On 2017-02-17 at 9:43 AM, Read1 said:

Montreal CumUnion (Thurs., Feb. 16, 2017) - PART ONE

Well, rawboyz. Here I am, as promised, in Montreal for 2 days, the first night was to attend Montreal's CumUnion held at GI Joe sauna.

After reading several accounts of Cumunion events I'm still not clear on how it's different from a regular evening at the bathhouse.

Some guys have mentioned the at the Cumunion events there's a more explicit position with barebacking. But nowadays in saunas most guys bareback, especially in the darker areas of the establishment. Guys fon't have to wait for Cumunion to breed anon holes in darkrooms.

I met my general practitioner (GP) at the Sexual Health Clinic when I was in my 30's. It's been the best decision I have ever made regarding my health. It makes no sense to have a medical professional making decisions about your health without all the pertinent information. 

On 2017-02-13 at 0:27 PM, muscmtl said:

Most hilarious was that at least two of the cellbathers advertised on bbrt as cumdump looking for any loads, and yet here they were, on their cell, cruising, and cruising, and...

I was in this same sauna in Montreal October 2016 and I was surprised by the number of guys in their rooms but glued to their cellphone.

On 2017-02-10 at 0:02 PM, PozGoat said:

Rent a sling room at your local fave tub. I love guys that rent sling rooms and lay in their sling with their door open, advertising themselves.

Advertising yourself, especially as a slutty bottom helps a lot.

I like using some signs I have with phrase such as "Cream My Hole". I have French version when I go to Montreal. My last time one French guy came into my room, fucked me for a while and the bred my hole. As he was leaving all I understood him saying was that the sign turned him on and made him come into the room.

With a room you can have the top decide if he wants to leave the door open or not. Some guy may not fuck you in a public sling but he may feel more comfortable once he closes the door.

On 2017-02-10 at 0:02 PM, PozGoat said:

I still get all the cock I need at 46, just by using all of the above methods.

At 46 I was getting a lot of cock and loads. I got more attention in my 20's but my attitude was better in my 40's and 50's.

When we refer to "older bottoms" let's not forget the bottoms in their 60's and more. Getting horny does not stop in the 40's and 50's. It keeps going and for bottoms in their 60's and over the job of getting loads it really becomes tough.

If there is one it should be some sort of a database because a thread alone becomes useless

14 hours ago, PhoenixGeoff said:

On the other hand, some start getting into topping more and more (that's happened with me for sure).

Do you like topping young bottoms like most tops?

Super Skinny With A Big Dick

http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Super-Skinny-With-A-Big-Dick-29982731

A really skinny guy with a monstrous black cock fucks and breeds a really big guy. Hot!

On 2017-01-18 at 7:09 PM, cman102 said:

My first time topping I got a UTI. Went away after a week or two on its own. Pretty painful though

UTI is one of the many reasons I decide to stay away from topping.

2 hours ago, Scottyrim said:

As an older versatile bottom,I am starting to worry I may get less cock than I want.

I worried a lot about my age between 35-40 maybe because I started missing the perks of being a bottom in my 20's, as Scottyrim says. I found it hot when at the bathhouse a young attendant would come around to my room and give me a quick load. Wait until you're in your 60's and older because the funny thing is that you're horny as when you were young. Lowering expectations is a must.

I had a lot of sex in my 50's but because I was in good shape I managed to bottom quite a bit. What worked for me at the bathhouses were some signs that glow in the dark with messages that made it clear that I was a bareback bottom.

Another alternative which a buddy of mine took is to be more of a top. In his 50's he has no trouble finding young holes to fuck and breed. He likes fucking two holes and then when he cums he squirts some of it in one hole and the finish squirting in the other. If you can find ways to enjoy topping that's an alternative.

There are so many videos online that it seems ridiculous to be paying for porn.

But I find that some payed videos are hot because they show faces of both the tops and bottoms as they fuck and breed holes or get their holes bred. Many amateur videos don't show the faces. 

4 hours ago, NLbear said:

While bottoms need to go through a whole cleaning exercise (which I am not always in the mood for by the way).

I've heard of some bottoms become a top (or versatile)  after getting tired of all the work involved in being a bottom.

