soki Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 (edited) Hi, Recently I got again into the hookup scene, just dreaming about being an absolute sub bottom for a top. Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD, and would like to fuck me raw, breed me and churn butter inside of me fucking me again after breeding the first time (his words lol) He says he would fuck with others with condoms if our thing works out, but won't stop seeing others in any way. I would love to hookup with him, and I have a huge fetish and hard on to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside of me, it's like I'm in heat lol, but also, something in me makes me want to be safe, I don't want to catch something because being "on heat" or HIV. Currently, where I'm based, I can't get PReP, both because I'm closeted and family would know I asked for it, and also because the local rules to get it is to "sign" a form in which you declare you have sex with other men, and at least 10 different men in recent times, with at least one previous anal unprotected encounter, and at least one register of another STD like Gonorrhoea or whatever. Basically: are you already fucking around with multiple guys, raw, and already caught some STDs in the past? Then sign here declaring that and PReP is yours. The only other way to get it is to declare I'm a prostitute, no joke. Not only would I need to lie, but sign that for the system to allow me to get it. And getting it online "out of the system" is highly illegal and if caught when importing from other countries, would be destroyed. So it occured to me: HIV tests (saliva and blood) are available over the counter at pharmacies, maybe it would be a good idea to just buy two, and suggest the guy to take one test both, wait the 15-20 minutes (meanwhile I could give him a good blowjob), and if both are negative, then go ahead with raw sex and breeding me? Could this be a good enough plan? Or a very stupid thing and better not to even try proposing it? What do you think? Thanks a lot. Edited April 19 by soki
Poz50something Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 12:58 PM, muscmtl said: My best scruff fails screen captures. From yrs ago Expand First of all, it’s a bit telling: this schmoe thinksPREP that post seroconversion, it’s a quick descent from Poz to AIDS….in this day and age, there’s absolutely no excuse for a gay man to be ignorant of the HIV and its progression. Secondly, PREP is PRE exposure….besides, with such ignorance, I’d bet he would not be aware DoxyPrep even exists. 4
jd13 Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 12:58 PM, muscmtl said: My best scruff fails screen captures. From yrs ago Expand I... what the... holyfuckinshit there is so MUCH to unpack there! 🤣🤣🤣 1 1 1
TT2025 Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 1:51 AM, soki said: Hi, Recently I got again into the hookup scene, just dreaming about being an absolute sub bottom for a top. Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD, and would like to fuck me raw, breed me and churn butter inside of me fucking me again after breeding the first time (his words lol) He says he would fuck with others with condoms if our thing works out, but won't stop seeing others in any way. I would love to hookup with him, and I have a huge fetish and hard on to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside of me, it's like I'm in heat lol, but also, something in me makes me want to be safe, I don't want to catch something because being "on heat" or HIV. Currently, where I'm based, I can't get PReP, both because I'm closeted and family would know I asked for it, and also because the local rules to get it is to "sign" a form in which you declare you have sex with other men, and at least 10 different men in recent times, with at least one previous anal unprotected encounter, and at least one register of another STD like Gonorrhoea or whatever. Basically: are you already fucking around with multiple guys, raw, and already caught some STDs in the past? Then sign here declaring that and PReP is yours. The only other way to get it is to declare I'm a prostitute, no joke. Not only would I need to lie, but sign that for the system to allow me to get it. And getting it online "out of the system" is highly illegal and if caught when importing from other countries, would be destroyed. So it occured to me: HIV tests (saliva and blood) are available over the counter at pharmacies, maybe it would be a good idea to just buy two, and suggest the guy to take one test both, wait the 15-20 minutes (meanwhile I could give him a good blowjob), and if both are negative, then go ahead with raw sex and breeding me? Could this be a good enough plan? Or a very stupid thing and better not to even try proposing it? What do you think? Thanks a lot. Expand Woa, what moron came up with that PReP prerequisites? (And I thought we have it hard to get on PReP.) PeP is not available (probably not or some beautiful rules attached as well)? Well you could try to talk him into it (in advance). I mean explain worries and offer test as a way out (compromise as it really is, cause it sure isn't 100% bulletproof). Then you'll continue by his reaction (insist or back down). Two tests seem to be overkill, but would be nice if you took test yourself - just out of solidarity, purely psychological reasons (thou you could have better chance of success, when you want him to do what you will do also). 1
BreedingTop71 Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 Not uncommon, I had one guy request that I took a in-home-test. I didn’t mind. Back in the day when I was not on prep, I asked guys to see their test results or the bottle of prep prescription before I mounted them. Most complied because they wanted me raw inside them and unloading in them. If he really likes you, he won’t mind. HOWEVER, that test is a snapshot in time. As soon as his results come back negative and leaves your house, he could have a poz top poz him and the test they took goes out the window. As long as you’re clear of what you’re getting from the test and its limitations you should be ok. Also, my advice regarding prep? Unless is a MAJOR issue for you now or in the future, GO FOR IT. Why? Simple…. What is better, to get on prep or get the virus? As with everything in life, weigh the benefits versus the negative.
