King of Hill actor, Jonathan Joss, murdered in homophobic attack.

[brnbk]

The shocking circumstances surrounding the  murder of Out and Proud native American actor Jonathan Joss makes one wonder if native Americans are still considered "fair game" for shooting by the cowboys of the Americas?

The events surrounding this shocking crime just makes one's heart and head boil with anger. A proud Out gay actor and husband had been repeatedly threatened and taunted by their neighbors and made to flee his parental house. The house has been built by his father for his mother and Joss wanted to continue the legacy of love for his partner. He did not realize the high price he would have to pay for it, last Sunday when he was there to collect mail along with his husband, Tristan Kern de Gonzales. Tristan told the media that he and his husband had repeatedly been harassed with anti gay slurs and hostility, and made to feel unwelcome in the neighborhood. Their house has been burnt down, along with his three dogs⁴, in an arson attack that is still being investigated¹, and they had to make numerous calls to the police over harassment by their neighbors but the police refused to do much about it. Last Sunday when they where there according to Tristan's statement on FB: 

"to check our mail we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view. This caused both of us severe emotional distress. We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.

While we were doing this a man approached us. He started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us. He then raised a gun from his lap and fired "²

Tristan also told the Independent 

""While I'm holding him, he has the gun pointed over me, and he's laughing, saying, 'Oh, you love him? Joto,'" Kern de Gonzales alleged. "'Joto' is Spanish for f****t. I never knew the word until I came to Texas, and then I heard it a lot."³

The San Antonio police after absolving the killer, Sigfredo Alvarez Ceja, of any hate-crime motivations has retracted their statement saying their initial pronouncement was "premature".⁵

 

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¹ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jonathan-joss-homophobia-shooting-1.7554172

² [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15mj3bAgm6/

³ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jonathan-joss-shooting-suspect-sigfredo-ceja-alvarez-bail-b2763843.html

⁴ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jonathan-joss-shooting-police-report-suspect-b2763045.html

⁵ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://globalnews.ca/news/11216725/jonathan-joss-killing-hate-crime-police-statement/

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7 by brnbk

[hntnhole]

"Hate crimes and Out gay couples of colour."

This commentary might be deemed misplaced (by the mods), so I apologize in advance if that's the case.

 

The issue of racism in general, and in the US in particular, has been the noose around our collective necks for centuries.  Now that the actual depravity of "owning" other human beings for the purpose of enslaved servitued has been outlawed via the Civil War (aka the War between the States) for 160 years, one could be forgiven for believing that the foundational issue (one race deserving of slavery, another race deserving of domination of the subjugated race), would have been excised from the National psyche ages ago.  

So the confounding question becomes, why that is still not the case with a decent percentage of the citizenry?  How is it that the descendants of the imported, enslaved peoples are still - lo these many decades later - still considered second-class citizens?  There are, of course, brilliant exceptions such as MLK Jr, numerous others, but the mindset of hatred at worst, denigration at least,  is still acceptable to a decent number of Americans?  While the straights have modified their hatreds of gay folks to some degree (mostly out of hesitancy to be demeaned by other pale people), apparently the learned hatreds of other minorities simply will not be given up.  

Our propensity to demean others unlike us in some way is confounding at the very least.  We see it in the Levant, with very similar people killing each other with impunity, and only in the name of some deity/belief system.  We see it in our major population centers, and minor ones.  As populations expand world-wide, we see these ancient depravities resurface (encouraged by leaders of world powers, no less), particularly in our own country.  

I simply cannot understand how this ancient curse can be so readily accepted by folks who should know far, far better.  The depravities of the current Administration are broadcast daily in every major media, as they round up not only folks that came for a better chance at a safe, decent life, and a chance to work hard enough to earn it, but anyone that wasn't born here.  Neither were our Caucasian ancestors.  How is it that any human being - attempting to be of good will, some measure of decency - can endorse this filth?  

We are all equal.  We are all of value.  Each of us - whatever characteristics that separate us - are worthy of respect, and basic human dignity.  

[PrisonbaiT]

So sad to hear,  current political administrations are turning up the hate against minorities. They are to blame to these crimes.  I hope people wake up the next time they vote

[TaKinGDeePanal]

4 hours ago, hntnhole said:

Now that the actual depravity of "owning" other human beings for the purpose of enslaved servitued has been outlawed via the Civil War (aka the War between the States) for 160 years

There is a loophole in the 13th Amendment which means that slavery is still legal in "state-mandated cases".

[nanana]

2 hours ago, TaKinGDeePanal said:

There is a loophole in the 13th Amendment which means that slavery is still legal in "state-mandated cases".

Doesn't that have its greatest (and perhaps only, but on shaky ground on the "only" part) manifestation in imprisonment for crimes?  Without wishing to defend the US approach to crime, which needs some serious reinvention IMHO, I  think a criminal judgement at a stage or federal level precipitates the removal of a variety of "rights" such as voting rights, etc., depending upon the rules of the jurisdiction.  

[TaKinGDeePanal]

1 hour ago, nanana said:

Doesn't that have its greatest (and perhaps only, but on shaky ground on the "only" part) manifestation in imprisonment for crimes?  Without wishing to defend the US approach to crime, which needs some serious reinvention IMHO, I  think a criminal judgement at a stage or federal level precipitates the removal of a variety of "rights" such as voting rights, etc., depending upon the rules of the jurisdiction.  