My ideal in a breeding video is to hear the top talk dirty to the bottom and the bottom responding to the top. Don't like bottoms screaming like a girl. I like to hear the moaning and groaning of the top as he breeds the hole and cums inside. This is the perfect video:

*anonymous* load

http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/-anonymous-load-29823471

6 hours ago, orlanguy said:

Thanks for the replies guys. I am a little ashamed to say i slipped again and have poz cum in my ass from this morning. I may have to justify the expense of prep

My problem is usually anonymous cock. But if a guy says hes poz i wont even offer him a condom. It is so infuriating to have no control over my sexual desires

Anonymous sex in general, whether is group action, cock or ass, is so hot that it becomes difficult to avoid and one is easily exposed to infections. I'm trying to avoid HIV and all other infections but I know I can easily slip and put myself at risk. 

5 hours ago, einathens said:

I'm sorry for your dilemma and the pain it's causing you, but you have a decision to make. ask yourself this question:  are the minutes in the darkroom worth giving up the rest of your life? it might help if you picture that cock fucking your wife and children.

Not to mention the possible fuck-flu 4-6 weeks after and then the 3 months wait for the test. Worth it? When you're horny in the darkroom it is worth it.  Five minutes later comes the regret.

13 hours ago, dude8688 said:

Guess I'm different. I'd find it much hotter if I could relax knowing the Top was on PrEP and our fun was safe ( STIs aside!)

I'm like you but in order to relax I would prefer anon partners be tested for all STIs. My dream would be to attend a special event, something like a CumUnion party, but everybody attending being safestsex.org members recently tested for all STDs and a blood test on entry to the party. In my view that would be awesome, a sex club with slings, glorholes and darkrooms full of horny guys who are tested.

On 2017-01-04 at 1:35 AM, punaman said:

There's nothing like a hard cock in your ass, nothing comparable in heterosexual sex, a vagina can't insert itself into your cock craving asshole. There's also nothing like the feeling of breaking the taboo and having unprotected sex, esp. with poz cock.  No matter how you try and rationalize it, you'll always end up wanting it over and over again.  You've got to either accept it, find a way to get PREP or stop, which is the hardest thing to do.

I agree that the feeling of a cock pounding your hole can be an amazing experience. But instead of "esp. with poz cock. " I woudl say "esp. with anon cock." For me the fetish is not with poz but with cocks being anonymous, which of course can be poz.

10 hours ago, subbytch said:

Others will disagree, but I just can't see relying on data provided by someone else regarding STIs is a better policy than regular testing yourself. Taking PrEP, being checked at least quarterly -- if not more frequently -- is still the best way to make sure I'm not carrying around hitchhiker. Someone telling me they aren't, someone showing me a site or a printout, might reduce the odds a bit, but the only way to be certain is to be tested.

I think this paragraph tells me that you don't understand the concept behind SafestSex.org because you say that the best policy is testing which is the fundamental part of the safestsex.org strategy: get tested, get tested, get tested.The only thing is that as a safestsex.org member you will be required to enter the specific details of each of the tests so then this information can be exchanged with other members and see when your potential fuck-buddy got tested for the different STDs.

It's true that guys on PrEP get tested frequently but guys who aren't on PrEP can also test frequently and if he's a member he can the enter the data from tests into his STD profile.

SafestSex.org membership has many "side effects" such as learning more about STDs and being aware of ways to prevent STDs. I also like it because it keeps track of my tests which I sometimes forget the dates. "It's been 8 months? I thought my last tests were done a couple of months ago".

SafestSex.org provides you with a tool to help prevent STDs. But it's up to you how you how to use the membership. Any members here? My SSXID is KUK777Q19 and I'd like to exchange with other members. You would have to tell me because a member won't see my data in their screen until I get to see the other member's data on my screen. Having my ID does not make my data public.

SafestSex.org is not a magic bullet that will make you immune to all STDs. I keep dreaming. I find myself sometimes with strong feelings to go to a bathhouse and have all kinds of sex with guys in the darkroom and in the gloryholes. Right now I could never have anon sex at a very low risk by knowing all guys are tested and as committed as I am to staying away from STDs. But I could see that it may be possible to have really slutty sex with not so much risk. It may possible.

