Is bareback a fetish?

[Bbikercub]

I was just having a little think about this the other day. Some guys have fetishes for leather, rubber, bondage, boots etc.

What I wanted to know is, do you guys view barebacking as a fetish or not?

In honesty I'm not sure what I think yet, part of me says it is a fetish or at least has been fetishised. The other part says no it isn't, it's natural sex how it's supposed to be. There's nothing kinky about it.

So, to the floor....

Discuss!

[einathens]

i don't think it is, technically. a fetish is for an object. a kink is for an activity.

to me, the fetish is for semen and barebacking is the kink that produces it.

[mspButtMunch]

Google says a fetish is "A course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment." Given that, I'd say yes; I think.. All I know is I love BB sex and I'm committed to it...

[Guest diapbttmboi]

I'd say so. It's a damn addiction is what it is.

[PhoenixGeoff]

I actually spoke about this with an older guy I used to play with, who was around before the whole HIV/AIDS thing took off. He objected to calling barebacking a fetish because when he came out, it was just your standard, normal sex. Everybody did it.

I think the cutoff is for guys around my age. I was told to use condoms right from the very first guy I hooked up with. The porn I saw at that time always had condoms. There were articles in the local gay newspapers (geez...remember those?) talking about how hot putting a condom on your partner was. This huge effort to make it so that you would never even consider bareback sex.

And so the barebacking thing was kind of a reaction against that. I actually thought there was something wrong with me, that I was the only one who didn't really like condoms. Discovering guys into bareback sex for the first time online was a real eye-opener for me (it was the #gaybareback channel on IRC; I was looking for cowboys!)

So, yeah, it wasn't always a fetish. But it sure is now.

[wood]

IMO, its not.

Even given the various definitions of what a fetish is, I dont think it works.

Lets face it people bareback because it feels better. Even the term "bareback" didn't really exist until after aids when it was deemed to be a fetish because of the risk. Even with that people take risks all the time, and most dont say they have a fetish for it, they call them risk takers. That being said all people gay or straight probably prefer bareback sex. Most peoples mothers probably prefer it because it just feels so much better. I dont think many would say that a guy who is straight and prefers unprotected sex with woman to have a fetish. Additionally I dont think people would say that a monogamous gay couple having unprotected sex would be called a "fetish"

All that being said, there are different ways of having bareback sex that could be termed a fetish, for example, having anonymous sex with random partners I would call a fetish.

[wood]

I actually spoke about this with an older guy I used to play with, who was around before the whole HIV/AIDS thing took off. He objected to calling barebacking a fetish because when he came out, it was just your standard, normal sex. Everybody did it.

So, yeah, it wasn't always a fetish. But it sure is now.

But see this is why I still dont think its a fetish. Im 29, so Im not the age of the older guy, but i still see it as just sex. Vanilla sex protected or not is still just sex to me.

[Guest faggot hole]

It's not a fetish. It's a way of life.

[Guest]

not a fetish for me... it's the only way i take it up my ass

[PhoenixGeoff]

But see this is why I still dont think its a fetish. Im 29, so Im not the age of the older guy, but i still see it as just sex. Vanilla sex protected or not is still just sex to me.

Hmm...well let me put it this way. If it wasn't a fetish, would the whole bareback porn industry exist? Would BBRT exist? Would this site exist? Look at all of the guys on here who make a huge deal about taking a top guy's load in their ass. Look at all of the closeups of guys fucking that conspicuously don't show a condom (and look at the condom porn that does its best to hide the condom).

Now, compare that to porn from the '70s. There's nothing like the closeups of the fucking. We don't see guys pulling all the way out to show clearly that they're not wearing a rubber before slamming the cock back in. We don't see internal cum shots and cum dripping out of the bottom's ass. Back then, porn stars routinely pulled out to shoot their load so we could see it.

I'll grant you there are a few guys out there like you who don't care if the sex is with or without a condom. But I think you're a minority. From what I see, most guys like you are usually pretty adamant about using rubbers because the rubber doesn't detract from the pleasure, so they lose nothing and gain quite a bit of risk reduction. It's guys like me, who have made barebacking into such a big deal, who have what I'd consider a fetish for it.

[einathens]

condom use is learned bahavior centered on a particular object. i'd say that it's the fetish, but a generation of social pressure made it percieved to be the norm and bareback sex, the abberation.

