spend hours looking at cock pics disconnected from any semblance of humanity.   One commonly reads a "profile" that says: "no endless chat or emails,"  (which i read as: "i have no interest in communication").   i don't find many (read "any") gay communities where it's okay to write more that a five word sentence, where i'm not part of a minority of guys talking openly about life.  

Many gay sites have chat rooms where one can be swept into a stream of endless, mindless blather. Or, again, soley a hook-up format. Here? Guys can come here during refractory  and write about the fuck they just had. i know of no other place where we can do that. 

20 minutes ago, faggot4play said:

i love being in a cage....as small and flat as possible

 

me too!!. i only wanna wear one if it's connected to a Top Who wants me caged. i feel cages are both physical and psychological . i've read of guys who were "caged" by tying a pink bow around their penis, the idea being that the "cage" is in the head. 

Cages that contain the penis, sort of on display behind bars are a type, and the type you describe physically internalizes the penis.  The latter is more fitting for my psychological wiring. i do not perceive myself as having a "cock."  To me, a Mans Cock is a penetrative organ He uses to penetrate, fuck, inseminate, dominate, impregnate, possess, etc., with. i don't have one of those.  

When the body is developing in the womb, we all start out as female, then hormones cause the ovaries to descend and become testicles in the case of a male. i see myself as something in between, so internalizing the penis with a micro has a dual effect for me, physical and psychological. i love a dynamic where my Top sees and  wants me that way, it's very affirming and intimate. 

7 hours ago, blackrobe said:

What kind of surgery? It's great he's able to breed.

He has epilepsy got a deep brain stimulator. 

On 4/14/2024 at 3:28 AM, ktopper said:

A hot gay ass does it for me. I've sometimes had trouble cumming when balling women. Never have that problem with guys.

A bottom I used to fuck once handed me a handwritten list of his desires and preferences, which I mostly ignored, me being me. One of his preferences was "no kissing." I positioned him on the edge of the bed (his sister's bed, he was house sitting) and asked him "does no kissing mean here too" as I kissed my way up and down his fat dick. That seemed to be OK for him so I began kissing my way around his sexy bubble butt while asking "or here?" That also seemed to not be a problem for him. I then zeroed in on his hole and asked "or here?" as I worked my tongue into his ass as he moaned with pleasure. He started begging me to fuck him so I slid my cock inside him and pulled his head up and kissed him slipping my tongue, fresh from his ass, into his mouth. He went absolutely wild and came almost immediately. That set me off and I followed soon after. We became fuck buddies and he never again presented me with any lists of HIS desires.

marry me?

my sweet FB had brain surgery, He's been outa commission for awhile, but He made up for it today... i think He may have  cum more than once, couldn't hold Him all in. 

4 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

You can get into almost any hole, but it isn't fun if you can't get the bottom to enjoy it too.

which makes You an awesome Top imo.

i remember when my hole was tight... i think i was about 7. i can still squeeze, but i'm not tight after a few thousand fucks. And even my ability to squeeze can get pounded out of me. 

i did try to get into a tight hole, but i went flaccid trying to fight the tight, but i think most of that is psychological, i'm total bottom and i was doing it for a virgin because i didn't want to him to have a bad first experience. He liked it well enough, but i suspect that's because he had nothing to compare too. i suspect a Total Top can get into any hole. i see part of a Tops nature as a hole conquerer.  Just like a bottom who'll receive any Mans cock in need, i'm sure there are Tops Who have a "no hungry hole refused" attitude.

On 5/2/2024 at 3:45 AM, ktopper said:

I love to rim although I am a little bit picky about it. I think I am good at it. At least that is what bottoms tell me. Maybe they might be lying about it but I don't think so.  I like rimming almost as much as I love fucking male ass. Strangely enough while I enjoy eating female pussy I have never rimmed a lady's ass. Maybe I should try it just to see how they react. When it comes to guys I absolutely love making out with a hot ass before I fuck it. If there is a load or three in said ass already it is a bonus. My tongue slips right in and there is nothing in the world better than the taste of cum and ass together. Just typing this has my dick rock hard. I really need a piece of ass, the wife (in name only) is gone for a while so I am on the hunt starting tomorrow.

