What are you most optimistic about in political developments in 2025?

[Erik62]

11 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

@Erik62 we certainly have good reason to not trust Mr Vance.  But at end I believe the struggle will be between Trump and his fuck buddy Musk.  

The other side of the coin. When a threesome is involved I attempt to build a definitive viewpoint but, in this case, I would have go at 49 to 51%. Vance is the sleeper 😴💤💤💤.

[PozBearWI]

Ooooh baby if I was a fortune teller.  Probably we're all safe though to recognize that things will differ a month from now, a couple months after that, this coming Fall...  It could turn into an utter shit show.  But maybe it won't.  

JD might be too busy fucking the couch in the oval office...  LOL

[Erik62]

3 hours ago, DallasPozzible said:

Just spitballing, but what if both Trump and Musk lose control? I suspect that the four guys Musk has rummaging through the government systems have numerous back doors by now that any one of them could exploit. They may have even more power than Musk. What do they do with this information? How long will it take for Putin to put them to work?

I just don’t think we have a clue of where we’re headed. 

I don't play 🏌️golf but, you got that idea as a fucking hole ⛳🕳️ 🍆in one. 

[Erik62]

3 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

Indeed.  We have clues only in that we have alternatives we can envision.  But what will actually happen remains to be seen.  My very UNscientific poll among people I know suggests their early thinking involved guns.  And yeah that could I suppose happen.  Maybe even 5050 odds of a civil war.  But maybe odds are greater than I think....

I think speed of intervention will have a large influence on longer term outcomes.  

Would the MAGA lunatic civil & military fringe, in the RED STATES, actually go so far as to press that RED🔴button, on a BLUE State such as California🤔???? 

I WONDER 🤔!!!

Is madness that "infectious" 😱???

[negchaserlooking]

As an outsider (Australia) looking in, I can only form an opinion based on what I read and see in the media. Frankly I don't think you have anything to be optimistic about at the moment, but of course that is my own personal opinion.

You have this orange blob in the Whitehouse who is a fruit loop and loose cannon. A would be King of the world who expects everyone to kotow to his whim of the moment. (Let's write another executive order FFS). And he has surrounded himself with brown nosed sycophants' who don't dare or don't have the balls to stand up against him.

Then you have the other prancing prima donna who throws his money around and thinks he can buy anything or anyone. I feel he is more dangerous than your new "illustrious leader". He is an unelected wheeler dealer who seems to have a free hand to do what he wants. Just how much influence he has over the orange one and what strings he pulls is anyone's guess. Can't wait for that bromance to crash and burn.

And then you have the blinkered MAGA faction, interesting when the penny drops that all his actions have a reaction and they are not exempt. Good luck.

We have our own elections pending so something for us to look forward to as well.

ALL OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN

[PozBearWI]

10 hours ago, Erik62 said:

Would the MAGA lunatic civil & military fringe, in the RED STATES, actually go so far as to press that RED🔴button, on a BLUE State such as California🤔???? 

I WONDER 🤔!!!

Is madness that "infectious" 😱???

Would MAGA do that?  Some for sure would as they seem to be unaware of consequences.  Is madness infectious?  Yup.  

[PozBearWI]

A pretty good summation of the present state of USA leadership @negchaserlooking.  

In some ways I am glad I don't possess the ability to see into the future.  Suffice to say we have a problem and many are leaning towards H2 ignorant of history 100 years ago.  

I am very hopeful my Australian brothers will prevail and not copy the US in your next election.  

[Erik62]

7 hours ago, negchaserlooking said:

As an outsider (Australia) looking in, I can only form an opinion based on what I read and see in the media. Frankly I don't think you have anything to be optimistic about at the moment, but of course that is my own personal opinion.

You have this orange blob in the Whitehouse who is a fruit loop and loose cannon. A would be King of the world who expects everyone to kotow to his whim of the moment. (Let's write another executive order FFS). And he has surrounded himself with brown nosed sycophants' who don't dare or don't have the balls to stand up against him.

Then you have the other prancing prima donna who throws his money around and thinks he can buy anything or anyone. I feel he is more dangerous than your new "illustrious leader". He is an unelected wheeler dealer who seems to have a free hand to do what he wants. Just how much influence he has over the orange one and what strings he pulls is anyone's guess. Can't wait for that bromance to crash and burn.

And then you have the blinkered MAGA faction, interesting when the penny drops that all his actions have a reaction and they are not exempt. Good luck.

We have our own elections pending so something for us to look forward to as well.

ALL OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN

FFS😱, you really had to say it. I was enjoying a read of your thoughts & then you mentioned💭 OUR elections. Not nice at this time of night🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 

[Erik62]

45 minutes ago, PozBearWI said:

A pretty good summation of the present state of USA leadership @negchaserlooking.  

