HotDaddy Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 I was around pre AIDS and HIV when all one had to worry about was getting clap, syph etc. Then came GRID (Gay Related Immuno Deficiency) later to be renamed AIDS when they found it in heterosexuals. Then they found the virus HTLV1 which became HIV. No condoms were used it was the way to have sex. Then one started seeing their friends get HIV and die horrible deaths. Waste away to nothing. Porn companies wanted to sell porn so most reluctantly started to use condoms. Gradually bareback became a nich market with porn stars taking risks. Initially we were led to believe the porn studios tested the guys. Later that changed as guys became HIV+. We then got the thrill of wondering if the top was poz or neg, was he putting charged cum into the bottom. The fantasy of not knowing was great. As time went on more porn stars became poz and TIM and SX used poz on poz. Some so called neg pornstars have told me they did not know they were being fucked raw by a poz top. The studio was supposed to match them up with neg tops. My point is evolution. We now like to see poz cum go into a hot ass. Be shot on the hole and pushed back in or in the case of BBRT shot inside and pushed out. Guys like to see a bottom felched and have the cum sucked out of his hole. If we did not want this the studios would not make the videos. Bareback is what we want. I do not consider it raunchy. To me raunch is scat and bleeding. I like to fist as a top and take loads bareback as a bottom. I have seen it all in my 72 years of life. I am a lucky one to still be alive after seeing most of my friends of the 1970s and 80s die. I do not like the feeling of condoms. I will allow a top to use a condom on me if he insists but I do not like it. I only do it if it is the only way I can get the dick. To me bareback porn is not raunchy. It is the way to go and TIM, SX and other bareback studios are doing the right thing. Just my two cents worth.
Guest arguy Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 I don't think bareback porn has to be raunchy, but I think some raunch makes it better. I love bareback porn set in dark rooms with slings and piss play. I especially like how the present day bareback porn puts so much emphasis on the breeding scene and after so many years of everyone being preached to about using condoms the act of cumming on a bare ass and pushing it in deep is very erotic and taboo. Since we live in a world in which HIV is a reality, I think the "taboo" aspect of bareback sex is exactly why bareback sex is raunchy and thats also what most likely sells the most DVDs.
PissPigBrooklyn Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 Well I like sex to be raunchy and I like my films raunchy but not all the sex I have is raunchy though thank god it has lately all been raw. I agree that a film where they start by using a condom but then shuck it in the middle would be hot (and mirror an incrdible fuck i had in boston a year ago this weekend) but I wonder if it wouldn't run into even more censorship problems than other bareback.
VersRawPig Posted November 26, 2011 Report Posted November 26, 2011 personally i'd love to see more porn where the fact they're actively not using condoms is more of an issue... rather than just fucking raw, i wanna hear them actually talking of not using condoms... Fuck...same here. Been looking for this for years and it's almost impossible to find. I guess guys are too shy about using that kinda language. But for me that's what it's all about. Something like "yeah...you like my raw unprotected cock inside your manhole?" Stuff like that.
pulszer Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 doing ti with out condoms with a random guy in a sauna is pretty nasty though
PissPigBrooklyn Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 I want to see the film of pulszer having sex ~oink!~ but I agree with ILovepIe and a few of the others here i would love to see a film where condoms are available but the guys reject using them. I suppose this would cause even more cosntrenation in the anti bareback crowd!