This is profound to me, hit's so many notes in me at once, but very harmoniously.  No, i don't think they are "lying," i think even in the absence of affirming words, part of what energizes You is the experience and fulfillment of Your desire/need in the response of the person You are rimming.  As i see it, rimming for You is another form of "fucking."

my sense (which may be wishful thinking lol) is that Your  being "a little bit picky" is about the depth of connection? I.e., Your pickiness is about the reason You want/need to rim in the first place.  That "picky" is about finding Your opposite equal in intent/desire/need.

 In my terminology, my attempts to explain this stuff, put it into words, Your tongue and mouth are "Cock."  i have experienced Tops where They are so focused and connected, that Their finger, toys, words, a look, can all be Their Cock... and i have been "Cocked" by them in all those ways and more.

i have this very involved notion of what "cock" is, way more than a physical organ between the legs, that a Mans Cock is the energy, desire, need driving and expressed through the physical. But loot to  experience a Mans cock beyond the penis. Correspondingly, my 'hole' is way more  than a physical opening in my ass or face. 

i know i have written this in other places on BZ, but some of what constitutes a Top/Dom to me are: "Cock, penetration, fucking, molding, creating, orgasm, breeding, seeding, marking, inseminating, impregnating, possessing, controlling.... " to name several.  For me, bottom/sub corresponds to Him. yin to HIs Yang (no really new concepts here lol): "hole, penetrated, fucked, molded, creation, orgasm receiver/holder, bred, planted, marked, inseminated, impregnated, possessed, controlled."  

Okay... if it's not obvious, that title was written tongue-in-cheek.  i'm sure it exists, i see it in movies, read about it. i even see profiles of guys claiming to want relationship on gay sites, and only half of those are obvious scammers.

i know i've broached this topic on BZ before, so please forgive another similar post, but BZ is the only gay site i know of that has a forum/discussion setting where gay guys actually have serious discussion.  Which is kinda ironic for a site dubbed: "Breeding Zone."  i actually know of no other gay site where guys actually discuss and communicate at length? If there are others, help me out, i'd like to know. There are chat rooms, but those are to me are awful, usually a constant blur of un-substantive  three word sentences. 

Is there such a thing as a gay meeting site that is not dominated by guys only wanting to hook? Don't get me wrong, hooking up is great, but the hook up scene for gays is already well covered online, is there such a thing as an online place where gay guys socialize and maybe even romance each other? Or is that just a fictional notion? 

10 minutes ago, hntnhole said:

You always "get it", don'tcha ..... 

During covid, I allowed it for the sake of the buddy who I was getting through covid with.  We trusted each other not to expose each other to covid, so it worked for a couple of sex-starved piggies.  For some incomprehensible reason, he really wanted to fuck me, and he had a very modestly-proportioned dick, but it did nothing for me; it was a "grin & bare it" situation.  Given the circumstances of the time though, it was just accommodating a friend/fuck buddy.  Desperate times call for desperate solutions, eh? 

Well, my "get it" i think it has to do with our very compatible wiring from opposite poles. We do synch on an awful lot <3.

Awhile back, maybe 2 years now? idk, i sorta fucked a guy. One of about half a dozen guys i have ever fucked in my life (and i'm in the >5000 cock club when it comes to bottoming).  i saw his profile on Squirt and my heart went out to him as a virgin bottom looking for his first experience. Add to that he was a student from a repressive culture in a country where gay people get killed.  i didn't want his first experience to be a bad one that would scar his soul, so i offered being very open about who and how i am. 

It was a pretty funny experience, and sweet too. He really was obviously virgin, didn't have a clue and was starved for touch and affection. my penis works fine, gets hard as a rock when a Top or Dom is saying all the things that hit my bottom/sub buttons. Mention using my penis for penetrative purposes? It just sits there. So i really had to psych myself... and took some viagra. Still, that barely worked. Especially since he was so tight. i got maybe 2/3 in, but not much fucking happened. Partly because i had to spend time letting him get used to it (and that was after liberal time spent lubing, fingering and opening him first). i did suck him and he came twice, so he was pretty happy, but any experienced bottom would have to have been sorely disappointed in the fuck. 

