nanana Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 [think before following links] https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/top-fda-official-discloses-she-never-received-covid-19-vaccine
brnbk Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 She never stated if she has ever tested positive for CoVID or not. My suspicion is that she would have been infected with COVID at some point and given her training as a preventative medicine doctor figured she already had enough immunity that the average CoVID shot would give her and so skipped the general shots. Experts can make themselves look like us average folks but it is important to read between the lines.
nanana Posted May 21 Author Report Posted May 21 Hi @brnbk, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I saw her speak, and her concern was for the effect of the MRNA vaccine on her pregnancy and her fetus. She also was a strong advocate of medical freedom and believed that each of us owns our own health, and that doctors are advisors but do not get to take over our health choices. If your suspicion is correct, this would still put her at odds with the US Federal guidance of that era that natural immunity is inferior to the Pfizer or Moderna shot. Can you help explain how you are making sense of whether or not she already had COVID? I agree with you that it is important to read between the lines, but I am having a hard connecting the dots on your hypothesis. Thank you!
tallslenderguy Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Report Posted Friday at 06:26 PM The hospital where i work opened a dedicated Covid unit the first week of February 2020, i have >1600 hours caring for Covid+ patients, i had the hospitals first Covid patient. It was a new virus that rapidly mutated, and much of our understanding based on evidence is retrospective, because there simply was not any long term study evidence on a new virus to be had. I was the second person to get the vaccine at our hospital in December 2020. I did not make the decision easily, but after a year of watching patients die, with still little understanding or treatment available, i opted for the vaccine. Of course, there was only short term evidence available. Really, it was pretty amazing that a vaccine was available so early on. i knew first hand the risk of the variant we were dealing with at the time, and i knew of the potential risks of the vaccine. Neither was an easy choice, but i opted for the vaccine, and have had several boosters since. The current variants are more akin to the flu than the original Covid variants, they are less virulent, so the decision to get vaccinated now against Covid, to me, is similar to deciding on a flu vaccine. When the first vaccine came out, we still did not know how much immunity having had the disease would confer, so a decision to opt out of the vaccine when it came out would have been speculative. Given the efficacy of the vaccine, and our current knowledge of the virus, the virus does not confer immunity after being infected. The vaccine prevents or lessens severity of infection. When the first couple iterations of the vaccine came out, the delta variant of the covid virus was still particularly deadly, usually because it evoked a cytokine response that would overwhelm and essentially drown it's victims in cement ("cytokine storm"). I have not seen this severe of a response in the more recent infections, most of the people hospitalized (far fewer) have co-morbidities that put them more at risk. 1 1
BlueSaphir Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM Report Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM Any doctors or medical professionals who are against it, I would put a side eye on them. My health care professional from all specialties within City of Hope advocate everyone to get the vaccine. I have total of three. And I am still healthy and not having any complications from the vaccines. 1
brnbk Posted yesterday at 12:33 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:33 AM On 5/21/2025 at 1:52 PM, nanana said: Hi @brnbk, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I saw her speak, and her concern was for the effect of the MRNA vaccine on her pregnancy and her fetus. She also was a strong advocate of medical freedom and believed that each of us owns our own health, and that doctors are advisors but do not get to take over our health choices. If your suspicion is correct, this would still put her at odds with the US Federal guidance of that era that natural immunity is inferior to the Pfizer or Moderna shot. Can you help explain how you are making sense of whether or not she already had COVID? I agree with you that it is important to read between the lines, but I am having a hard connecting the dots on your hypothesis. Thank you! Apologies for the late reply, nanana. To begin, I find her to be a very strange women medical person. Her philosophical belief that doctors are "advisors" like some kind of beauty advisors is a very inaccurate view of medicine. Most of the time it is the doctors who have to make decisions - diagnosis, treatment etc - based on the body of knowledge we called modern medicine. Yes, there are situations where a patient's choice is involved but those are rather limited and even in such cases, doctors do have to inform the patient of the entire scenario and the consequences of their choices so that they can make informed decision. Most of us don't really have the choice of not vaccination simply because if we don't vaccinate against known vaccinable diseases we run the risk of spreading them to others my suspicion that she already did get CoVID is based on observing the general behaviours of people who are hostile to vaccines like JFK and even certain Fox News Stars during the CoVID pandemic. While they where spreading anti vaccine sentiment and views, most of them privately did get vaccinated. JFK when questioned if he would get his children vaccinated replied probably. If he really thought vaccines where so harmful, would he really get his children vaccinated? I find it hard to believe that someone like her who has studied, according to the article, preventative medicine as doctor with expertise in nanotechnology would not understand the importance of vaccines in preventing pandemics and diseases. I find her argument more on the lines of, I am going to stop drinking water coz water these days is said to contain microplastics. 1
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