Now that Elon Musk owns Twitter…

[ErosWired]

36 minutes ago, kinkatx said:

Free speech is a myth in the US. The FBI will show up at your door if you threaten to do harm to people. We might as well better define the laws. No constitution amendment is without limits. 

It’s not that free speech is a myth - it’s that so many people in American society now misunderstand the concept of ‘freedom’. Freedom isn’t the right to do or say whatever you want whenever you want. Freedom is the right to act responsibly without interference. The problem arises because so many people now speak and act completely irresponsibly. Threatening to harm people is not responsible speech in a civil society, and naturally doesn’t fall under the category of ‘freedom’. It’s reckless and antisocial behavior. Of course the FBI checks it out, and we want them to.

[BootmanLA]

2 hours ago, kinkatx said:

Free speech is a myth in the US. The FBI will show up at your door if you threaten to do harm to people. We might as well better define the laws. No constitution amendment is without limits. 

They may well show up. They are not going to arrest you, however, simply for what you said. They will only arrest you if they determine there is probable cause that you committed a crime - for instance, if you have made preparations tied to such an attack.

As ErosWired noted, the FBI has a responsibility to investigate threats. Investigating is not the same thing as arresting - it's what they do to determine whether an arrest is warranted.

[kinkatx]

Racism is still not taken seriously enough imho.  I grew up around republicans that were ready to cause genocide. Most militia in Texas pose a significant threat for domestic terrorism and we’re doing nothing about it. They’re free to be a threat to everything our nation protects.

 

I’m leaving the US for at least 10 years… I don’t see a path towards restoring democracy that doesn’t involve 50 million casualties. Good luck! 

[hntnhole]

Well, good luck to you too, kinkatx.    

But I'd rather you stay and fight for Equality, Justice, and Democracy.  We can right the wrongs, if we - as a nation - determine that it shall be so.  

[kinkatx]

2 hours ago, hntnhole said:

Well, good luck to you too, kinkatx.    

But I'd rather you stay and fight for Equality, Justice, and Democracy.  We can right the wrongs, if we - as a nation - determine that it shall be so.  

I’ve been making that argument my entire life and now our rights are directly in the line of fire again I’m opting for a more peaceful existence.
 

I only see two likely outcomes, the conservatives attack our cities and kill millions or we get through the next 10 years and someday the people take up arms against the rich because poverty reaches a breaking point. I’ll probably be too old by then to be of any use, except stand in the way. I do believe I will still be able to vote in Texas from Spain and I will probably continue to contribute to the DSA. 

I have the means to leave and be much more comfortable! I will keep fighting, but I will do it from Barcelona where there are real leftists that might listen not to mention MUCH more actual freedom and better infrastructure for it’s people than the US will ever have. 

I hope you bring a peaceful end to the failed “great political experiment” and ratify a constitution that provides actual freedom, equity and equality to ALL. America has never for a moment offered freedom to all its citizens, it’s history is full of oppression and violence despite its best intentions. You have the constitutional (and very leftist) right to replace your government peacefully or with force and I think that would be the best next step in protecting our nation’s values. At the very least: End gerrymandering, the two party system, the oppression of socialism and add ranked voting and a multiparty system or better yet ; split the country into 5ish unions PNW, Rockies, Central, South and NE… (Alaska, Hawaii, and providences can join any of them or become independent) Regionally these states have much in common and could self-govern more affectively than our current union.