2 hours ago, EastBayRawVers said:

PrEP = Liberation.  Period.

Maybe in your case PrEP makes you feel free because all you care is protecting yourself from HIV. You decided to ignore Hep-C and Herpes and you feel that Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and Syphilis are not a big deal. But most people outside this Fetish/Fantasy world called "Breeding Zone" would have trouble understanding how could someone care so little about STDs. 

It's always better to avoid taking medications, especially these powerful medications found in PrEP. That's why my question #3, "What happens after PrEP?", is important. I recently went to a specialist who prescribed some medications for life and blood tests every 3 months to check my liver and kidneys, similar to PrEP. I said "Fuck you!" I found another solution to my problem. The question "For how long will I be on PrEP?" would be what I would ask myself.

The only sensible way to use PrEP is as a complement to another more sustainable strategy like Safestsex.org. I know that as a safestsex.org member I'm only reducing the risk of STDs because the information I get from other members is clear and includes all STDs. I can organize small orgies and meet other members at the local bathhouse reducing the risk, but I could not go to any sauna and take all cocks or fuck a hole that turns me on. As a member I can still have anon sex but then I have to be responsible and wait for the required time before I do my tests again. Only then I can meet with other safestsex.org members. But I run the risk of catching HIV, so PrEP can be of help.

A SafestSex.org member who takes a two-week "sexation" to Fort Lauderdale can go on PrEP a few days before until a few days after the holiday. This is what I mean using PrEP as a complement to a safestsex.org membership. But PrEP is used for a certain period of time, unlike the case of most guys on PrEP who have no idea when they'll stop.

Safestsex.org is not for everybody, just like PrEP.  I know PrEP let's slutty bottoms take anon loads without the fear of HIV, but I'm sure that something like safestsex.org may eventually evolve in my area to the point where you can actually have anon sex at a reduced risk. It's just a matter of people joining in and it could be possible.

Any other comments from guys on PrEP? How long will you be on PrEP?

9 hours ago, bberik said:

Depends. If you lose your ability to get hard it must be worse to age as a top.

It's a good point.

Are erectile issues in tops present in one-to-one or also in group sex? I ask because many times I see in bathhouses even bottoms topping some sloppy holes or share it with another top. So I imagine tops can also get some stimulation from the other tops apart from a Viagra pill. A top can suck some cock and that would make him hard.

I'm assuming erectile issues are more common in one-to-one encounters. I may be wrong.

2 hours ago, fuckrogerbb said:

To me it's simple. Have you ever been bred? If you have you know how there are so many bottoms. It's incredible.

You're right, it is an incredible experience. Although for many shooting a load in a hole is also an incredible experience, which many bottoms can attest to from the experiences of getting bred. But I guess having a load in my hole, a part of another man, makes it hotter I guess. The top gets up and leaves but the load stays inside.

On 1/4/2017 at 1:35 AM, punaman said:

No matter how you try and rationalize it, you'll always end up wanting it [anon sex] over and over again.  You've got to either accept it, find a way to get PREP or stop, which is the hardest thing to do.

PrEP is not accessible to everyone. Accepting the possibility of pozing for someone who lives a "perfectly good heterosexual sex life" is not easy because the consequences of your actions fall on many other people like spouse and children and having to face the heterosexual world as an HIV+ individual.

On 1/4/2017 at 1:29 AM, orlanguy said:

Months ago I found myself knowingly taking poz cocks at the baths and have since slowed down. I have to wonder, how do some of you deal with it? I cannot be the only one feeling this way.

I would suggest you evaluate how important it is for you to stay HIV-negative and how devastating would it be if you became poz. If you don't care about HIV then just go for it and become a slut to horny guys in darkrooms.

If you need to remain HIV-negative because pozing would complicate your personal life, you need some protection from HIV.

One solution is PrEP but the problem is that you are still exposed to other infections not protected by PrEP. You need now to evaluate whether or not being exposed to other infections like Syphilis has to be avoided at all cost or you can afford being the risk of infection. If you can handle the curable infections and accept a low risk of Herpes and Hepc-C, PrEP is a good solution, at least for a few years.

