How stupid is to propose taking a HIV test before sex?

[soki]

Hi,

Recently I got again into the hookup scene, just dreaming about being an absolute sub bottom for a top.

Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD, and would like to fuck me raw, breed me and churn butter inside of me fucking me again after breeding the first time (his words lol)

He says he would fuck with others with condoms if our thing works out, but won't stop seeing others in any way.

I would love to hookup with him, and I have a huge fetish and hard on to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside of me, it's like I'm in heat lol, but also, something in me makes me want to be safe, I don't want to catch something because being "on heat" or HIV.

Currently, where I'm based, I can't get PReP, both because I'm closeted and family would know I asked for it, and also because the local rules to get it is to "sign" a form in which you declare you have sex with other men, and at least 10 different men in recent times, with at least one previous anal unprotected encounter, and at least one register of another STD like Gonorrhoea or whatever. Basically: are you already fucking around with multiple guys, raw, and already caught some STDs in the past? Then sign here declaring that and PReP is yours. The only other way to get it is to declare I'm a prostitute, no joke.

Not only would I need to lie, but sign that for the system to allow me to get it. And getting it online "out of the system" is highly illegal and if caught when importing from other countries, would be destroyed.

So it occured to me: HIV tests (saliva and blood) are available over the counter at pharmacies, maybe it would be a good idea to just buy two, and suggest the guy to take one test both, wait the 15-20 minutes (meanwhile I could give him a good blowjob), and if both are negative, then go ahead with raw sex and breeding me?

Could this be a good enough plan? Or a very stupid thing and better not to even try proposing it?

What do you think?

Thanks a lot.

Edited Saturday at 01:55 AM by soki

[muscmtl]

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[Poz50something]

1 hour ago, muscmtl said:

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First of all, it’s a bit telling:  this schmoe thinksPREP that post seroconversion, it’s a quick descent from Poz to AIDS….in this day and age, there’s absolutely no excuse for a gay man to be ignorant of the HIV and its progression.  Secondly, PREP is PRE exposure….besides, with such ignorance, I’d bet he would not be aware DoxyPrep  even exists. 

[jd13]

4 hours ago, muscmtl said:

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I... what the... holyfuckinshit there is so MUCH to unpack there! 🤣🤣🤣

[TT2025]

19 hours ago, soki said:

Hi,

Recently I got again into the hookup scene, just dreaming about being an absolute sub bottom for a top.

Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD, and would like to fuck me raw, breed me and churn butter inside of me fucking me again after breeding the first time (his words lol)

He says he would fuck with others with condoms if our thing works out, but won't stop seeing others in any way.

I would love to hookup with him, and I have a huge fetish and hard on to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside of me, it's like I'm in heat lol, but also, something in me makes me want to be safe, I don't want to catch something because being "on heat" or HIV.

Currently, where I'm based, I can't get PReP, both because I'm closeted and family would know I asked for it, and also because the local rules to get it is to "sign" a form in which you declare you have sex with other men, and at least 10 different men in recent times, with at least one previous anal unprotected encounter, and at least one register of another STD like Gonorrhoea or whatever. Basically: are you already fucking around with multiple guys, raw, and already caught some STDs in the past? Then sign here declaring that and PReP is yours. The only other way to get it is to declare I'm a prostitute, no joke.

Not only would I need to lie, but sign that for the system to allow me to get it. And getting it online "out of the system" is highly illegal and if caught when importing from other countries, would be destroyed.

So it occured to me: HIV tests (saliva and blood) are available over the counter at pharmacies, maybe it would be a good idea to just buy two, and suggest the guy to take one test both, wait the 15-20 minutes (meanwhile I could give him a good blowjob), and if both are negative, then go ahead with raw sex and breeding me?

Could this be a good enough plan? Or a very stupid thing and better not to even try proposing it?

What do you think?

Thanks a lot.

Woa, what moron came up with that PReP prerequisites? (And I thought we have it hard to get on PReP.) PeP is not available (probably not or some beautiful rules attached as well)?

Well you could try to talk him into it (in advance). I mean explain worries and offer test as a way out (compromise as it really is, cause it sure isn't 100% bulletproof). Then you'll continue by his reaction (insist or back down). 

Two tests seem to be overkill, but would be nice if you took test yourself - just out of solidarity, purely psychological reasons (thou you could have better chance of success, when you want him to do what you will do also).

[BreedingTop71]

Not uncommon, I had one guy request that I took a in-home-test. I didn’t mind. Back in the day when I was not on prep, I asked guys to see their test results or the bottle of prep prescription before I mounted them. Most complied because they wanted me raw inside them and unloading in them. If he really likes you, he won’t mind. HOWEVER, that test is a snapshot in time. As soon as his results come back negative and leaves your house, he could have a poz top poz him and the test they took goes out the window. As long as you’re clear of what you’re getting from the test and its limitations you should be ok. Also, my advice regarding prep? Unless is a MAJOR issue for you now or in the future, GO FOR IT. Why? Simple…. What is better, to get on prep or get the virus? As with everything in life, weigh the benefits versus the negative.