In some ways I am glad I don't possess the ability to see into the future.  Suffice to say we have a problem and many are leaning towards H2 ignorant of history 100 years ago.  

I am very hopeful my Australian brothers will prevail and not copy the US in your next election.  

HA😱, We are SO RIPE, for a disaster. The Loony Left, Radical Right & now zionist pressure has our State & Federal governments passing legislation specifically FOR THEM. 

NOT looking good 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. 

[PozBearWI]

Nope @Erik62 not at all.  

For me "optimism" has left the station.  But, I can see a variety of pathways which might unfold going forward.  Some utterly brutal.  We are in the process of grappling with the BIG DIVIDE we're living in.  We have a whole lot of people seeking a savior; taking the position of "here go fix this" as if government were our local mechanic.  Worse, rather than a shared pool of interaction, we've spun off into factions and pretty much ignore.  

We are in a world where conflicting and often warped if not overtly wrong information being spun to the masses pretty close to moment to moment.  

I am not a guy on his "smart" phone constantly.  It is wherever I last set it down.  I am not a fan of sudden loud noises; appreciating whatever environmental sounds actually around me is what I favor.  There was a time we didn't always have a running stream of music, or talk radio constantly streaming into our ears?  If we live that, when do we ever get into that quiet space of focused consideration of whatever catches our interest.  So clearly I am in a minority of my fellow Wisconsin citizens; and that has become largely true throughout the USA.  

And indeed listening to music, especially focused listening is a pleasurable activity.  Without earbuds, there are sounds all around us.  Environmental sounds present information about what is going on around us.  Data for our brains to use in getting familiar with, and understanding what is occurring around us.  

It seems to me we block each out out mostly...  I try to visit with neighbors standing in line with me.  Even trite interaction confirms that we, the sound we make, the heat our bodies put out, how the space we're in smells.  Restated focused time where we actively plug in all the senses we can take in about the space we're in now, with whomever is with us now.  

I also became an adult while the 1960's unfolded.  And it pretty much feels now like we were then. 

It might be that we need to consider the history of the 1960's (and early 70's) and see if we can see better what NOT to do now.  

Somehow, we need to rediscover our common ground.  I don't think that happens for any of us until we, ourselves, decide to.

[PozBearWI]

2 hours ago, Erik62 said:

HA😱, We are SO RIPE, for a disaster. The Loony Left, Radical Right & now zionist pressure has our State & Federal governments passing legislation specifically FOR THEM. 

NOT looking good 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. 

Your best options to alter the course is BEFORE the election.  Beyond that aside from sharing language; there are a host of unique "if/then/else" conditions that influence Australian life and USA life.  

It is great to know we want something, even better to understand why.  Even better if we then understand how each of us are being impacted and find a place of mutual benefit?  Here Donny and Elon?  They are definitely not looking out for how their actions affect anyone else.  They believe the better things go for themselves, that defines the place to be regardless of how that impacts those around them.  Somehow we need to pull that curtain back.  

 

[hntnhole]

15 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

JD might be too busy fucking the couch in the oval office...  LOL

uugggghhhh ...... the imaginary visuals are just too disgusting 🤣

But then, so are the imaginary visuals of how he repaid the Sponsor of his career ....

'scuse me - I need to go hurl ....... 

[Erik62]

6 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

Your best options to alter the course is BEFORE the election.  Beyond that aside from sharing language; there are a host of unique "if/then/else" conditions that influence Australian life and USA life.  

It is great to know we want something, even better to understand why.  Even better if we then understand how each of us are being impacted and find a place of mutual benefit?  Here Donny and Elon?  They are definitely not looking out for how their actions affect anyone else.  They believe the better things go for themselves, that defines the place to be regardless of how that impacts those around them.  Somehow we need to pull that curtain back.  

 

AGREE wholeheartedly 👍. 

[Erik62]

4 hours ago, hntnhole said:

uugggghhhh ...... the imaginary visuals are just too disgusting 🤣

But then, so are the imaginary visuals of how he repaid the Sponsor of his career ....

'scuse me - I need to go hurl ....... 

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Edited February 12 by Erik62

[Norcalfukkr]

I’m optimistic that more macho closeted, authoritarian GOP’ers or MAGA men are going to wanna get their frustrations out on subservient holes like mine. You know they’re out there, just waiting for the right opportunity when their buddies aren’t watching to sneak off and find a hot bottom to breed. That’s my optimistic take on the times we’re living.  I can only hope those sorts of radicalized men any to get off on fucking my liberal leaning ass