DarkroomTaker Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 Hi, just asking if anyone knows how from July. UK citizens access pornsites. Not sure how this will affect my access to this site due to UK laws. What will we need to do? Thanks When does the ban start? The porn ban isn't far off – it starts from July 15, 2019, the government has said. That means that from this date, those trying to access a porn site from a British IP address will be asked to provide "proof" that they are aged 18. For example, using driving licences, or age verification cards bought from retailers. The automatic block is being introduced under the Digital Economy Act 2017. Quote
AirmaxUK Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 Might be a good time to look at VPNs before there is a rush... 1 Quote
spankie Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 All that I know about the UK porn restriction laws is that the company providing the verification also run various porn hub sites. Basically those sites are a haven for stolen/pirated porn and the owners don't care as they make money from it. They've also had some security issues. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't trust them with details like my driving licence. It'll either be hacked and stolen or someone will sell it. VPN might be the only way to go. If it still gets rolled out. 1 Quote
Guest Cumlaut Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) These people are the 2nd biggest buzzkills. (after security douchebags on the door at saunas) How many times will I need to enter the fucking code, lol Edited June 16, 2019 by Cumlaut Quote
DarkroomTaker Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Posted June 16, 2019 14 hours ago, DarkroomTaker said: Hi, just asking if anyone knows how from July. UK citizens access pornsites. Not sure how this will affect my access to this site due to UK laws. What will we need to do? Thanks When does the ban start? The porn ban isn't far off – it starts from July 15, 2019, the government has said. That means that from this date, those trying to access a porn site from a British IP address will be asked to provide "proof" that they are aged 18. For example, using driving licences, or age verification cards bought from retailers. The automatic block is being introduced under the Digital Economy Act 2017. @rawtop, Hi RT, can you advise us please? Thanks Quote
parrot10 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 wasn't aware of this, sounds like the thin edge of the wedge , wouldn't give out personal info who knows what agency will get hold of it.1984 here we come Quote
DarkroomTaker Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Posted June 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, parrot10 said: wasn't aware of this, sounds like the thin edge of the wedge , wouldn't give out personal info who knows what agency will get hold of it.1984 here we come Yeah P, I think it only affects the UK people. I won't give out personal info either.Not sure what to do though. Quote
parrot10 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, DarkroomTaker said: Yeah P, I think it only affects the UK people. I won't give out personal info either.Not sure what to do though. Not sure either or how far reaching its going to be.Just have to wait and see Quote
AirmaxUK Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 3:55 PM, AirmaxAndy said: Might be a good time to look at VPNs before there is a rush... So, I've had a couple of people ask me if I can recommend a free VPN. The answer is that I can't: they have to cover their costs somehow and as far as I can see the only way to do that is to charge money for the service, so to provide a free service they'd have to do something like log your activity and sell that data to cover the costs - thus negating much of the point of using a VPN for privacy. Personally I am not currently using a commercial VPN - I have my own VPN server at home which I use when travelling so I can use UK only services like BBC iPlayer etc while abroad. If and when the block this, I would consider a commercial VPN and the place I'd look for information is the Wikipedia VPN comparison page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_private_network_services Which one to choose really depends on what's important - speed, level of anonymity, etc. As I've said, I really would avoid free services as you have to ask how they are going to cover their costs, and the only leverage they have is your traffic and trust... Andy. 2 Quote
reded Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 Right, apologies if this gets a bit dry, but for anyone who is interested, here is my understanding of what the porn block is, how it works and how it might affect your access to this website. Don't ask me WHY we're going down this road in the UK because I haven't got a fucking clue. WHAT? The 'porn block' is what we're calling the regulations brought in under the DEA (Digital Economy Act 2017) that mandates websites which provide commercial pornographic material implement an acceptable age verification procedure before being able to access the pornographic material. Commercial pornography (which can be stills or videos, not sure if written erotica is covered) also includes material that is provided for free on websites that earn revenue from advertising or providing access to premium extras. It applies to all websites worldwide being accessed within the UK. If foreign website operators want to continue being accessed by users in the UK, then they must comply. WHO? The BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) is the organisation chosen to oversee/interpret/decide which websites will be classed as commercial porn websites; and also decide what is an 'acceptable' age verification system. This is the same organisation with resposibility for age-rating all commercial film and video, and