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The risk is a big part of why it's so appealing, as I'm sure you can agree.

For me the risk of STDs has NOTHING to do with why I enjoy barebacking. On the contrary, the risk keeps me away from trying even more sexual experiences.

Now that I joined safestsex.org I'll see what it does about the fear. I managed to meet up so far with 2 guys who were also members so I could read all the details of their "screening results". I had syphilis decades ago so in my case the test results for Syphilis are always positive. My record says "Screened for syphilis" which means the clinic determined I was not contagious but my sexual partners don't need know about my past sexual history.

I'm sure many guys used to refer to being HIV-negative as "being clean", but realized that it somewhat offensive only after they pozed.

I just took a brief look...it wasn't required to put a date on the tests...making it even less helpful.

That's strange because it worked for me with no problems. Even the sample for works well and it accepts dates. http://safestsex.org/firstrepinfo-en.php. You have to "click" on HIV- or HIV- on PrEP fro the date to appear.

From what I understand and after going through the registration process, the first time the dates required for the tests are Year-Month. It assumes, and it turned-out to be right in my case, I didn't have the exact dates of the tests. Then for the following tests results one must have the exact date. It makes sense.

There's no guarantee anyone on that site is honest about their STD situation so what's the point of it? 

There are never any guarantees, just better protection. Even if guys were tested and data was certified an entered by a clinic there wouldn't be any guarantee either. An identical twin who's poz could get tested instead, or the test results could be wrong.  Wearing condoms is no guarantee either.

So far I like what I see in safestsex.org. First, nothing else but an email address is required. I don't know how comfortable I would feel about having to provide all my personal data. But an email address is no big deal.

Guys are more likely to lie when horny and ready to fuck. But if one has to purposely store the data in a profile that cannot be easily changed, I doubt one would lie in the same way. There is some trace left no matter how anonymous the profile is.

I've been bottoming bareback and taking loads since the 90's and  I've been extremely lucky and I'm still HIV-neg with no other infections either.

I no longer have the amount of sex I had in my 30's till my 50's, when I was taking multiple anon loads in one night at the baths. Now I still like having sex but I'm becoming more concerned with HIV because I figure, after so many years, why get infected now and complicate my life with doctor's visits, treatments, having to disclose status, etc.

One ongoing fuck buddy texted me telling me he was horny and would like to meet me at a park. He's now living with his girlfriend and concerned about STDs. He mention that he would prefer if I joined safestsex.org and that way I was his STD situation and he saw mine. It took me 10 minutes to join and build what they call an STD Profile.  We met at the park today at lunch, he bred my hole. Nothing is 100% safe but every little thing may help.

I liked the idea almost immediately especially because I have no desire to poz or get any other STD. I also hesitate getting into PrEP because it only protects you against HIV and don't want any side effects.

Has anyone else heard of safestsex.org?

There could be many reasons the tops are poz, ...

 

 I've been told by many that they had been pretty much total tops until some time shortly after and during conversion, then they came down with the unshakeable desire to top and breed and then became total tops.

A guy who's 100% top does not necessarily mean that he never gets fucked because he may present himself as a top in sexual situations because that's how he feels better. An 100% top may allow himself to bottom for his boyfriend or close lovers, but never by a stranger.

Some men feel comfortable having sex with guys but only as a top. Some men don't feel comfortable not taking the "male role". Some 100% tops are not really tops and they secretly bottom and that's how they poz.

Some 100% bottoms think that if they ever top they are no longer 100% bottoms when in fact all they wanted was to get off inside a sloppy hole. Very similar of what goes on with tops.

The older I get, the more guys I've met who can't really get fucked due to "butt issues".  vers guys become tops and total bottoms just become cocksuckers if they can't get fucked I guess.  I hope some poz tops answer your post 

I was recently chatting with a guy who was forced to being a top because he had developed a fistula. He said "I went from a total cum-whore to a power top".

There is nothing hotter than getting a strangers cum load through a gloryhole!! Anytime I get a chance to bottom at s gloryhole I always hope to get a nice load shot deep in me

This was my last stranger's breeding in a gloryhole: http://barebackbastards.com/24723/craigslist-ad-mature-married-man/

The very verbal breeding starts at minute 3:40 and the pumping goes on for a whole minute. I was left with a very sloppy hole.

Maybe parts of the cum gets absorbed but not all. What about the odor of old cum in your hole? At least for me it's always there the next day after the breeding.

Years ago when condoms were still popular I was at a sauna in Montreal that had a nice play area. Hardly anyone took loads back then. I was already barebacking but I asked them to pull out. He was fucking me in a dark area and all of a sudden he pulls out and starts walking away implying he hadn't cum and wanted a break. I later went to bed and the next morning there was that odor. The guy had bred my hole.

Well, I have to chime in with the suggestion that if you assume that aging as a top and aging as a bottom are both bad things but just want to figure out which is "worse" then you've already started down a bad road.  What's "worse" is focusing on the fact that you aren't 25 anymore -- bottom or top.

 

Aging is changing and learning.  Aging is becoming different.  I think there's a terrible tendency in men (straight, bi and gay) to assume that the sexual life and sexual behavior pattern you had when you were young is some sort of ideal....

