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This may be a dumb question - but since there are so many bottoms that are willing to take raw dick, and barebacking isn't terribly risky for tops - how in the hell do safe sex bottoms get dick? I can't imagine strict safe sex bottoms get fucked all that much... Why would a top put on a condom when he could go raw and there are so many bottoms willing to take his load?

If you were a safe sex bottom not all that long ago or you have friends who are safe sex bottoms who talk to you about their sex lives - I'm curious to hear whether safe sex bottoms actually manage to get dick. It's gotta be A LOT harder than it is for bareback bottoms.

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actually theres plenty of tops who swear by the condom. For several years I used condoms (altho found myself fantasizing about doing it raw) and never really had trouble hooking up with a top who wanted to / agreed to use a condom.

I guess once you kinda fall in love with barebacking you start losing the ability to understand why anyone would ever even choose to use a condom. there are also a lot of misinformed people out there. While it's possible to contract std's while topping bare, it's less likely than when bottoming...now what they taught my generation in school is: IF YOU DICK TOUCHES THEIR NAKED SKIN ANYWHERE EVEN FOR A SECOND YOU WILL DIE OF AIDS. haha guess the scare tactic didnt work out so well on some of us :)

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I think it varies from region to region, culture to culture. It is only since joining this site that I became aware that BB Tops are at only slighter greater risk of HIV infection than safe sex bottoms ( based on data supplied by rawTOP ). I don't think that info has seeped very far into the larger gay community yet, so there are plenty of safe sex Tops around ( at least in the U.K. ). I had plenty of sex when I was a safe sex bottom.

If the data supplied by rawTOP becomes more generally known, I think it has major implications for the future of barebacking. In a gay population where bottoms outnumber true Tops in a ratio of around 8:1, Tops get to set the rules. Once Tops realize that BB Topping is relatively low risk, many may decide that it's a risk worth taking. Look how many guys smoke or drive fast cars. In a situation where bottoms compete for the few Tops available, bottoms who enjoy getting fucked regularly will learn to give Tops what they want. I can see BB becoming the norm given those pressures over time.

  • 1 year later...
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This may be a dumb question - but since there are so many bottoms that are willing to take raw dick, and barebacking isn't terribly risky for tops - how in the hell do safe sex bottoms get dick? I can't imagine strict safe sex bottoms get fucked all that much... Why would a top put on a condom when he could go raw and there are so many bottoms willing to take his load?

If you were a safe sex bottom not all that long ago or you have friends who are safe sex bottoms who talk to you about their sex lives - I'm curious to hear whether safe sex bottoms actually manage to get dick. It's gotta be A LOT harder than it is for bareback bottoms.

They're the guys whose lives play out like a Sean Cody video. They get laid SOLEY based on their looks. And it's usually by small dicked tops that can't fuck--but are drop dead gorgeous.

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have been a safe bottom for years. i get fucked A LOT. have never had a problem getting fucked and im not a guy who is in real good shape. I do get guys wanting to fuck me bare but for the most part, the tops bring condoms to fuck.

im actually surprised how often i get laid

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Probably not difficult. I don't bb with new guys and quite frankly don't meet guys that bb regularly (only fuck bb with trusted friends) and to differenciate between bb and people that use condoms, I always ask bottom if they bb, and I never have any problems finding a bottom that doesn't bb

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I think it varies from region to region. In the Fort Lauderdale/Miami area, most tops seemed to just expect bareback (condoms weren't discussed, it was just assumed we'd fuck bare), and I don't really remember any tops insisting on condoms (some tops wanted to see a recent Neg HIV test before going bareback though).

Up here in MA, barebacking is more taboo, and a LOT of guys will run away screaming if you even ask them about fucking bare.

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While there are certainly too many bottoms out there for my taste, real bottoms who truly enjoy sex and getting fucked aren't all that common. Plenty of tops here insist on a condom or are willing to use one.

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Was thinking about this thread a bit, I would assume the reason i have no problem finding TOPS to fuck me safe is that i prefer married or "straight" and always seek them out. Being married i want it safe, they must too.

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actually theres plenty of tops who swear by the condom. For several years I used condoms (altho found myself fantasizing about doing it raw) and never really had trouble hooking up with a top who wanted to / agreed to use a condom.

I guess once you kinda fall in love with barebacking you start losing the ability to understand why anyone would ever even choose to use a condom. there are also a lot of misinformed people out there. While it's possible to contract std's while topping bare, it's less likely than when bottoming...now what they taught my generation in school is: IF YOU DICK TOUCHES THEIR NAKED SKIN ANYWHERE EVEN FOR A SECOND YOU WILL DIE OF AIDS. haha guess the scare tactic didnt work out so well on some of us :)

You hit it.

I used condoms since I was 18 and just stopped recently. I got plenty of dick and got fucked plenty of times safely. I would be overcautious sometimes and check the guy and make sure he was wearing a condom. Even when I barebacked with trusted partners I still would only use condoms for others and enjoy it and get plenty of sex. Maybe it's just my area but it's pretty much 50/50 with condoms bare. Most guys do prefer bare but won't admit it. But there are enough in my area that live it bare. And the ones with the condoms...there are a good amount of men who wear condoms always and don't have a problem with it. But there are also a lot who use condoms but wish they did not but do it anyways and bareback maybe every full blue moon.

I do think back now and wonder how I ever enjoyed it with the condoms. I did get stealthed twice though now that I think about it. I don't think a safe sex bottom will ever go through life without getting stealthed once.

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I am in Berlin right now for Folsom. Although I am mostly bottom, I become versatile around other pigs.

Last night, I went to fuck this cub and he reached for a condom. I said no and walked off. Minutes later, I bent over and was fucked raw by a daddy type. The daddy later fucked the cub raw. I thought hmm the cub has faulty logic. He is afraid of my dick but the daddy's dick is ok even if he doesn't know where it's been? LOL

I had another bottom ask me to rubber up. I also said no. Then I fucked two other bottoms raw and gave them both loads.

As long as there is another bottom a few feet away willing to take my bare cock, I will never wear a condom for a bottom no matter how hot he is.

  • 4 weeks later...
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I get fucked much more often bareback than I did when I practiced safe sex. However, I also go to more places were bareback sex is the norm.

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i doesn't make much difference to me. i'll happily fuck safe if i'm into the bottom, but usually only if they ask for it. i don't tend to fuck as long when sheathed because it doesn't feel as good. that said, in the last year, i've picked up a fair share of non-hiv stds barebacking, mostly from guys under 25. i've been to the doctor this year more than i have in the last ten years. it is expensive and time consuming, and calling all the guys you've fucked recently to deliver the news isn't so much fun. after a particularly difficult case of oral gonorrhea i've thought more recently about going safer again.

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Depends on the demographic. In college, everyone I fucked or got fucked by always had condoms. It wasn't even a discussion. In my experience older guys are more likely to want to fuck bare. This may not be true in general, or in other places, but hell if I told myself 5 years ago that I would let a hookup fuck me bare I wouldn't believe it.

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i got top buddies i known for years, that BB all thier life..neg still...amoung those neg bb tops i know, they all make sure to piss after sex...clean it out. It must make a difference. Tops that poz, some get it from a cumfilled pig, others abrasions, etc.. Bears and older guys fuck bare more i think..cuz we been there and got tired of fucking in a plastic baggie..

I started BB at 19 -not exclusively- but by the time i was 22 i was going mostly raw.

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