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On 4/30/2023 at 11:14 AM, muscmtl said:

Any recommendations for orgies where

They all suck

They all kiss

They all rim

AND THEY ALL BOTTOM.

It's not easy to find a large number of guys who would be willing to do everything because we all have different fetishes. SOme guys don't like getting fucked or required condoms. Others like to get rimmed, but would never rim a hole. Most bottoms like to get fucked but would never fuck a hole.

I like what good saunas have to offer, private space of a room, cruising areas in hallways and other public space, cleaning areas and showers, and play areas with plenty of dark space and toys. And in this space everybody can try to enjoy whatever fetish they have.

8 hours ago, Loveitraw said:

...bare feels so much more intimate.

It's a great way of describing a "shooting inside", but we have to make a distinction between, (1) two guys who know each other and who are having an intimate encounter which includes anal sex, or (2) two guys fucking in the darkroom at a sauna.

When I was young I enjoyed anonymous action but I also enjoyed having sex with someone I felt I loved. But in the past few decades I've preferred to stick to anonymous sex. In an old book from the 80's "The Homosexual Matrix" the author Tripp describes how in saunas guys reported feeling in love with someone they had never met and will never again meet. I can identify with that feeling, of loving some guy while in my room he pumps my ass full of his cum. Then he leaves but I feel that his cum is still inside me.

8 hours ago, Loveitraw said:

Not only taking the guy inside you but openly inviting them to leave something of themselves inside.

And also, for the top, the feeling of putting a part of himself inside the ass.

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What's the hottest thing a hookup has said to you?

When barebacking was still an underground activity at the sauna, a very young black dude, with a big tool, chased me to my room and with a strong African accent keeps saying to me "I like your eyes", to what I kept responding "I like your cock", while I played with it.

Because he enjoyed me playing with his big cock I didn't care much why would my eyes be important to him, until he started running his fingers on my lubed hole I then realized he had been meaning "I like your ass". We kept in touch and once in a while, when feeling really horny, he would call me saying he wanted to drop by. I enjoyed receiving his loads but I also liked the way he moaned while he unloaded.

19 hours ago, rawfuckr said:

Every one of theses places should have proper ass cleaning stations.

I agree. My local sauna rented a room with a sling and I'm sure it was used a lot for ass play, fisting etc, which for most guys it requires a clean hole. But the bathroom is awful, with two falling apart cubicles with toilets.

This Rectum looks good!

It's worked for me a few times. I once hooked up with a "bottom" from BBrt answer a quick connect where I advertised anon action only, at my private gloryhole.  As the guy enters, the gloryhole is on their right, with the hole covered. I don't see them and they don't see me. Once they approach I remove the cover and begin with oral service. He asked to turn around, he fucked me for a minute or so, pumped his load, cleaned up and left. No talk, no chit-chat.

I've also hooked up a few times with a fuck buddy from the times of the telephone systems. He was then a hot guy in his 20's, now, still hot, has been to my private gloryhole a few times.

The same is true for a guy wanting to fuck a hole. When wearing a condom was expected for anal sex, especially in anonymous sex at the sauna, guys were happy to know that they could fuck me raw, For many, putting on a condom is a hassle, but if the sex is raw they can manage to stick it in and eventually get hard and end up being a great fuck. In those day some guys would fuck raw but were expected to cum outside, so it was common to hear the question "Can I cum inside?" Make me horny.

On 4/8/2023 at 9:57 AM, Marsian said:

There is no privacy here unfortunately,

The reality is that the so-called gay scene is mostly focused on sex, which is where different kinds of men come together, gay, bisexual, straight, fetish, etc. Because of this, anonymity becomes the best setup for men to congregate for sex, and small social groups cannot provide an anonymous setup. And they never will. A married guy living in a large city may enjoy the occasional visit to a gloryhole to get drained before going home, but if he lived in a small town he wouldn't for fear of bumping into somebody he knows.

My first experiences with guys were at the YMCA in New York City, when they offered a cheap alternative to a hotel. There were young guys from all over the U.S., guys whom I've never seen and that I never saw again. There was at the time in my city a gay sauna, but I would have been afraid of meeting someone I knew and would have not enjoyed it the way I did at the Y. I travelled to NYC, a large city, a few times and stayed at the Y.

On 3/30/2023 at 9:38 PM, anonfemsubby said:

But now I'm starting to realize, I don't want sex any other way.

I'm not interested in having sex unless it's anonymous, either ABS, sauna or park.

I love to hear Spanish while I'm getting fucked. I know I'm getting the load when I hear "Que rico tu culo" and once the guy starts shooting his load I say "Dame tu leche".

I loved this video. Frozen cum that melts by the end of the fuck

[think before following links] https://barebackbastards.com/61565/frozen/

9 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Jesus Fucking Christ -

First, why are you so angry with me when all I'm trying to say is that all men would benefit from same-sex intimacy being part of masculinity, the way same-sex intimacy is an important part of femininity.

Men's bodies are different from women especially when it comes to erotic life because we have the cock that gets hard and it unconsciously interferes with intimacy. So obviously the way same-sex intimacy will take place will be different. Two girls can compare breast size without sex being part of the interaction, but two boys who want to compare cock size and shape, they both need to be horny to be able to make the comparison. I already asked, can then only "gay boys" compare cocks?

