PozBearWI Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Report Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Do we really WANT the dems to play dirty like the 'publicans? Seriously? What fucking world are we asking for when we do that? How the fuck is "actblue" fraud???? @nanana reading your reply above has me thinking maybe fox is all you listen to? 1
nanana Posted Friday at 04:32 PM Report Posted Friday at 04:32 PM I never listen to Fox. Here are some references to the ActBlue controversy: [think before following links] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/potential-actblue-criminal-charges-over-possible-fraud-donations-once-again-reveal-the-dems-fraud-campaign/ar-AA1qQv0D; [think before following links] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/us/politics/actblue-democrat-fundraising-resignations.html?searchResultPosition=1;[think before following links] https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/newsroom/attorney-general-bird-demands-proof-from-actblue-over-concerns-of-illegal-donations-that-may-influen; [think before following links] https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/breaking-exclusive-corrupt-and-criminal-democrat-party-receives-half-its-donations-from-unemployed-who-are-likely-elderly-voters-whose-identities-are-stolen-wheres-the-money-really-coming-from/ ; [think before following links] https://www.zerohedge.com/political/actblue-tightens-donation-security-requirements-amid-investigations; I think you have a great point though PozBearWI in that people of different political persuasions find it difficult to stomach the editorial styles and spins from various sources of reporting and typically gravitate to sources that OMIT coverage of news unfavorable to their readers' worldview. I think this is true of ANY partisan editorial board, from the New York Times, NPR and the US AID-Funded Politico to FOX, Wall Street Journal and the Gateway Pundit. Both major parties' partisans miss out on a balanced view of the truth. Despite my best efforts, after seeing so many omissions from liberal leaning sources, I am more likely to get into the non-liberal sources, but to your point PosBearWI, that puts me at risk of being pulled into a bubble. I think I am as subject to anyone else is to propaganda and failing to kick the tires of a source. To help me combat that, I try to go to the sources of information to see whether my interpretation is the same as or similar to the reporter's interpretation or the editorial source's information. Frankly, that takes a FUCKLOAD of time, so I certainly don't blame people if they accept things at face value from a trusted source just to protect their time commitment. I also try to read a diversity of sources and hopefully to find contradictory viewpoints to help me asses and triangulate the truth value of what I am hearing or reading. I also assess how much "data" is being presented as opposed to how much "assertion" is happening in the article. Most "objective" and even "partisan" sources find it difficult to avoid all assertion, and all get a different percentage of data versus assertions in the mix. I try to assess the logic of the article. I also try to "follow the money" to try to get a sense of who may be benefiting from the spin, the omission, or the focus. It's definitely a messy world. I don't begrudge people coming to different conclusions than I do and placing different truth value on different sources. PozBearWI, whatever conclusion you come to about ActBlue, I don't get the sense from your question to me "@nanana reading your reply above has me thinking maybe fox is all you listen to?" that you were even aware that ActBlue was being investigated, which makes me think you rely on sources that limit your access to full information. So, what sources do you rely on to get your complete picture? (I ask respectfully and not to win an argument. It would not make me happy @PozBearWI to impose a worldview on you...).
nanana Posted Friday at 07:04 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:04 PM On 4/20/2025 at 6:58 PM, pupHawaii said: good point - both parties .. anytime he doesn't get his way he bullies .. and does his best to get retribution cuz at this point he knows no one will stand up to him I don’t dislike this point… AND another observable quality is that he seems to TIMEBOX his campaigns and MOVE ON when no quick win emerges.
PozBearWI Posted Friday at 10:22 PM Report Posted Friday at 10:22 PM I am distrustful of X reporting.
hntnhole Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago On 4/23/2025 at 6:36 AM, allrise said: John Lennon’s song Imagine seems unreacheable I love that song .... always thought of it as a goal to attain, rather than something that should already exist, but doesn't yet.. Even the key, (plain-jane old C major) is evocative of the almost impossibility of attaining what the song represents. *I don't think the world has recognized the enormity of his talents yet. On 4/24/2025 at 7:11 PM, TT2025 said: Are those protests you're talking about so big and consequential? (rhetoric question) (rhetorical answer) Yep. Attended another one earlier this afternoon. Started out with about 150 people, a month+ ago. Today, it was not quite 900. I should state that this County (Broward) is the most reliably Democratic in the State of FL. When the Republican members of the House won't even attend the normal, long, loooong standing "town hall" meetings with their constituents, and the Democratic office-holders in the area attend instead, there's nothing "normal" afoot at all. More, it's happening in every State in the Union. The R's don't even have enough backbone to meet with the residents of their districts. More, this is happening nation wide, daily, not just here and there. The local republican office-holders don't even have the balls to face their own constituents !!! 1 2
PozBearWI Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Running into the same with Glenn Grothmann, my R congressman.
nanana Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago On 4/25/2025 at 6:22 PM, PozBearWI said: I am distrustful of X reporting. You do realize that X is a billion people with diverse worldviews? I’m having a hard time understanding how you’d distrust X sort of like distrusting that your email didn’t change a’s into e’s. Can you help me understand how you’d distrust something as transparent as e-mail? Agree that many of the billion with X accounts might not be trustworthy but it feels like drowned baby in bathwater.
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