norefusal Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 it's somewhat of a fool's errand imo the only time i ever did it was back in 2001 when my ex and i decided to become exclusive we both got tested, showed each other the negative results, then threw away the condoms. as an er dr pointed out to me circa 2009, trusting a man not to lie about cheating is not a 100% fool proof plan. 🤣 either u trust people or you don't but im on prep now so i never even have to ask. 1
brnbk Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 (edited) On 4/19/2025 at 1:51 AM, soki said: Hi, Recently I got again into the hookup scene, just dreaming about being an absolute sub bottom for a top. Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD, and would like to fuck me raw, breed me and churn butter inside of me fucking me again after breeding the first time (his words lol) He says he would fuck with others with condoms if our thing works out, but won't stop seeing others in any way. I would love to hookup with him, and I have a huge fetish and hard on to be bred, to feel a man cumming inside of me, it's like I'm in heat lol, but also, something in me makes me want to be safe, I don't want to catch something because being "on heat" or HIV. Currently, where I'm based, I can't get PReP, both because I'm closeted and family would know I asked for it, and also because the local rules to get it is to "sign" a form in which you declare you have sex with other men, and at least 10 different men in recent times, with at least one previous anal unprotected encounter, and at least one register of another STD like Gonorrhoea or whatever. Basically: are you already fucking around with multiple guys, raw, and already caught some STDs in the past? Then sign here declaring that and PReP is yours. The only other way to get it is to declare I'm a prostitute, no joke. Not only would I need to lie, but sign that for the system to allow me to get it. And getting it online "out of the system" is highly illegal and if caught when importing from other countries, would be destroyed. So it occured to me: HIV tests (saliva and blood) are available over the counter at pharmacies, maybe it would be a good idea to just buy two, and suggest the guy to take one test both, wait the 15-20 minutes (meanwhile I could give him a good blowjob), and if both are negative, then go ahead with raw sex and breeding me? Could this be a good enough plan? Or a very stupid thing and better not to even try proposing it? What do you think? Thanks a lot. Expand The implications of Signed declarations are overrated. You can always claim you did not read the entire document and did not understand the full implications of it. You could also claim it was written in a language different from your native tongue, i.e. you don't speak very good English etc. - if you have any immigrant background. Or, you could claim the nurse just asked you to sign somewhere and you did, and never read the questionnaire. Honestly, no one has the right to question you about your sexual behavior except for a priest. Even a court of law cannot, realistically, ask you how many people you have slept with in the past week/month etc. Ultimately, only you can make the decision about your life and sexuality. Have you ever thought of having a gay bf who is into bareback sex like you and also like you wishes to be monogamous due to convictions or fear of diseases. It would minimize the risk of the diseases and infections that scare you, and yet let you enjoy bareback sex in a limited way. Edited April 22 by brnbk 1
blackrobe Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 On 4/22/2025 at 8:46 PM, brnbk said: Honestly, no one has the right to question you about your sexual behavior except for a priest. Even a court of law cannot, realistically, ask you how many people you have slept with in the past week/month etc. Expand Setting aside this specific context, I'm confused by the above. Priests and other religious leaders have zero *right* to question anyone about their sexual behavior. In fact, the only place where there *is* any expectation of disclosing your sexual behavior is questioning under oath in a court of law, or some other form of affidavit.
