Re-emergence of "gay" as an insult in Western culture... should we be worried or do anything about it.

[Justyn]

ALWAYS prefer 'gay' over the always irritating and overlong LGBTVFDSA+++++.......crap!

I am not a little snowflake that needs to be coddled and even faggot or homo never bothered me and freely use those terms in mixed company.

Words and P.C. never bothered me.

[gimpsub69]

1 hour ago, BootmanLA said:

Perhaps you have a different understanding of what "civilization" means. Civilization, as understood by historians, sociologists, and pretty much all social science fields, refers to the development of permanent dwelling places - the establishment of a city, or (in Latin) a civitas - a group of people living together who agree to be bound by basic rules of behavior (as opposed to nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers). Essentially the defining moment of civilization is generally held to be the introduction of agriculture - the raising of food as opposed to hunting and gathering it - which makes it possible to remain in a single place. Even then, civilizations could be (and often were) exceptionally tribal, but that doesn't mean individual tribes did not accept outsiders as members, either. It varied.

I think this is a false dichotomy. There are aspects of human existence which lend themselves to hierarchy; there are aspects that lend themselves to democracy; and there are aspects that ought to be off-limits to both. The allowance of free speech and freedom of (and from) religion, for example, should be neither hierarchical nor democratic; they're recognition that certain things are beyond the democratic process and not governed by who's at the top of the pyramid.

I think that in a healthy, first-world kind of place - one with the resources to address nearly any problem that exists, if we only had the willpower - that we should do so. Sadly, there are too many people in this society who think that if solving those problems means that someone who has managed to amass $200 billion might have to give up a good chunk of that, then the problem is not in fact capable of being solved. 

You can tax the wealthy at 75% rates but if you leave the same politicians in office then nothing will change. How many multi millionaires have been made in DC in 50 years?  Politicians have everyone focused on the class war they created between the wealthy and poor, meanwhile they are the problem 

[nanana]

3 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Perhaps you have a different understanding of what "civilization" means

This is just a paraphrase translation: “The first human who hurled an insult instead of a stone invented civilization.”  - Sigmund Freud. Perhaps we have a different appreciation for our intellectual heritage. 

Edited December 7 by nanana
Forgot to include source of quote

[Erik62]

On 12/5/2024 at 5:29 PM, topblkmale said:

I concur.

LGBTQIA+

POC

black and brown

I don't belong to any of these groups.

Unfortunately, I speak with many LGB friends & they all have one common viewpoint. Ever since the worldwide rise of radical & often violent activities of trans (male to woman) protests, they have experienced a significant rise in verbal / physical abuse towards LGB individuals & communities. 

     I am not Transphobic but, I will not be forced to accept membership of ANY group which uses violence (verbal / physical), sexism & intimidation to make their point of view. 

[MrPolite]

1 hour ago, Poz50something said:

 

Hell of a retort.

Anyway here's another example of lefties saying "you're gay".

So, um, sucking up to the world's least liberal religion (Islam) gave this midget blond haired bimbo some kind of feeling of being "manly"...? Just so weird, it's clear we will all die before any psychologist investigates this.
 

[NWUSHorny]

I wasn't aware that those who obnoxiously object to homosexual acts ever stopped using it as an insult. 

[TaKinGDeePanal]

12 hours ago, MrPolite said:

Hell of a retort.

Anyway here's another example of lefties saying "you're gay".

So, um, sucking up to the world's least liberal religion (Islam) gave this midget blond haired bimbo some kind of feeling of being "manly"...? Just so weird, it's clear we will all die before any psychologist investigates this.
 

Orthodox Judaism (the Koran is based on the Torah) expressly forbids homosexuality: [think before following links] https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-orthodox-judaism#:~:text=Orthodox policies related to LGBTQ%2B,a violation of biblical weight.

 

Try again. 

[tallslenderguy]

17 minutes ago, TaKinGDeePanal said:

Orthodox Judaism (the Koran is based on the Torah) expressly forbids homosexuality: [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-orthodox-judaism#:~:text=Orthodox policies related to LGBTQ%2B,a violation of biblical weight.

As does fundamentalist Christianity.  To me, it's more the mindset (emotional set?)  of the espousing the religion, than the actual religion itself that makes for the bigger differences. After i stepped away from religion (fundamentalist Christianity in my case), i later ended up in a "Christian" church (to help them start a farmers market). The church was 150 years old, as were probably 70% of the congregants, and they voted unanimously to be a gay open and affirming church. As protest, they refused to perform any weddings until gays could get married legally. They were not fundamentalist in their approach, but still identified as "Christian," and they were accepting of me, not only as a gay guy, but also as someone who freely and openly debated many of their beliefs. 