Not something i see myself trying again. To me, the psychological part is just to important, even if not acknowledged or discussed, i can feel the energy of a Man Who needs/wants to fuck, and i can feel the energy of a man who needs/wants to get fucked, and that is just too vital of a component for me. i'd rather go without than pretend or just do something mechanically.

i'm total bottom with some sub thrown in, but my sub parts only respond to a certain kind of Dom. Force, bullying, meanness are total turn offs for me and shut me down, a subtle, affectionate Dom opens me deeply and my sub part cannot do enough to please Him.

i explain that because my 'bottom' wiring perceives any kind of penetration as top, even rimming.  For me, rimming is one of the more subtle ways a Dom can open my hole and my soul, it can be very hypnotic for me to be rimmed and a very possessing thing a Top or Dom can do to open me for possessing. lol i'm a mind fuck kinda guy.

When a Top likes to get rimmed? Again, depends on the Guy.  i do love a Total Top Who doesn't like Their hole touched because they perceive that as bottom. i love the psychology of that. But i have been with Tops Who love to get rimmed and have found that when They are obviously enjoying it, my response to Their pleasure kicks in and the sub in me takes over to Their intense pleasure. i do love a Mans ass, so that part is not an issue. i do a lot of kissing, licking and biting along with it, it's not just concentrated total rimming. Love a Mans thighs as well, so i can get into the hole region, as long as the mood is right. If i perceive any kind of bottom from him, the connection gets lost for me though... no top in me.

i am attracted to opposite dynamic, for me there's a lot of mind fuck to it, Total Top/total bottom, Younger/older, Smaller/ larger, etc..  Mixes that defy stereotype.

Butt, for me, at the root of it is desire, lust. my type is a Guy Who can openly and unabashedly express His lust. Forceful, bullying feel compensatory to me, like they are trying to prove something or make me want them, which is a total miss on their pari, a disconnect.  Confidence vs presumption. Lust vs force. Someone Who is willing to be vulnerable with Their lust fucks and impregnates my soul. 

There's several threads on BZ discussing the "second hole."  It's not an actual sphincter, it's the sigmoid curve, butt to the bottom and Top, pushing into it feels like penetrating another sphincter because of the resistance. One of my favorite reasons for a Man getting there is, to me, it's the impregnation spot. When a Man breeds me there, His seed stays and gets absorbed. Here' a pic of what is being encountered. ❤️

my energy and lust is linked to the Top, when i feel His desire and lust, mine kicks in. i don't really feel exhausted until after i stop. Edging without cumming also keeps me amped up.

i won't deny i have specific taste in Men, but when i see the look of hunger in His eyes, or He simply tells me He wants or needs to fuck... then eyes me as a possibility, pretty much everything else goes out the window.  

i met a guy a few years back in Palm Springs. Visually, my favorite part of a Man is His ass, which is always ironic to me because pretty much the only things i do with a Mans ass are touch, maul, kiss, lick, rest my head on, and sigh a lot. i can 'worship' a Mans ass right along with HIs Cock, i'm just not a penetrator.  So this guy would not have turned my head, He had lost His legs in a childhood accident and they were amputated all the way up to His ass, so He had no ass to speak of. He cock seemed sort of reconstructed too. But He messaged me and wanted to fuck, explaining His situation ahead of  time. i am around different people all the time, i'm a critical care nurse, so i've learned that different is just different, not "disabled."  (no one has every ability, so in a real sense, we are all abled and we are all disabled). We had a great time together.

 But again, my on button is a Man wants/needs to fuck, at that point, not much else matters to me... my switch is flipped by that and i'm presenting. Honestly, my desire runs at the surface,  if Men had any idea how much i want them..... 

i do love verbal, but only if it's real, spontaneous. If it's contrived or rehearsed, it's a turn off. If it's a genuine expression of lust or need? Hell yeah. 

Force, bullying are a turn off. When a Top knows how badly i want Him though and says so, that is a total turn on. i love when a Top tells me He is going to cum, in all it's forms: 
"I'm coming, I'm breeding you, take My load, do you want My load?, there's so many ways, but the point is His expression of lust/need.