I agree that there are many good things about aging but it's difficult to see how aging can help a guy in the anon cruising environment of parks, saunas, Grindr, chat, etc. It's clear to me that aging is a disadvantage when it comes to cruising online or in anon places. I don't mean to say that after a certain age a man can no longer find sexual partners. From my own experience I know that hooking up is easier for men in their 20's and 30's. A 25 yr-old in good shape may not be everyone's choice for a sexual partner, but no one would use the word "disgusting" to describe him. They may say "I'm not into young guys". But older guys very often are viewed as disgusting to young guys, which I know because that's the way I felt when I was young. The idea of having sex with a guy over 40 seemed disgusting.

Evidence of this is everywhere. Bathhouses advertisements show muscled young men in their 20's and 30'2 but inside all you find is aging men in their 50's and 60's.

Definitely as deep as possible. Actually, while I'm getting fucked and know that I'm getting their load, I always say "Go deep when you shoot!" I say it because it's sometimes a turn-on for the top and he starts shooting almost right away. But it also makes it clear that I don't want them to pull out.

I want it all--a muscle hole that can loosen and tighten. 

Is it that difficult for a bottom to offer all, a loose hole that can tighten at will?

I know that is sometimes difficult for guys with tight holes to relax and loosen up. But I can't see how a loose hole wouldn't be able to tighten it up. As a bottom my "default" is a loose hole which I tighten up depending on the needs of the top. Doesn't every bottom do this?

I think that women are the biggest losers because of the popularity of porn among men. Men start watching porn as teenagers continue as young adults, and then comes the pressure of a committed monogamous relationship with a woman. In the pre-Internet days men had no choice but to adapt to the constraints of monogamy and no porn allowed. Society/Family used to put pressure, but now with less societal pressure men in their late 20's and 30's are not that interested in marriage or committed relationships with women.

Like everyone else, too many to choose. One that comes to mind was at a room with a sling in a bathhouse in Montreal.

As in most cases guys come around but most don't want to shoot their loads yet. There was one guy who kept coming into my room, fucking me for a few minutes and leaving. But as he was fucking me I would try to get him to shoot his load with phrases to encourage him to breed my hole. I kept saying "Go deep when you shoot your load, I want your load deep in my hole".

After a while the same guys shows up and starts fucking me and says "You want my load deep inside you, don't you?" And as he was shooting his load he was screaming "Take my fucking load deep in your hole" as he pushed his hard-on as deep as he could.

Anyone who at a bathhouse asks a poz top "Are you clean?" deserves to get stealth-bred.

If I were poz who enjoyed toping and was asked at some anon hook-up place "Are you clean?" I would say "Yes", meaning that I have a clean hole ready to get fucked and bred. I would then ask "Are you clean?" meaning if his hole is clean. I would then fuck him and breed him. If my dick comes out with shit, I would say "I thought you said you were clean". If after the breeding the hole was "clean", I would say, "Yeah, really clean hole!". That would be a lesson.

Hey guys looking for a little info. I just met a top with a nice cock and a PA. I have always wanted to have a guy with a PA fuck me. My question is...what to expect? Hurting??? tearing??? should I have extra lube? any info will be greatly appreciated!

I would also like to know what's the experience for a top fucking with a PA. Is there more sensation? How about when a top with a PA breeds the hole? Because if it's really hot for a top with a PA to fuck and breed a hole, I may want to bottom for one.

Then, simultaneously, I felt a warm rush inside my ass.  Yessss!  Just as from the other side of the wall I heard a breathless “Mmmmmm!” and “uhhhh!”  It was so interesting just to feel the cumshot and hear the sound but nothing else.  I pushed my ass hard against the wall, taking the guy as deeply as possible.  He kept fucking for a bit longer and then pulled out.

That is a huge turn-on, to feel the cum lubricating your hole while the guy on the other side of the partition moans and groans with each thrust. That's when I make sure to open my hole wide to avoid the guy pulling out too quickly.

I've heard of guys who use antibiotics to avoid bacterial infections just like using PrEP to avoid HIV.

I'm just at the point where I'm not remotely interested in hiding it anymore. I have even stopped seeing a regular fuck bud because of his insistence on using a condom to fuck me. I respect his choice, but it's not what I want anymore. Damn shame cos he was fucking hot but easy cum, easy go...

It seems to me that bareback has become more mainstream and no longer the "evil" behavior that used to be. For instance, these days in the pre-STD testing interview, my answer "No" to  the "Do you wear condoms?"  is not followed by a lecture about HIV. And at the baths, I almost never find someone discussing HIV status.

This thread has inspired me to remove that versatile listing and, aside from that obvious one-off, go back to being a 100% and very proud bottom! 

Thanks guys!

But that shouldn't mean that you will never fuck and breed another hole again. Many 100% proud bottoms believe that if they enjoy the occasional fucking they'll stop being 100% proud bottoms. I've read many accounts of 100% bottoms who to get get their rocks off breed a hole and their bottom identity is not threatened. 

