Should I take it raw with this guy?

[cockfun69]

Monogamous men are as rare as unicorns.
Guys need and love a variety of men.
Many guys will NOT do repeat sex.
Many guys will say what they need to get YOU to have sex.
(Sometimes with chems.)
BTW it's quite an achievement to have got him to actually meet up from an app instead of chat!
You're not the first guy figuring out the rules of the jungle and the types out there.
Enjoy!

[bbbear2000]

On 8/13/2024 at 1:57 AM, soki said:

I’m a 28 bottom guy, shy and with little experience with sex. In fact, I had anal sex for the first time with 26y lol

The guy was good, about 48y and fucked like crazy, the best sex I have ever had - we fucked with condom.

I met him on a dating app and it seems he’s constantly there usually and fucks around a lot for all I know - to the point later on I was relief to not catch anything from him.

The case is, recently I have been having urges to have sex, and to have something intimate, to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside me and enjoying it. And I happened to encounter again this guy on the dating app recently after 1-2 years: I asked him, he says he is down to meet again to fuck and breed me, that he doesn’t have any STI and is on PREP since last year.

And now I don’t know what to do - if let my urges control me, go and enjoy a ride with this guy until he fills me up and impregnates me, or just pass and wait for someone with whom I can be more comfortable on the long term, assuring myself of not catching anything (HIV, Chlamydia, Gono, crabs, whatever)

 

so that’s the decision to make: go with him (because I don’t consider meeting for condom sex, also, I don’t trust myself meeting and not going full crazy “please, remove the condom” in the hotness of the moment) or just wait until a more “trusty” guy appears (fuck buddy, BF… someone you really know is tests and free of STIs and isn’t fucking around).

 

Right now I’m going crazy, on one side rationing that he seems a good guy and if it’s on Prep then it’s all good, at most getting something that can be treated - so I can go to town with him until he shoots all he wants in me. On the other hand, something in my mind is worried about catching anything and thinks is better to wait “for the right guy” with which I can be safer.

 

What would you do? What’s your POV? Thanks

Best off going with getting yourself on prep then on top of that find a less sexually experienced guy that u find attractive and take it slow with him in safe sex until u trust him. If he ends up as a bf or fwb and u r able to trust him after he shows u up to date results and he also gets on prep then you should be safe enough to do bb sex. I'd also suggest sticking with guys closer to your own age as older men usually mean more experience and not all men tell the truth about being clean and on prep or meds as clearly shown in news reports in the past and online these sites.

[danolivaw]

Are there any side effects to PrEP?

[BootmanLA]

2 hours ago, danolivaw said:

Are there any side effects to PrEP?

There can be. The two active ingredients in oral PrEP are identical (or virtually identical) to some of the ingredients in HIV treatment, and in some cases, there have been negative effects on the kidneys and liver. That's why people on either PrEP or HIV treatment need regular bloodwork done to monitor for issues like that.

That said, most people take PrEP with no known ill effects. And there are other versions (like a bimonthly injection) that for now appear to have even fewer side effects, so if oral PrEP proves problematic, there are very likely alternatives.

[soki]

Thanks you all on this topic for your POVs and opinions. Yeah, I know about Prep, I was doubting about it (a already had my checkup done when writing, just waiting to start on it, doubting about if it would be worthy to take it daily without having sex daily/weekly, because side effects and so on)

But then, I discovered the “Prep on demand” on Google and thought: so, can I just take PREP for some days, enjoy this one-off, and if on the future go full casual sex bareback, just start again daily? Prep can be taken without having to adhere to it (respecting the takes when having sex of course)? I didn’t know, so I jumped on it.

I went and took the pills from the pharmacy - went home and immediately took 2 pills instead of 1. Next day I again took 2 just to be sure, and texted the guy, so you wanna meet? I need to be bred, I’m horny 😄

He said yes, but to wait for the next day, in the evening after work. I said OK.