From me? i make a lot of moans and sighs, all involuntary, it's as if the Top is fucking those things out of me.  A lot of the words that come to mind are incoherent lol. There are some Guys Who fuck in a way where i feel Their control and ownership, a sort of taking possession in a non forceful, but undeniable way. i've had complete strangers fuck me that way and have had to literally bite my mattress to keep from telling them how much i love them. And yeah, it's the L word that wants to escape my lips. 

6 hours ago, bbzh said:

A couple of years ago, I was at a naked sex party in Berlin at a very popular bar. At one point, I encountered this rather tallish guy who could not walk properly due to what seemed to be a physical deformity. His face and arm were twisted. He was also making sounds (moans and grunts that I did not deem to be sexual) that seemed to suggest he could not speak properly and was living with an intellectual disability. He obviously was green lit to come in. He had a nice body and was getting plowed bareback continuously. I was quite conflicted by the scene. After I got over the initial shock, I hoped that he was at least able to look after his sexual health. However, the longer I witnessed it, the more I was starting to find the scene hot. I was in a position where I could have fucked him but chose not to. The entire episode reaffirmed what I believe about the nature of (some) men. If presented with the opportunity to do something, with no way of being held accountable, would they do it? Hell yes. I felt that by watching this all happen, I was becoming numb to what I was witnessing and almost finding it acceptable because others were doing it. This is why I try to avoid exposing myself to anything (eg porn) or situations (in real life) where it's not clear parties are consenting adults.  Do I think most of those guys who fucked him would have fucked him under any other circumstances? No. But as I say with many things in life, when luck, preparedness and opportunity intersect, anything can occur. 

i appreciate that you thought and wrestled with this.

The one thing that stands out to me is "he was obviously green lit."  i'm guessing that he made the choice to come to the sex party and found a way to get there and be there. To me, that shows choice, desire, need. Also, if he was "getting plowed bareback continuously,"  my guess is he had prepped for the occasion, which is another expression of desire in my book.

idk... i subscribe to the spectrum theory of human sexuality, and i think it's more than linear, it's multidimensional, and human sexuality is complex. i was married to a woman for half my life, we fucked often and i played the role of top in the relationship.  i was tied into a straight identity because of religious conditioning, but the fact that i had sex with a woman, didn't ever make me straight (even though i tried to be straight for a long time), and the fact that i played the role of a top, didn't ever change my being wired bottom. 

Words,  labels, are never the thing, they are descriptors we use to try and convey a message, in this case, who and how we are.  If this Guy perceives himself as straight and that's what He is conveying to me, then i'm going to take Him at face value.   i'm not connecting to His identity, i'm connecting to His lust/need to penetrate, fuck, have His pleasure and orgasm inside of me and leave His seed inside of me. Those four things outweigh any notions or thoughts i might have about Him being straight or gay. 

If we're talking romantic tangle? Yeah, i'm going to give thought to His identity as a straight.   To me, that means there's a barrier to connecting on other levels, and i would not want that barrier in a lover.  If it's important to Him to maintain that He's straight, it's telling me He is not 100% available for a romantic, loving relationship.  The truth is, i don't find that kind of open availability  from most guys identifying as gay either.  i'll receive what's wanted/needed from either, i love connecting with a Man as much as i can.

i'm pretty much total bottom and  fucked  a guy once in 15 years. Maybe about a year ago a guy approached me on Squirt. A sweet university student from Iran stating he wanted to be fucked for the first time.  Despite being bottom, i find a guys ass is the most visually beautiful part of his body, and his was no exception.  And he really felt like the real thing, a virgin and a babe in the woods. i didn't want his first experience to be a bad one, so i ended up picking him up at university housing and bringing him to my place.  

As noted, i'm very bottom wired. i get hard as a rock when a Top wants to penetrate and breed me, but i stay soft at the prospect of having my penis used, especially for fucking.  So i told him i might not be able to perform and i popped a viagra before picking him up.  i did manage to get hard enough to penetrate him, but he was so tight, even after rimming and fingering him for quite some time while i was sucking him. i laid him on his back, used a liberal amount of lube. He never complained of pain, but the whole time i was trying to get in without hurting him, he had his eyes shut and was pushing back against me with his legs. He was fighting it and begging for it at the same time. i managed to  get about half way in, but i couldn't stay hard enough to penetrate his fighting hole. Well, that and it was just super tight.  i sucked him off and he was really happy with his first experience, he hits me up regularly. i haven't hooked with him again, but we remain friends.  He's a totally sweet guy. i'm just not top.