deciding which porn films are allowed to be sold in licensed sex shops. Its also the same organisation that used to reject (therefore banning) porn films with fisting or piss (and even female ejaculation, which they didn't seem to believe was a real thing). Not only will the BBFC decide which sites are pornographic, but they have also been given the powers to force ISPs to block access to the wesbites that they've decided aren't adequately age-screening users OR (and this bit might be pertinent to breeding.zone) are providing access to extreme pornography. So even if a site is compliant with the age restriction stuff, if they have any content deemed to be 'extreme pornography' as defined in the CJIA (Criminal Justic and Immigration Act 2008). HOW? To date, the process of blocking websites in the UK has involved the courts forcing ISPs to block access - and this is done by tinkering with the DNS (Domain Name System). The DNS is the wordlwide way of translating nice wordy website addresses (like "breeding.zone") into the numeric IP addresses that computers use to contact the server on. When you put breeding.zone into your browser, your computer checks its own little address book to see if it already knows the IP address of the server, and if it does it gets the website content from the right server. The trouble is that your computer's little address book only holds on to these addresses for a short period of time, so sooner or later (or if its the first time you try) you'll type breeding.zone into the address bar and your computer won't know the address of the server. So... this is when your computer will put a request out to a DNS server asking to lookup the address. Because this request is not encrypted, your ISP can see every address your computer looks up, and it is spots you asking for a domain on the banned list, instead of letting the request go through, theyll bounce it back to your computer with the wrong address (usually, the wrong address you get directs you to a webpage saying the website is blocked). BEATING THE BLOCK? By using a VPN (Virtual Private Network) you can theoretically open a private connection to another computer elsewhere (like outside the UK where the regualtions won't apply) and connect to the wider internet via that machine/network instead of your own ISP - so your DNS requests would not go via a UK ISP and be restricted. There is also a push from some of the browsers (Firefox and Chrome, I think) to encrypt the requests your computer sends to DNS servers, so your ISP wouldn't be able to snoop on the URL and decide whether or not to block the request. See article on MelonFramers. BREEDING.ZONE? I can't predict the future, and it is entirely possible that breeding.zone will never gain the attention of the BBFC. BUT, if it does, I think (and this is just my own opinion, I'm not involved in the regualtory process at all) that the BBFC will probably deem it commercially pornographic, and very possibly might deem it to contain 'extreme pornographic' content. It will all hinge on exactly what content the site provides - a link to a porn video might not be covered but embedding the same video might. If someone posts a pornographic photo in a forum, that MIGHT be enough to class this as a porn site. The trouble is that this is new, and there is no precedent about how the law should be interpreted. I have seen the BBFC tend to interpret things very strictly (because otherwise they have moral crusading journos and toady politicians after their blood). Just look at how (to our everlasting shame) we Brits ridiculously over-reacted to the so called scourge of 'video nasties' in the 80s (side note, cunts that were casting their vote in the 1980s are still casting their votes today, and can still direct public policy). STAY WOKE? There's no prizes or excuse for ignorance, keep abreast of what is going on out in the world. Are we all on this site because we're living in denial and ignorance and thikning we'll never have a problem if we bareback? No, we've looked and listened and learned about all the risks and are going out fucking raw knowing fine well what problems might occur and we still want it raw. The MelonFarmers is a great website for news about censorship (and other ways that no-fun fucking puritans might want to curb our enjoyment of life next, like banning local sex clubs) and I totally recommend it: http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/ 1 3 Quote
Spunkinmyarse Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Stop press: it looks like the implementation of this plan is to be delayed indefinitely because of a technicality. A statement to this effect is expected to be made in Parliament today, so keep watching. 2 Quote
DarkroomTaker Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Posted June 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Spunkinmyarse said: Stop press: it looks like the implementation of this plan is to be delayed indefinitely because of a technicality. A statement to this effect is expected to be made in Parliament today, so keep watching. Thanks Spunkin. Hope so. Quote
reded Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 agreed - here's hoping to keep on kicking it into the long grass until one day shelving it. It's already been postponed numerous times - It was originally supposed ot come into force in May last year, then they were put back to the Autumn, then it was put back to early this year, and then 1st April this year (a somehow apt date for this idiotic policy), then mid July and now..... who knows? But while we can celebrate about it not touching foreign based sites like bredding.zone we should spare a thought for those poor UK based pornographers that have to implement the costly, boner-killing, age verification regulations anyway even though the block isn't coming into force yet. Quote
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