STORY COMING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED NEXT, IF ANYTHING IS INTERESTED

Next day I took only 1 pill that time, and went off to his place. I knew he isn’t man of talking (outside sex) so when I arrived, he was just waiting with the door unlocked and, when I opened it, there he was on the hall with only some briefs, looking me up to down and up, and vigorously touching his cock - “wow, how tall, I didn’t remember exactly how were you lol - are you ready? Suck it” as he quits his briefs and shows me his semi hard cock

I start sucking his balls and then licking the cock, when I get to the head, it’s already hard. By then, all my nervous thoughts disappeared and I went to town. I was there like 10 minutes sucking, when I started to deepthroat a bit - he was like “wow”, put a feet on a near seat, both hands on my head, and started to try fucking my mouth until I couldn’t stop gagging - when I couldn’t take it anymore, he would stop some seconds, I would take a breath, and couldn’t resist coming back to sucking his head, which he took every time as a green light to mouth fuck me again until I couldn’t stop gagging again - we repeated this about 5-10 times

Then he just said: come here, and got me into a bedroom. Told me to get everything off me (I only kept the jockstraps I was wearing for the occasion, bought recently just for this lol - I didn’t want to touch my dick, just feel being fucked raw, enjoy it. He was OK with it. Asked me if I had a preference for position, I said either riding him or missionary as it would be easier to start I think. He said OK, put me on the bed looking up, and started rimming my hole for some 5 or so minutes, it was heaven. Then put a bit of lube, and started to put the head in, without saying anything. He started to enter me and maybe it was the hot situation, I was just feeling pleasure from the start.

He was fucking me with a good cadence, I had my hands grabbing his highs while he was fucking me, me looking up, back on the bed, my ass on the cliff of the bed, and he on his foot, standing.

About 10 minutes in, I was just on pleasure, moaning a telling him how good it was, while he was just going to town, until he started to go a bit faster, grabbed my “male boob” and went “oh boy, oh boy, I’m gonna cum, I’m gonna cum, aaaarh” and he came inside, I just felt a little little bit of the cock “pulsing” inside, if that makes sense. He kissed me, pulled the cock out of me lol, and went to grab some toilet paper to clean my hole (lol)

After that, he was just chill with me, and I was just there, like: “well… I’m not leaving if you don’t tell me to leave…” haha. He asked me if I wanted to drink water, coffee or something, I said no, he came back with the briefs on, and told me if I wanted to cuddle a bit before going back home - I said yes

While cuddling, I was still very horny, and took the conversation to the sex. Asked him if he enjoyed it (yes) and asked him if he usually did cruising or did a lot of others guys (no! Why do you think that! LOL) - after a while, he just admitted that yes, he’s a slut for fucking ass, I ask him about STDs then, if he ever got, that I wouldn’t mind… at first he was really annoyed (almost thinking he would send me home) but ended up saying that yes, he was poz, and that he was until some months ago undetectable, but went off meds because he thought he could and the meds were affecting him in other ways (didn’t explicit how) - he said he would say being clean and neg to not scare guys (that’s why last year in theory he told me so) but now, that he’s probably “toxic”, he’s just like don’t ask don’t tell - that’s the story he told me, I didn’t 100% buy it, but whatever.

I told him I was ok with it, that it was his life, that the important thing was to enjoy the moment and so on. He asked me if I was OK with knowing him being poz and possibly toxic, while me being neg, I said that sure, that it even turned me on (I supposed he was turned on because of it, so I said that to test waters)

He was “really? then don’t come back crying at me if you get something from me, are you neg?” I said yes, that I was tested. He suddenly asked: do you want to fuck round 2? I said yeah, come on

This second time I sucked him a bit but went far quicker into anal. Missionary style this time him also on the bed. I could tell (maybe because it being the 2nd round) that he was able to go faster, and lasted about 10-15 minutes. While fucking me, sometimes, randomly, would slow the rhythm and make harsh penetrations (IDK how to describe it? Like pulling the cock 90% out and then boom, all in full speed, like trying to take a wall down inside my ass lol) I would especially moan when he did that

In the last 3-4 minutes he started to do a bit of what I call “poz talk”, asking me if I was enjoying it, telling me he was marking me as his, that he would knock me up for sure, “do you want to take my poz cum inside you, do you?” I said yes, and suddenly he collapsed over me, keeping fucking me like crazy, and this time started to kiss me like he was possessed, like he was trying to eat my mouth/tongue literally, it was an insanely hard moment where I was overwhelmed with this harsh kissing and the fucking - it was heaven. He started to make a gwrr sound and came inside. He just stopped but kept the dick inside will kept kissing me more slowly, the kiss at this point was a full of spit mess over my mouth, and we were enjoying it. It was like if he was also trying to “penetrate and fuck me” with his tongue on me mouth and getting my mouth full of his spit.

2-3 minutes after he separated a bit, looked me in the eyes without saying anything, smiled, and collapsed, back in bed, by my side. He was wasted, and he told me so lol. He was like “I needed that” lol

This time I went for the toilet paper to clean a bit (and god lord, just in time to avoid making a mess with a sudden fart I didn’t expect to be that liquid), clothed myself, said goodbye, and left him on the bed, naked, flaccid and smiling a bit.