Leather69 Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 Boy .. has this gone round and around.. simple answer ... fucking you should be on PrEp..all other comments are irrelevant if you wont to be neg in a few moths .. 1 1
brnbk Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 On 4/22/2025 at 11:16 PM, blackrobe said: Setting aside this specific context, I'm confused by the above. Priests and other religious leaders have zero *right* to question anyone about their sexual behavior. In fact, the only place where there *is* any expectation of disclosing your sexual behavior is questioning under oath in a court of law, or some other form of affidavit. Expand By right, I was referring to rights from a moral and ethical perspective rather than legal or social rights. I am not a practicing lawyer but find it hard to believe that any court in our day and age, except in Islamic jurisdictions, would ask or allow for questioning that requires a defendant to reveal his sexual behaviours including the number of partners etc he has had. I believe such questions are not acceptable even in rape cases. On 4/23/2025 at 9:54 AM, Leather69 said: Boy .. has this gone round and around.. simple answer ... fucking you should be on PrEp.. Expand He wouldn't be asking those questions if he was comfortable taking PrEP.
blackrobe Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 On 4/23/2025 at 8:35 PM, brnbk said: I am not a practicing lawyer but find it hard to believe that any court in our day and age, except in Islamic jurisdictions, would ask or allow for questioning that requires a defendant to reveal his sexual behaviours including the number of partners etc he has had. I believe such questions are not acceptable even in rape cases. Expand It's pretty common for plaintiff's sexual histories to be explored in civil legal cases around sexual harassment and sexual consent in the US because of a broad civil exemption to Rape Shield Laws: Quote "Although Rule 412 generally bars “evidence to prove that a victim engaged in other sexual behavior” and “evidence offered to prove a victim’s sexual predisposition,” that evidence may be admissible in civil cases if “its probative value substantially outweighs the danger of harm” to the victim and unfair prejudice to any party. Because of a requirement under sexual harassment case law that plaintiffs prove the sexual harassment was “unwelcome” and a broad civil exception to Rule 412 that allows sexual predisposition evidence in civil cases, evidence such as a woman’s dress, her prior employment, and her “unladylike” language in the workplace, may be admissible." From "Stereotyping Evidence: The Civil Exception to the Federal Rape Shield Law and Its Embedded Sexual Stereotypes" - Ramona Albin, Samford University, ralbin@samford.edu Expand The law is more malleable than we might hope. 1
brnbk Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 On 4/23/2025 at 9:09 PM, blackrobe said: It's pretty common for plaintiff's sexual histories to be explored in civil legal cases around sexual harassment and sexual consent in the US because of a broad civil exemption to Rape Shield Laws: Expand Very interesting. I did not know that sexual histories where permissible in civil cases of sexual harassment and consent in the U.S. It seems strange that the law would allow for such histories in cases of harassment rather that the more serious charge of rape but the Law is what it is and it is good to be aware of it!
BarebackedBear Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 HIV tests of any kind, including rapid / at home tests, run the risk of throwing a false negative. You can be recently POZ and not have produced enough antibodies to trip the test. And during this "window period," you can pass on the virus. It can take months in some cases for your body to produce enough antibodies to trip some tests. I'm not sure where you're located, but those PrEP rules are insane. Unless your physical safety is at risk by requesting PrEP, either from government agencies or your family, just sign the papers and get the pill. If the only risk is family judgment ... fuck 'em? Maybe it's just me but I never worried what my family thought of me or my lifestyle. Chosen family that loves and supports you unconditionally is more valuable than some people you share a blood relation to. 1
gamerslut Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 On 4/19/2025 at 1:51 AM, soki said: Thing is, one candidate seems to be a guy that says doesn't have any STD Expand HIV test is not going to protect you from other STDs. I’ve done this with an old girlfriend, where we both got tested for a full range of STDs, revealed the results to each other, and then went home and fucked raw all weekend. But for a random hookup? Hard to imagine someone being so patient and waiting for you between testing and results. On 4/22/2025 at 8:46 PM, brnbk said: Have you ever thought of having a gay bf who is into bareback sex like you and also like you wishes to be monogamous due to convictions or fear of diseases. Expand This is your best option.
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