For a bottom to attach "versatile" to their preferred role they must enjoy the fucking itself and be able to fuck for a few minutes. As when 100% bottoms fuck they usually don't last very long.

I'm quite angered and confused about what to do, I guess I should either give up completely on my desire to BB or accept siero conversion as inevitable.

Whats funny is that here if you look for BB sex 2/3 of the people you will meet are poz looking to convert you.

 

So yeah, what to do? 

Apart from being on PrEP, I think that expecting to stay HIV-neg while having unlimited and unrestrained anonymous sex in bathhouses and hook-ups is quite unrealistic.

Anonymous sex is special, and for me the most powerful form of sexual experience. It allows me to realize fantasies, fetishes and role playing situations that become difficult to replay once I get to know the partners. That's why encounters with any long-term fuck-buddies have been 100% anonymous using a gloryhole.

But I'm aware that by engaging in anonymous sex I'm implicitly giving  consent to others to also realize their own fantasies, their own fetishes and their own role playing situations where I'm just an object to them. I was once visiting a large city and announced my visit in one of my profiles. A local guy contacted me because he really liked the idea of finding me blindfolded on my bed and then give me a good fuck and breeding. My profile said "bottom, HIV-" and his said "versatile, HIV-" so I never discussed HIV status with him. We had sex as described and even texted me 3 days later to do it again. I returned to the city a few months later and contacted him again to see if I could get him to breed me again. He then told me that he was really a bottom and that he topped me just because he was too turned-on by the anon scene. He also told me that he was poz, not on Meds and that he never told me because he thought I was poz just because I wanted anonymous sex.

I would never blame anyone but myself even if posex from anon stealthing.

Also, I have been a little surprised (but also makes my cock hard) reading about the stealth pozzing stories here and intentional pozzing, but I'm pretty sure this is not the general rule for the majority of barebackers.  Intentional pozzing is more a fringe fetish "I think".

I also think that intentional pozing is not very common. Some stealthing situations could be when poz men in a bathhouse feel the need to ignore their HIV+ status. I'm not poz but it must get tiring to have to always disclose HIV status before sex so I can imagine how freeing must anon encounters feel.

I personally think that poz guys need a space where they can feel free from having to deal with poz status. For that reason I have no problem with guys stealthing in anon situations.

"So yeah, what to do?" I guess, trying to limit the risk because the risk is inevitable.

... I think it would be a hot way to advertise so other barebackers know that you take loads.

I don't know if I would like something so permanent as a tattoo.

I have black T-shirts and black signs with some kind of message that make it clear that I take loads. Something like "Cream my hole" or "Cumdump". I bring these with me to both bathhouses and outdoor sex. Outdoors depending on the type of park, I either wear the T-shirt or leave the T-shirt or sign next to me making it visible only to those cruisers who approach me for a blow-job. In a Montreal sauna I was once bred by a French Canadian who before leaving in broken French told me that the sign on the wall "Cream my hole" translated to French was what made in him walk into my room while I was on the sling, fuck my hole and breed it.

Anyone who barebacks wants to get pozzed, brother. You wouldn't engage in such activities otherwise. Just embrace it, get pozzed, don't take meds, die like a true soldier.

Men have been barebacking way before HIV was around. So the notion that men bareback because we want to poz is nonsense. What's happened is that because one can easily poz when barebacking, some are making a fetish out of pozing.

Some tight holes are not easily loosened up.Because loose holes be tightened, loose holes are better because you can have two for one. Most experienced bottoms can play with their hole and apply the right pressure on the cock.

HIV: 3 months

Syphilis: 6 weeks

Gono, Clam: 10 days

I have a lot of trouble with statistics about the number of "gay people" because it's not even clear what "being gay" is.

What I usually hear from men who self-identify as gay is that "I have always felt different from other boys so I knew I was gay".  How can a boy know how other boys feel? They only know how the other boys act and behave but behavior is not necessarily the same as "feeling".  When boys talk about wanting to fuck women is that coming from real feelings or just talk? Many gay-identified men have in the past pretended to want to fuck women. Can we really believe the so-called straight men?

Many 'straight' people refuse to identify as Bi or Gay, but in actuality, they take cock like the greedy bottom that steels all the tops at your local fave tub. Or they like to fuck ass as much as the next fag.

Being gay is a self-identity and as such it cannot be forced upon anyone. For many men taking on the gay identity is beneficial and provides them with a sense of belonging. But I would say that for most men who enjoy sex with other men, "being gay" does not resonate with them.

How can we explain the behavior of men who have sex with men but do not self-identify as gay? The answer to that is that men offer other men sexual possibilities that women can't possibly offer men. In other words, when it comes to sex, men like to play Hardball. Just like in sports, men play Softball when they want to include women in the game. But many men prefer playing Hardball with other men which is almost like a different game. Once a man has sex with another man, it's unlikely he won't like to do it again. Ask a Baseball player what they think of playing Softball with women in the team. Probably very boring and unexciting.

Young men sometimes don't realize it because young women are more willing to participate in men's sexual games. But as women get older it becomes more difficult for men to have fun with sex and older women.

I think that the real difference between men is not between gay and straight, but between those men who give themselves permission to play with men and those who don't.