As for my own hole?  It sometimes hurts if a Guy just shoves in without lube or is exceptionally large, but i don't have an ass pucker anymore, i have a slash that has been molded by a few thousand Tops to receive cock. i can squeeze and milk with my inner muscles, but access is not an issue, and i never squeeze when a Man is entering me. If He wants to penetrate me, i want Him and am open. i think that's a big part of it, if a bottom is nervous or inexperienced and clench, their hole will naturally tighten. Part of opening is in the head, not in the hole. 

i'm only the third to respond to this, so am curious to read other responses. 

my ideal orgasm is the one a Man puts inside of me and it's based on mutual need/desire.  When i am getting bred regularly under the aforementioned parameters, i do not need or want my own orgasm. 

But, lol, i don't always have that. So i will often go a long time, days... maybe 10? edging, before i will finally release the tension and cum. It's not any one fantasy, but the elements are similar. It's never about me actually having or using my "cock."  i have a penis, but i don't relate to having what i perceive as a "cock," that is wired for penetrating,fucking, breeding. i'm total bottom, so i'm wired for receiving all of that and more.  

So, if i do masturbate, it's because i haven't had a Mans orgasm inside of me in awhile. my need/desire is for His orgasm inside of me, but if that is missing, masturbation is about quieting that tension of desire/need that i have for Him,  not about pleasuring myself.  While having my orgasm feels good physically, it doesn't meet my needs/desires as a bottom, that can only happen when a Man orgasm's inside of me. So, the kinds of fantasies that get me rock hard are never about me having or using a my penis, they are always about a Mans desire/need to cock me. And, yeah, that generally works, though i am always disappointed after... it's never fulfilling or satisfying, just temporarily reduces the tension and need for a Man. 

7 hours ago, londaybaaz said:

What gratification tops get in fisting or gaping of their bottom's hole, because it is not directly involved in releasing of their sexual energy

i think our sexuality has myriad expression, infinite even.  As a bottom, i get gratification from my Top and i believe the opposite is true as well. i think our sexuality is a more complex expression of basic nature. At the base of nature, there are atoms, protons, electrons, neutrons. It's not a perfect example, but i see those as roots of the more complex sexual presentation of Top, bottom, versatile.  

When there is 'chemistry'  oppositely charged protons and electrons naturally attract, connect, bond. i think the same is similarly true about Tops, bottoms, versatile. There's not just one result of those attractions, there are innumerable expressions of those bonds.

As a total bottom, one of the things i love is when a Top wants to open, mold my hole. To me, it is another form of fucking, inseminating, impregnating. Those are all ways a Top can put His mark, claim territory, possess, occupy. To me, fucking with the penis is just one of many ways a Top expresses what i see as Their "Cock."  To me, "Cock" is way more than a penis. Part of my being 'total bottom' is i have a penis, but i don't have a "Cock." i don't have the needs/desires and resultant energy and expression that a Top has, my needs/desires/energy and expression correspond to a Top as an opposite, a "bottom."  

The desire/need that i have for a Top is expressed and experienced in the things mentioned above, and in so many ways, not just in His putting HIs penis inside of me. When that connection and bond happens, it involves the exercise of my sexual energy... and His.  

We're all different, but i have connected with Men who absolutely experience a release of Their sexual energy by opening and molding a bottom. Orgasm, is just one expression of sexual energy as i see and experience it, and  as many of the Tops i have been with see and experience Their corresponding sexuality as well. 

On 4/8/2024 at 11:57 AM, hntnhole said:

When I kept that cumdump a few years ago, he always called me "Daddy" - still does, for that matter.  But I never called him merely "boy", which, to me, seems de-humanizing in some way.  I just called him by his name. Sometimes it would be a conjunction of two words, ending in "boy", but never just "boy". 

I didn't need to reinforce my power over him in that way.  

^^this^^

Words can be used to try and convey how we feel or think. Word's can also be used i a compensatory way, to try and create a feeling or support a notion/thought.  When it comes to my sexuality, i prefer the former over the latter. my sexuality is real, not something i play at.