Since then, about a week ago, we’ve fucked 2 more times, but more “normal”, like the first fuck, not this second - still, a bit of poz talk when reaching climax seems to be his thing

To this moment he seems to not care/want to talk about anything STD related, what I mean is, he didn’t ask me if I was on prep or anything, so I wonder what must he be thinking about our deal, but whatever, we’re enjoying it for the moment, so whatever

[easyyy03]

Since you've hooked up with him a few more times, are you still taking Prep on demand or no?

[soki]

On 8/23/2024 at 7:28 AM, easyyy03 said:

Since you've hooked up with him a few more times, are you still taking Prep on demand or no?

Yep. One pill daily now, only took two pills the first two days (one day before sex, and the same day)

Since then, I haven’t jumped one day of taking it, and I was thinking of just keep going like this at least until he stops fucking my brains out

Just today we hooked up again, but I asked him to take a pharmacy “at home” mouth HIV test, because he says doesn’t like the idea of testing and I insisted him a wanted to know if he was undetectable or no, after being fucked by him 4 times by now (and he doesn’t know anything about me in prep)

The two lines of the test came bright as the sun and early lol - he was like, yeah, whatever, let’s fuck haha.

To be honest, the sex is good, very good, he’s what I imagine must be fucking with a porn actor or something, is crazy good, but I think I’m gonna end up cutting this deal soon, because I don’t like all his aura of “IDK about STDs” and don’t tell too much. I’m protected from his HIV, but who knows about if he will give me other things easily enough on the near future.

I think I would be more comfortable with a guy more transparent you know? IDK

But for the time being, at least for this weekend, I’m gonna try to make him discharge all he’s got into me and fill me lol

Edited August 24 by soki

[greo]

Do you think he's intentionally trying to knock you up?

Btw: home tests are for antibodies (whether he was ever infected), even undetectable guys will test positive on those.

Edited August 25 by greo

[stillbreedin]

saki: wait until the time seems right.  do not take it raw unless you are prepared for consequences.  if/when you are, then go for it.

[soki]

3 hours ago, greo said:

Do you think he's intentionally trying to knock you up?

Btw: home tests are for antibodies (whether he was ever infected), even undetectable guys will test positive on those.

IDK exactly what he’s thinking, but I have already thought about that, that he must be into trying to knock me up

But On the other hand, I also think that maybe he’s just that basic as in, we want to fuck, let’s fuck and your decision are yours, I don’t care about you on prep or getting anything or whatever. IDK.

Anyway, for sure he has some kind of pozzing fetish, because the second time we had sex the day I described earlier wasn’t normal, it was incredible, like he was possessed, plus the way he sometimes fucked, entering harsh in me, and the poz talk when he was nearly cumming, it was clear he’s into it. But maybe it’s just a fetish and nothing too “real”, IDK.

I didn’t know that about those test! Thanks for the info. Anyway, I think I must suppose he’s toxic, because him without meds for some time, it’s the most probable scenario.

I have no problem with him being toxic, because I can be on Prep for the time we fuck, what’s getting me is him fucking with a lot of other people (like for real, I’m just 1 of maybe 5-20 guys it appears can end up fucking on any given week) and not caring about anything, so he could still give me gono, syph, or who knows, at any time, and don’t care about it - probably even not telling me about it - that’s the worst for me about him.

I’m OK with a fuckbuddy to fuck around, but I would hate him having any other STD, knowing about it, and still not saying anything and give it to me. And given how he treated all the “yeah, I’m poz”, I think he wouldn’t say he has gono, syph or other things to me even knowing about it. Who knows if he would be even turned on, if he’s into STDs transmission or knocking up or whatever

its a difficult decision, because I like him a lot (he’s super hot for my liking, a real daddy) and the sex is the best I had until now, but IDK if I should keep being with him

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, soki said:

its a difficult decision, because I like him a lot (he’s super hot for my liking, a real daddy) and the sex is the best I had until now, but IDK if I should keep being with him

That's a call only you can make.

I, personally, wouldn't want to have sex with someone who doesn't monitor his own sexual health. But again, that's me, not you.

[soki]

UPDATE:

I decided to stop seeing this guy and just wait for another better one to play the FWB game

after meeting the weekend, I chatted with him a bit to “know him better”, even if he’s usually anti-chat (old school, doesn’t like to talk that much)

I told him that I really liked him and wanted to know what was he thinking about “out thing”. Not as in boyfriend or anything, but just as a deal, as a fuckbuddy deal. 
 

