Why do you think Americans "voted in massive numbers" to "Dump trump", but then 4 years later changed their mind?

[harrysmith25]

The switcheroo from "Millions of brave people deposing a dictator"

to: "Them coming out and voting him back again". That one is still baffling me.

(I Tried to put a Mugshot of Trump here But The Stupid Image Thing Is A Piece of Trash That Keeps saying "This is Not Allowed")

The US population - how they suddenly decided he looks really handsome in a mugshot,

that was weird and still hasn't been explained by any scholars or everyday political columnist-types.......

[J-raw]

I think the public in general remembered how the economy was so much better under Trump 45 and that recent memory was a strong asset going into the 20024 election. Everything I feared that Trump would do in his first administration - abuse of executive power, vengeance, bad foreign policy, & sporadic domestic policy (tariffs, budget cuts, etc . . .) has true in his second term. Nobody with will insight, experience, or ability wants to work with this administration. Trump is on the way to losing the midterms and hopefully a Democratic Congress will place a check on his abuse of power. I also predict that he will be impeached again. The real question at the heart of the matter is what is to become of Trump's MAGA mob? Also think that a lot of voters didn't have a problem voting for a felon when they realized how the Democratic Party & Biden administration had been covering up Biden's mental in decline. Conversely, one could attribute Trump's rebound to Biden trying to run for a second term. Biden's definitely destroyed his political legacy. I'm reading that no one even wants to donate to his presidential library, and I doubt he will be alive to even see a library opened, if one is even built.  

[viking8x6]

Neither narrative ("voted in massive numbers to Dump trump" nor "4 years later [en masse] changed their mind") is at all accurate. They were just media fiction.  Depends on what you consider "massive numbers" of course, but even Obama in 2008 had a higher popular vote margin than in either 2020 or 2024.

[BlueSaphir]

A lot of Americans indeed forgot about Trump bad politics and how Biden administration STILL used Trump Tax code in place of their administration. Which i blame one of the few factors why the Democrat party lost steam. 
 

We shall see what midterms holds. If majority stick with republicans, I will consider leaving for Australia. 

[Poz50something]

19 hours ago, BlueSaphir said:

A lot of Americans indeed forgot about Trump bad politics and how Biden administration STILL used Trump Tax code in place ….

I also blame, to a certain extent, the ‘coronation’ of Kamala. I don’t think that Biden was unaware of his situation as his cancer diagnosis degraded and put him in a vulnerable position. I am convinced his chemotherapy was also responsible for the gaffs and the lack of energy. If the Dems had gone through the process of 12 candidates etc., it probably would’ve ended with Harris being the Democrat nominee. Then the rigorous process would have said to have worked. Of course, MAGAts are going to MAGA. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Poz50something

[PozBearWI]

Truly, whether Mr Biden knew he had cancer or not doesn't matter.  There are a lot of us with prostate cancer who are simply monitoring it.  Us older men and prostate cancer are a thing you know....  There are also a lot of people living and working who have cancer.  It's an assumption to use this now as if it were significant.  Any of us who watched the now famous debate saw and heard exactly how Biden performed.  I believe had the election proceeded as primaried, and the debate failure had never occurred, Biden likely would have won.  But we'll never know...  

I believe most of us took Biden as a one term guy.  There are in the Democratic party others who would have been stronger challengers, had they been part of the primaries.  This is where the Dems I think took a major misstep.  

Once Biden did pull out, primaries were over.  The logical choice then was to put the VP in, which is what would have occurred had President Biden passed away.  Logically correct but I think the misstep occurred by Biden running in the primaries at all.  

 

[harrysmith25]

23 hours ago, viking8x6 said:

They were just media fiction. 

I was asking you why someone would vote for an old man in volumes of 81 million,

But then the number goes down significantly less for the next person with (D) after their name.

I wasn't asking "do you think there's someone out there who's never heard the word "narrative" before, and is going to be totally amazed.

Edited 7 hours ago by harrysmith25

[viking8x6]

11 minutes ago, harrysmith25 said:

I was asking you why someone would vote for an old man in volumes of 81 million,

But then the number goes down significantly less.

I could come up with all kinds of possible reasons. Here are a couple:

1. They weren't voting for the same person.

2. Most people have the attention span of a gnat.

[BlueSaphir]

1 hour ago, Poz50something said:

I also blame, to a certain extent, the ‘coronation’ of Kamala. I don’t think that Biden was unaware of his situation as his cancer diagnosis degraded and put him in a vulnerable position. I am convinced his chemotherapy was also responsible for the gaffs and the lack of energy. If the Dems had gone through the process of 12 candidates etc., it probably would’ve ended with Harris being the Democrat nominee. Then the rigorous process would have said to have worked. Of course, MAGAts are going to MAGA. 

How do you know if Biden had chemotherapy during his presidency? Don’t assume. I faced cancer and I know what it is like! 

[harrysmith25]

7 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

I could come up with all kinds of possible reasons. Here are a couple:

1. They weren't voting for the same person.

2. Most people have the attention span of a gnat.

It took you two tries to answer which means you don't enjoy thinking that much more than these people you're talking about.

Since the people on the TV talked about Trump "going to jail" for every single day of the 4 years of the Biden regi... uh administration, those people who you imagine are a huge portion of the voting base, would have to have more than a "short attention span", they'd have to all be actively mentally retarded or something.

 

How could they forget the idea of him being a "mad tyrant" etc, when the media said it every day?

[sluttony]

21 hours ago, BlueSaphir said:

A lot of Americans indeed forgot about Trump bad politics and how Biden administration STILL used Trump Tax code in place of their administration. Which i blame one of the few factors why the Democrat party lost steam. 
 

We shall see what midterms holds. If majority stick with republicans, I will consider leaving for Australia. 

You probably won't. It is unlikely you will get a visa being HIV+

[BlueSaphir]

1 hour ago, sluttony said:

You probably won't. It is unlikely you will get a visa being HIV+

I checked Australia policies. And nothing is mentioned about it. 

[BlindRawFucker1]

haErysmith,

 

”DO NOT” use the word “retarded!”

There is no excuse for that terminology.