[GermanFucker]

Hmm...well let me put it this way. If it wasn't a fetish, would the whole bareback porn industry exist? Would BBRT exist? Would this site exist? Look at all of the guys on here who make a huge deal about taking a top guy's load in their ass. Look at all of the closeups of guys fucking that conspicuously don't show a condom (and look at the condom porn that does its best to hide the condom).

Now, compare that to porn from the '70s. There's nothing like the closeups of the fucking. We don't see guys pulling all the way out to show clearly that they're not wearing a rubber before slamming the cock back in. We don't see internal cum shots and cum dripping out of the bottom's ass. Back then, porn stars routinely pulled out to shoot their load so we could see it.

But for the younger generation this is already changing. If you look at sites like Chaosmen or Sean Cody, they're almost completely bareback but without the fetishistic stylization (Brooding music...."oooh, come join the brotherhood", camera closeups to the point of pointlessness) of some other bareback porn. In many ways bareback is indeed becoming the new normal.

It is for me (which is also why I often enjoy CM or SC more than TIM).

I believe that there is an important distinction. While almost every aspect of sex can be fetishized (which of course plays a role for the porn industry, as they are under the constant pressure to come up with something "you can't get at home") I don't think something is necessarily a fetish PER SE, if it concerns the core of the sexual activity (the evolutionary imperative one could say in a heterosexual setting). To use an example from the straight world: Yes, some guys have a fetish for giant, unnaturally huge silicone tits. But the fact that most straight men like nice big breasts is completely normal. So is wanting to shoot a load in a guys ass. It's just the natural way.

[wood]

Hmm...well let me put it this way. If it wasn't a fetish, would the whole bareback porn industry exist? Would BBRT exist? Would this site exist? Look at all of the guys on here who make a huge deal about taking a top guy's load in their ass. Look at all of the closeups of guys fucking that conspicuously don't show a condom (and look at the condom porn that does its best to hide the condom).

Now, compare that to porn from the '70s. There's nothing like the closeups of the fucking. We don't see guys pulling all the way out to show clearly that they're not wearing a rubber before slamming the cock back in. We don't see internal cum shots and cum dripping out of the bottom's ass. Back then, porn stars routinely pulled out to shoot their load so we could see it.

I'll grant you there are a few guys out there like you who don't care if the sex is with or without a condom. But I think you're a minority. From what I see, most guys like you are usually pretty adamant about using rubbers because the rubber doesn't detract from the pleasure, so they lose nothing and gain quite a bit of risk reduction. It's guys like me, who have made barebacking into such a big deal, who have what I'd consider a fetish for it.

Good, you actually made my point for me! Almost anything can be made to be a fetish, and for those individuals there is this forum, bbrt, etc. Also IMO people that tend to only want bareback sex are still in the minority, the membership numbers for sites like A4A or gay.com vs bbrt spell that out loud and clear.

Porn is a whole other matter, again compare it to straight porn. Straight porn rarely uses condoms because guys dont want to see them in what is supposed to be a fantasy. Gay porn is pretty much just catching up on this. The whole "creampie" craze that is happening in porn right now is just another example of fetishizing a normal unprotected sex act. Hell ask most of the members on here, if a guy came in his ass, they would KEEP it in their not push it onto the sheets.

IMO its important to distinguish the base act of something from the ancillary ways that people may use that act. Lots of couples gay or straight everyday have unprotected sex, as well as ALL of the animal kingdom. But there is a big difference between that, and bragging about how many loads one has taken in a night.

YES bareback sex can be made into a fetish, but the act in of itself is NOT a fetish.

[wood]

But for the younger generation this is already changing. If you look at sites like Chaosmen or Sean Cody, they're almost completely bareback but without the fetishistic stylization (Brooding music...."oooh, come join the brotherhood", camera closeups to the point of pointlessness) of some other bareback porn. In many ways bareback is indeed becoming the new normal.

Exactly,

http://www.myvidster.com/video/7178335/Freaky_Ass_Landon_Fucks_Leiv

The link is one of my favorite porns, why? because its a normal hot porn with two great looking guys having hot sex, and the scene flows well. One thing i always disliked about condoms in porn isnt that they were there, but they would cut out the part when they put it on so they pretended like it didnt happen. In this video you see what happens more in reality, two guys are getting hot and heavy and one just starts the fuck the other one. Simple, and more so how is this video show an act thats a fetish?

[NHSoccerjock]

Its not a fetish no.. how is doing something thats natural a fetish? if anything, condoms should be considered a fetish.