If you need to avoid all STDs your best solution is a membership with safestsex.org because the information you would get from other members is relevant to making a decision to have or not to have sex with someone when trying to protect from STDs. The problem with the strategy offered by safestsex.org is that new member cannot expect to be protected from STDs in extremely anonymous situations, like a darkroom. What I've heard is that in some large cities (not sure if the US or Canada) they have organized SafestSex.org Parties, sort of like CumUnion but much smaller I imagine. I don't have the details of how that works but I can imagine that if everyone is tested it should be fun to get all in a bathhouse or some club. 

Something I've learned throughout the years is that I always thought I needed to have the experience  because it was my last chance. Unless you are getting close to 50 you don't need to rush and instead make sure to make the best decision.

In another thread where poptronic discussed "performance issues" as a top and I suggested that he bottom, he answers:

On 2016-12-31 at 2:49 PM, poptronic said:

Believe me, I wouldn't mind just going and being a slutty bottom, but there are already so many of those guys there, which is one of the things I love about those parties. So many bottoms, so many choices.

Why are there so many bottoms when in the straight world men do anything to fuck a pussy. It should be full of horny tops looking for a hole to fuck. But that's not the way it is. Every sauna, every sex club, packed with bottoms.

6 hours ago, cumluvnbottom said:

...I am 50 but  I like to think I'm decent looking (gym at least  times / week, etc etc).  At this point, with the exception of  extremely rare attention in saunas (bathhouses) I haven't had sex that I haven't paid for in months. And, even then, I've had escorts flake out on me when someone hotter is available. 

I think that 50 is too soon to be receiving so many rejections. At 50 I felt old and less desirable but the experiences I was having told me a different story because I was having lots of sex and getting good feedback from guys. I would say that 60's is definitely a turning point in the arena of sex with men and is when you go from a "daddy" to a "grandpa" category. Most young guys who are into "older" they usually mean men somewhere between 40-55. Of course there are exceptions and I even know a guy in his 30's who likes men 55 and up.

Older than 55 and 60 tops don't seem to have any problem getting young bottoms even in their 20's. Most older tops prefer younger bottoms which is what makes it harder for older bottoms. I'm sure some older guys chose being a top because it gets them more action. Any older top in this situation?

On 2016-12-23 at 11:11 AM, constructionguy said:

Any other guys experience a link between barebacking and being an exhibitionist? When I made the decision to only fuck bareback...Any other guys have this experience?  

When I started barebacking I felt "exhibitionist" by being outspoken about wanting raw sex, something very common now but very rare then. I also feel an "exhibitionist" when at the bathhouse I put signs in my room that say exactly what I'm looking for, such as "Cream my Hole". Posting those signs in my room made me horny and I felt exhibitionist.

On 2015-06-28 at 7:02 AM, subboy81 said:

im 33 and id love to be gangbanged by a group of guys in their 50's and 60's

I find that for a gang-bang to be fun there must be a bottom that excites a group of tops, all eager waiting for their turn to fuck. It usually happens with a young bottom on the sling.  

1 hour ago, topstud127 said:

^^ Not the greatest or easiest idea, but if you have two insurances or a friend with two, do double refills, preferably at different pharmacies that way you have extra. You can also go down to taking them 4-5 days a week. Any free/low income-gay clinics in your area?

This brings up the issue of abuse of insurance, the elephant in the room. Drug plans are great when all of a sudden you need to take an expensive medication because you're sick. Is it fair  for insurance companies to cover PrEP, which means that every other premium has to pay a little more to cover those on PrEP, many who just want to be the cumhole for the weekend at the local bathhouse?

Every day I see on BarebackRT more and more guys on PrEP. Not sure if all are really on PrEP.

1. If PrEP makes you bareback without worrying about HIV, what do you do about the other STDs?  I know that a few shots will fix it but still, no infections are good.
2. When on PrEP, do you feel you have to have sex more often to justify taking the medications? Otherwise, why take PrEP sex is you are not having sex very often?
3. What happens after PrEP? Or are you planning to be on PrEP for life?  It must be tough to be fucking freely on PrEP and then for some reason you have to stop, and you forget you stopped PrEP. You have to re-adjust to not being on PrEP.

Still trying to understand the furor that PrEP is causing.