Long story short (he usually needs A LOT of time/long convo to come to honest terms, he’s short on words and you have to work hard to get his point lol), he says he also likes me, and that he likes I’m not judgemental about him and also usually just to the point, because he usually doesn’t like all the talk talk talk game with guys.

I say that OK, that I’m fine with it and so on and therefore we could work something out to be more casual and therefore avoid being with a lot of other guys, a bit more FWB comfortable and avoiding risks being with a lot of anons and so on

He says that he would be OK with it, but then, says to me that he wants to ask/say me something and just to be openminded, that it’s something he wants to know about me.

He asks me if I would be OK being poz, and if I would be OK with him at any time pozzing me, because it’s a matter of time. I wait to write because I see the “Writing…” thing, he continues saying that he would be more comfortable on the future, if going forward with a “you’re my only one” fuckbuddy deal, for both be poz, no fears, just pure natural sex without anything else, worrying, testing and so on. He really prefers to fuck poz guys than neg.

Ans also tells me that that doesn’t mean he doesn’t enjoy fucking a neg guy and that he would enjoy pozzing me on the future if I make the decision, that is something good, not to worry, it’s liberating.

Thats a bit his deal to be able to “compromise” with someone and so on.

Not only I’m not into that and want that, but at this point I find he’s being manipulative to get whatever he wants. Do you enjoy more poz guys than negs to be comfortable? That’s why you “dont ask don’t tell” and get off being poz verbal when fucking? Yeah bro, sure.

Also, my status means you would enjoy me less going into a more closed deal? Suddenly my ass would be more enjoyable if I were poz?

I’m OK with playing with poz guys at this moment, since I got into PReP and tried with this guy, my mentality has opened a bit about how things and risks work. Also, that for sure out there are a lot of U=U guys better than this crappy person.

This is a very very short version, but really, it came clearly to me he was just trying to manipulate me into doing what he liked and not worrying about lying or emotionally manipulating if necessary.

At the end I told him I think things wouldn’t work for us, he changed his attitude to the one of “you’re making this, please no, we’ve a good deal right now, you come, we fuck, you go off, that’s it” - I said again, he asked me to come to his place to talk in person better, I said no. And about 30-60 min of keeping me on read, he said literally “OK” and that’s it.

Sorry you all, that this story came so early to an end and on this anticlimactic, dramatic way, but I suppose the future will bring me more enjoyable guys to be with, right?

Anyway, I think this was just a learning experience and better to know what happened than to never get to do it and wonder “what would have been like?”

Also, at least, I got good 5 sex sessions, so that’s OK I suppose lol

Thank you everyone for your messages, support and opinions.

[hntnhole]

15 hours ago, soki said:

I suppose the future will bring me more enjoyable guys to be with, right?

Absolutely it will. 

This experience should make you proud of yourself, in that deciding for yourself what you want, and not allowing some other guy pressure you into what he wants could be called "a defining moment" in your life.  It's your decision what to do with your body, how to do it, and good for you for having the courage to back up your decision.  

[cman54]

I think you should go see him at least once when you are not on the prep to see just what you will do and how it will feel to be with him.

If he does get his dick in you it may surprise you as to how it will feel then and what your body wants.

[gimpsub69]

On 8/13/2024 at 4:50 PM, BootmanLA said:

I think you can distill all this down to:

1. Men lie. Not "all men", but still. They lie about being negative (last test: six years ago), they lie about being on PrEP (they are, but they miss doses), they lie about being undetectable (they were last testing, but they're forgetful about taking their meds every day). It only takes a guy being ONE of this kind of liar to put you at risk.

2. So get on PrEP yourself - and take it according to the directions. That way, it doesn't matter if the other guy is faithfully taking PrEP, tests regularly, or whatever: you are taking the responsibility for protecting YOURSELF, which is where the responsibility SHOULD be.

3. PrEP only protects against HIV. As noted, you still might contract something else. But most "something elses" are curable (syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia), and even the ones that aren't (herpes, HPV) are treatable, and in some cases you can get vaccinated for them to prevent them in the first place.

All of this requires you to be up front with a medical provider (even if it's a local STI clinic), where someone can test you as needed and get you the prevention and/or treatment you need. You won't find that on the internet.

Everything you said is great advice. I was never openly chasing it but knew full well the risks I was taking. Got tested twice a year from 18-38, never had a STD at 38 tested poz for HIV. Here's where people call me crazy. I look for the silver lining in everything. Was paying $400 a month for health insurance prior to becoming poz, now have better insurance, health and dental Free of charge through the Ryan White foundation and State of Alabama