HolePunchSD Posted September 1, 2012 Report Posted September 1, 2012 IDK, seems like what you're looking for is a tall order. I wouldn't really want to hear my porn stars "discussing the idea of going raw", that to me would almost seem preachy and clinical. I would go limp instantly. Kinda like when everyone in porn HAD to wear condoms so the movies had to spend atleast 3 minutes demonstrating how to put it on and how it wouldn't change the sex--it did! Seems to me that the kind of porn that you're looking for is both European and Latin. With both, they feature attractive young men engaging in bareback sex and some of it is pretty vanilla. Lots of porn out of Brazil is filmed that way. And of course, like everyone mentioned, Bel Ami has really captured that market too.
spike-the-cat Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 I hear you HolePunchSD. The only director who was ever able to make scripted dialogue for porn stars work was Joe Gage--and even for him it was hit and miss. But simpler scenarios would be hot: The top reaches for a condom; the bottom grabs it out of his hand and throws it across the room. The bottom hand the top a condom; he takes it and puts it on the bottom's dick as he slides his own into the bottom's ass. Or he just sets it, unwrapped, on the bottom's stomach. Or the bottom is on hands and knees, passing the condom back, and the top tosses it, unwrapped, right in front of the bottom's face either right before or right after he slides his dick home. The top starts to roll a condom on; the bottom pulls it off. No big discussion. No dialogue. But in all of them an exchange.
pigskintop Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 Usually I watch Dick Wadd, TIM, or HDK. I like masculine men and the dialogue is usually idiotic. We really don't need a story, we just want hot action.
Leather69 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 arguy @ 17 summed it up well. Sex sells..posters on here and other sites are totally over mechanical sex and are looking for something more stimulating. There's a market and companies are meeting that market and we are paying the $'s or pounds or euros etc to watch it. A bit like paying subscriptions to various pick up web sites.
time4mynap Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 i agree. just because i prefer it raw doesn't make me a pig. i'm not into kink (though fisting is starting to be curiosity-piquing), but i do dig verbal, hard & rough to slow & sexy, just good man-in-me action. all the other shit just seems like filler to me, a distraction from the main events.
JoshLandaleXXX Posted September 6, 2012 Report Posted September 6, 2012 I hear you HolePunchSD. The only director who was ever able to make scripted dialogue for porn stars work was Joe Gage--and even for him it was hit and miss.But simpler scenarios would be hot: The top reaches for a condom; the bottom grabs it out of his hand and throws it across the room. The bottom hand the top a condom; he takes it and puts it on the bottom's dick as he slides his own into the bottom's ass. Or he just sets it, unwrapped, on the bottom's stomach. Or the bottom is on hands and knees, passing the condom back, and the top tosses it, unwrapped, right in front of the bottom's face either right before or right after he slides his dick home. The top starts to roll a condom on; the bottom pulls it off. No big discussion. No dialogue. But in all of them an exchange. These types of exchanges are exactly what I'm talking about... not so much verbal as this can be off putting - but visual - kinda like where not using a condom is made a significant part of the scene.
dtguy_367 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Posted September 7, 2012 I agree with the guys that are looking for porn where they talk about not using a condom or where the top convinces the bottom to go raw. I seen a couple of scenes where the condom breaks and they decide to keep fucking anyways. Fucking hot. Or when a guy insists on a condom only to have the top secretly take it off during the scene. These are the fantasies I have and would love porn movies to add these elements. There are regular movies like "Little Boy Blues" with Malcolm Gets where he is with a really hot guy and had the condom in his hand and you can see how he's thinking he should use it, but the guy he's with is so hot, he chucks it on the floor. Part of going bareback is the element of it being wrong. That's what's kind of thrilling and exciting. Im neg and when I know I shouldn't be doing it raw, that's what really turns me on. I wish that could be portrayed in a movie. An older top that talks a bottom into going raw, insisting he's clean, all the while knowing he's poz and even has a visible bio hazard tattoo. Anyone else agree that this could be hot?
NiceHard1 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Posted September 7, 2012 check out factory videos. they have some good twink stuff that is not as harsh
kpig Posted September 18, 2012 Report Posted September 18, 2012 70's gay porn was raunchy because it was seen only in bookstores and adult theartes then in the 80's they shifted and tried to make it more "artistic" in order to bring it more inline with the gay communties effort to become mainstream and the adnvent of home video i myself who did some porn in that age believe that gay porn should always be bareback and raunchy
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