FDA going after Poppers in US

[Guest]

Stock up on your poppers. The FDA is coming to get them. 

 

Lots of articles out there today. 

 

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/07/07/nitrite-poppers-heres-why-fda-warned-against-their-use-for-fun-sex/amp/

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by CumdumpDad

[Oldercumslut]

Typical fluff piece.  Although everything said in it was true, the way it was presented.

The one death that I know of was of a guy who was on BP meds, took 100 mg Viagra and then huffed Poppers.  Instantly had no blood pressure, collapsed and went into cardiac arrest.  The death was attributed to Drug Misadventure.   Wasn't the Poppers themselves it was the layering of medications on a person ho probably wasn't healthy to begin with.   The Viagra and Poppers is a bad combination.

They have been targeted for awhile, just took them long enough to come up with some data to support their already pre conceived ideas.

Shouldn't bad Popper, should bad stupid people.

[Oldercumslut]

p.s. The other death was someone who drank a while 40ml bottle of it.  I wasn't directly involved in the case but the Poppers were credited with her death.  I just can' imagine popping down a bottle like I'd chug 5hour energy drink.

[menenius]

Well maybe it's just a question how much the poppers producers are willing to bribe, with opioides they didn't have problems........its all about the money . 

[Guest]

59 minutes ago, menenius said:

Well maybe it's just a question how much the poppers producers are willing to bribe, with opioides they didn't have problems........its all about the money . 

Isn't it always? With everything. 

Edited July 8, 2021 by CumdumpDad

[BootmanLA]

5 hours ago, menenius said:

Well maybe it's just a question how much the poppers producers are willing to bribe, with opioides they didn't have problems........its all about the money . 

It's true that money was the driving factor with opioids, but not because of bribery of regulators. They were developed to meet a legitimate need (pain management) while concealing evidence of their heightened addictive properties from medical professionals. The regulators approved them for those legitimate needs. The problem was the addictive nature combined with pushing physicians to prescribe them for almost any sort of pain issue.

Last I checked, there was no legitimate medical need for poppers. I'm not for banning them because I'm not for banning most recreational drugs, but there's literally no comparison to be made with actual medically useful drugs.

[fskn]

My position will be unpopular, but I agree with the FDA's warning people against taking unregulated, non-prescription vasodilators during sex, often in combination with alcohol and drugs.

Of course, a ban wouldn't work (which is why this garbage was once labeled as VCR head cleaner and is now labeled as a nailpolish remover, apparently).

Maybe, however, the manufacturers should be forced to submit random batches of their products for testing on a periodic basis, at least to ensure that all of the chemicals in the bottle are disclosed on the label. A cigarette-style warning message should also be required.

Of course, the freedom to market products that are harmful to people's health, without restriction, is a uniquely American freedom.

[ErosWired]

3 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

The problem was the addictive nature combined with pushing physicians to prescribe them for almost any sort of pain issue.

Last I checked, there was no legitimate medical need for poppers.

Check again. There is no evidence that amyl nitrites produce physical or psychological addiction. This is noted by several credible sources if you do a simple search on poppers and addiction.

The well-accepted legitimate medical uses of amyl nitrites - as in accepted by the Mayo Clinic and others - include the treatment of certain heart conditions as a vasodilator and relief of pain from attacks of angina, and as an emergency antidote for cyanide poisoning.

So not only are they not addictive, they do have legitimate medical uses, and can be prescribed by a doctor.

There are also perfectly legitimate uses for the substance aside from its effects on the human body, including as a cleaning agent. They are used, for instance, in the cleaning of printed circuit boards - I have used them myself for this purpose.

I am not in favor of banning substances on the grounds that they have “no legitimate use” because “legitimate” can mean anything a zealot wants it to mean. No substance is in and of itself good or bad - people simply apply such labels to mask judgments about human behavior.

Edited July 9, 2021 by ErosWired

[ErosWired]

1 hour ago, fskn said:

My position will be unpopular, but I agree with the FDA's warning people against taking unregulated, non-prescription vasodilators during sex, often in combination with alcohol and drugs.

There is a difference between using the power of a government agency to disseminate factual information in the public interest and using the power of a federal agency to regulate, limit, or deny public access to something. The first instance empowers citizens in the exercise of their personal agency; the second abridges their personal agency and freedom. In the United States, at least, we expect and require our government to exercise the latter authority sparingly and only at great need. We don’t always make the best individual choices - but at least they are ours to make.

Government is at its best when it helps us make our best choices, not when it makes them for us. So I also have no problem with the FDA issuing a warning about the hazards or poppers. I would not look favorably upon an effort to ban them as “garbage”.

Edited July 9, 2021 by ErosWired

[BootmanLA]

17 hours ago, ErosWired said:

Check again. There is no evidence that amyl nitrites produce physical or psychological addiction. This is noted by several credible sources if you do a simple search on poppers and addiction.

Nor did I say there was. I said that was the problem with *opioids*, as should be clear from even a cursory reading of the quote you made. I have no problem with someone challenging what I write, but I do not take kindly to people inventing things, pretending I wrote them, and then shooting them down. 

[evilqueerpig]

Showing my age here...Paul Lynde overdosed on poppers.

[Close2MyBro]

Tried poppers once. All I got was a really bad headache. Never tried them again.

[ErosWired]

5 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Nor did I say there was. I said that was the problem with *opioids*, as should be clear from even a cursory reading of the quote you made. I have no problem with someone challenging what I write, but I do not take kindly to people inventing things, pretending I wrote them, and then shooting them down. 

I beg your pardon, you are quite right. I should have read your post more carefully, especially as I thought that what I thought you were saying was uncharacteristic of your usual posts. My apologies.