If a state decides they need more prisoners to generate more revenue, it seems they can pretty much change what constitutes a crime - and the reintroduction of Chain Gangs by Arizona and Alabama (and possibly Florida) is redolent of slavery.

Take the Cornell University definition of slavery and consider where it fits into the above: "Slavery is the practice of forced labor and restricted liberty . It is also a regime where one class of people - the slave owners - could force another - the slaves - to work and limit their liberty." [think before following links] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/slavery

Also bear in mind that the Emancipation Proclamation only freed black slaves in what was technically a foreign country (and - being a lawyer - Lincoln knew the difference). Refer the following: 
[think before following links] https://theemancipator.org/2022/06/16/topics/histories/lincoln-gets-way-too-much-credit-freeing-enslaved-black-people/
[think before following links] https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/essays/give-all-chance-lincoln-abolition-and-economic-freedom
[think before following links] https://www.loc.gov/collections/abraham-lincoln-papers/articles-and-essays/abraham-lincoln-and-emancipation/
[think before following links] https://www.loc.gov/collections/abraham-lincoln-papers/articles-and-essays/abraham-lincoln-and-emancipation/

While he was morally opposed to slavery, if it didn't drive the economic engine of the Confederacy, he would never have given a flying fuck about actually freeing them at all.

[BBBxCumDumpster]

5 hours ago, PrisonbaiT said:

So sad to hear,  current political administrations are turning up the hate against minorities. They are to blame to these crimes.  I hope people wake up the next time they  vote.

This current administration is carefully crafting hatred, encouraging people to turn against each other. It's part of this arrogant, monstrous and misguided eugenics garbage.  If this president represented the superior race, then we would have been extinct centuries if not millenia ago.

Don't be shocked if this killer is pardoned.  Be offended,  outraged, saddened, but don't be shocked. 

[ellentonboy]

I love how the police keep changing their story as to whether or not this was a hate crime.  At first they flatly denied it.  Then, what a week later, they said they were looking into it.  Now, time has gone by, and I give credit to his partner for not backing down.

That couple was harassed from day one.  Spray painting their house.  His partner did everything  "by the book".  He did file a police report, they were aware that the couple was being harassed.  He has said in an interview "the police did nothing".

Now some correct me if I am wrong, but did I read that the suspect is out on $200, 000 bond?  How is that possible?  In Texas, where they. shoot first and ask questions later.  I cannot imagine who helped him post the bond or even why a judge would allow this.
 

I hope the surviving member of this couple continues to fight for justice because this is just plain wrong. 

[Nude]

It's getting deep, the dude is on house arrest.  

[think before following links] https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/06/03/i-shot-him-suspect-admitted-to-killing-actor-jonathan-joss-amid-ongoing-feud-report-states/

[BBBxCumDumpster]

2 hours ago, ellentonboy said:

Now some correct me if I am wrong, but did I read that the suspect is out on $200, 000 bond?  How is that possible?  In Texas, where they. shoot first and ask questions later.  I cannot imagine who helped him post the bond or even why a judge would allow this.
 

This is being controlled from the top. Someone is trying to craft an anti-DEI narrative.  I'm guessing some right wing shadow group posted bail. 

Since this victim is not a heterosexual white male,  I don't have high hopes for justice  or even press coverage.  I'm  KKKaroline Leavitt is crafting some cold heartless fictional one shot statement to put this to bed.  To this administration and to Texas, this is not tragic; it's inconvenient. 

[topblkmale]

9 minutes ago, BBBxCumDumpster said:

This is being controlled from the top. Someone is trying to craft an anti-DEI narrative.  I'm guessing some right wing shadow group posted bail. 

Since this victim is not a heterosexual white male,  I don't have high hopes for justice  or even press coverage.  I'm  KKKaroline Leavitt is crafting some cold heartless fictional one shot statement to put this to bed.  To this administration and to Texas, this is not tragic; it's inconvenient. 

 

The perp isn't a heterosexual white male either.

 

[BBBxCumDumpster]

4 minutes ago, topblkmale said:

 

The perp isn't a heterosexual white male either.

 

I didn't realize that. I shouldn't have assumed. I still think this murder will be co-opted by some for reasons other than seeking justice. I hope I'm wrong.

[norefusal]

17 hours ago, PrisonbaiT said:

So sad to hear,  current political administrations are turning up the hate against minorities. They are to blame to these crimes.  I hope people wake up the next time they vote

not to be all "gun don't kill people" about it but... 

you are right. leaders fuel the hate. but he's everyone's president and just as i hear his words and think "that's not right. that's stupid. that doesn't even make sense" i refused to let the millions of people who voted for him off the hook. ultimately, the people doing the hate crimes are the ones to blame, twinkie defense be damned 

[BlueSaphir]

May he rest in peace. Very sad. 

[hntnhole]

"Are Out gay couples of color more likely to face hate crimes?"

Sadly, I would think so. 

Those brothers-in-the-life are doubly damned in the minds of the race-baiting hatemongers, who will gladly attempt to compensate for their failures by disparaging any/every "other" they can identify.