After leaving religion, i also read the book Infidel by Ayaan Hirs Ali, who was raised in fundamentalist Islam. i was struck by the similarities between things and ways she was taught, to my own.  i know people who espouse Islam and Judaism who are openly accepting of gay people. i know atheists who are just as hateful as many fundamentalists i have known. 

The US democracy long had laws against homosexuals, i was arrested and charged with a felony for asking an undercover vice cop if he wanted to fuck me (using a 100 year old 'sodomy' law). The state AG in office at the time was a rabid anti gay and had directed those under him to go for blood.  

i think there are, and have always been anti gay people in every corner and walk of life.  I think those in power at the time largely set the stage for the performers, so, we will see. 

[MrPolite]

1 hour ago, TaKinGDeePanal said:

Try again. 

Try what? The fairground "test-your-might" game that is your head?

There's only one Jewish country, they "expressly ignore" it. Just like everyone should do to you

[Poz50something]

20 hours ago, MrPolite said:

 

Um really... you think you understand my own country's dialogue better than I do? You really believe the chances of that are like, as high as 7 out of 11?

This, dear readers, is classic deflection. Since YOU were the one who was so sure Smith used a slur, but now you’re unable to even mention what that slur is, I have to seriously doubt she said any. BBC is pretty professional. Also, just in case you were unaware, Great Britain left all these colonies all over the world, and Singapore 🇸🇬 likes to think of itself as being rather posh, what with Raffles Hotel, and its brilliant economy, and all. So, I dare say, some of us brought up in Singapore DO speak it as well as Britishers, and sometimes, better. I wonder why you have this reaction towards me, and not TakingDeepAnal, who practically said the same thing. 

[Erik62]

1 hour ago, MrPolite said:

Try what? The fairground "test-your-might" game that is your head?

There's only one Jewish country, they "expressly ignore" it. Just like everyone should do to you

I would wager that if a group of gay men & lesbians arrived in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED Palestinian lands & planned to build their own community, they would be DRIVEN OUT before they had laid a few bricks. Homosexuality maybe accepted now but, with any further move to extreme conservatism (zionism) this will change VERY QUICKLY. 

[BootmanLA]

On 12/6/2024 at 8:27 PM, MrPolite said:

I've been less bored during Woody Allen movies. Can you take this somewhere else. Thanks, wheelchair bruh.

If you're bored I suspect that's a symptom of being intellectually challenged. In any event, no, I don't intend to "take this somewhere else". 

[MrPolite]

8 hours ago, Poz50something said:

This, dear readers, is classic deflection.

So we're currently only in a jane Austen novel. Early 1800s. Will we be back in Islam's medieval times by... next week?

3 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I throw out the laughable suggestion of being "intellectually inferior" like any 11-year-old can do on their first day of the internet. And yet here I am, a 50 bazillion year old so-called "man". Jesus look at me. Dear GOD.

No, actually, you're the one terrified by arguments, and you lack intellectual curiosity or liking for debate, indicated by how you won't say a thing or complain when this thread and my account is disappeared, just like so many others - even though you chose to participate in it.

So, yes, it's you... who (assumes most nasal voice ever) HEH! *pushes glasses up nose* are like, heh *pushes glasses up nose* intellectually challenged. (spoken like a spotty geek who actually thinks Coen brothers movies are entertaining)

Edited December 8 by MrPolite

[TaKinGDeePanal]

8 hours ago, Poz50something said:

This, dear readers, is classic deflection. Since YOU were the one who was so sure Smith used a slur, but now you’re unable to even mention what that slur is, I have to seriously doubt she said any. BBC is pretty professional. Also, just in case you were unaware, Great Britain left all these colonies all over the world, and Singapore 🇸🇬 likes to think of itself as being rather posh, what with Raffles Hotel, and its brilliant economy, and all. So, I dare say, some of us brought up in Singapore DO speak it as well as Britishers, and sometimes, better. I wonder why you have this reaction towards me, and not TakingDeepAnal, who practically said the same thing. 

Because I've identified him as a shiver in search of a spine - and he knows it. BTW, I'm not sure why you're also trying to target me.

[Poz50something]

5 hours ago, TaKinGDeePanal said:

Because I've identified him as a shiver in search of a spine - and he knows it. BTW, I'm not sure why you're also trying to target me.

I am not targeting you. Sorry if I came across as doing that. I am merely pointing out that there’s an obvious melanin component to him targeting me.