Obviously all boys would like to compare cocks so they should have games that boys play with their cocks and hard-ons. But because society has decided to marginalize boys and men who demonstrate any interest in same-sex intimacy, boys are reluctant to experience same-sex intimacy for fear of being part of a special group of boys and men. Girls don't think of other girls as lesbians because they want to go together to the washroom or share some piece of clothing.

9 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Bullshit.

"Gay" is an identity and as such is ambiguous. For some men, a man is gay when he bottoms anally. I once read that a man is gay only if he falls in-love with a man, but having sex with men doesn't "make" him gay.

Sexual Orientation has no biological markers so it's a good candidate for a socially constructed concept. So-called "straight men" are very reassured by "being straight" because they never have to contemplate the idea that sex with men may be fun. But the same elements that "gay men" love in porn, hard cocks and cum, are present in straight porn, just with some women to calm down the straight men.

10 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

We need words for things in order to communicate about those things.

Everybody here is probably familiar with the Kinsey Scale, and you probably have it wrong. The Kinsey Scale never intended to categorize identities, but instead the proportions of hetero and homo sex. Kinsey said it clearly, that "homosexual" and "heterosexual" should be used to refer to sexual encounters, and not for people. A sexual act can be heterosexual or homosexual, but not the people. It's a small detail that means a lot.

10 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

But that doesn't mean they think he's of "lower social status".

Just look at the disappointment in a woman's face who is anxious to find a man but discovers that the cute guy next door lives with his lover. A boy watching the scene will get the message that the guy next door is not a regular man. 

10 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

That is just stupid. It's categorically stupid. In fact, the very definition of "gay" is "a man who is interested in sexual interactions with other men." That's what the fucking word MEANS.

I don't see the "stupid". I know what gay mean to most people and if I were saying the same thing that everybody says or thinks about gay men, I wouldn't have bother writing anything.

I am sure that if men could comfortably suck their own cock, gloryholes and cock sucking would not be as popular among men as it is now. Gloryholes provide men with a "disembodied" cock that one can appropriate as  your own, and pretend you are sucking your own.

10 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Jesus Fucking Christ - you really do seem to think that boys can "get it out of their system" and then marry women. News flash: men did that for centuries. IT    DOES    NOT   WORK.   Period. 

I've never said that boys can get it out of their system. What I'm saying is that most likely all the stuff we now attribute to "being gay" is actually something common to all boys and men.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I had (hetero) teachers who were married to each other, and everyone knew that Mr. Smith was married to Mrs. Smith. Even more telling, Mrs. Smith got pregnant one year, so it was abundantly clear to everyone that Mrs. Smith was sexually active. .....As I said: heterosexuality is so pervasive

Societies depend and have depended for ever on heterosexuality not because people have been "socialized" to favour it, but because children have been part of a male-female couples, so heterosexuality is here to stay. Children have grandparents, they meet the parents of other children, most in male-female couple.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

But the bigots can't come out and say "straight good, gay bad" - so they say we can't talk about it at all. Except, as noted, we do, all the time, for straights.

Again, I think that the mistake is to focus on identities, gay and straight in this case. First of all, if people want to talk about socially constructed concepts, instead of talking about gender, gay and straight are better examples. I say this because sexual orientation does not have any biological markers. If the body or blood of a person is found, it would be impossible to determine the sexual orientation of that person, because sexual orientation is a fictitious construct.

I'm opposed to referring to same-sex marriage as  "gay marriage" because then it would imply that only gay men and lesbians can marry each other. In my opinion the insistence in having to be gay in order to engage in same-sex marriage is pervasive. Nothing stops two men to marry each other without "being gay".

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I think most men favor heterosexual intimacy because that's how they're wired.

I totally disagree with this "wired" reference because it would mean that some men have no interest in anything male and only focused on women. And we all know that it's not true, because we live in a male-dominated society where most men prefer men to women.

Why do you think guys watch MMA fights? They enjoy watching masculine and muscular bodies, mind you fighting, because otherwise it would be gay. They even have these stupid silly women announcing the rounds that nobody cares about because the men are there to watch the men.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

But the bigots can't come out and say "straight good, gay bad" - so they say we can't talk about it at all.

Yes, the men who in the back of their minds sees the potential to get turned on by men, are opposed to "gay stuff" because it may ruffle their feathers.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

So basically you want to teach them the mechanics of gay sex but nothing about actually being attracted to someone, romantically, of the same sex.

From observing girls and women same-sex intimacy I think there's a lesson to learn and that maybe men are frustrated by the censoring of same-sex intimacy and that the only way to achieve it is by "being gay". Why can't boys and men be allowed to share intimacy, physical and emotional, without being labelled "different"?

The problem with the concept of "gay" is that it will always be of a lower social status simply because for women, a so-called "straight" male will always have more value that a gay one. Everybody's heard comments from women who say "the guy next door is so cute, but too bad, he's gay". And this will never change. Or do you think it will come a time when women won't care if the guy they are interested is gay or not.

The solution is to get rid of the gay and straight identities because that will be the only way to get rid of discrimination. And focus instead of what are the needs that boys and men need from other boys and men.

Here is one example. Wanting to suck cock is seen as an indication that a man is gay. But this need to suck cock would be interpreted as men wanting to suck it's own cock but because a man can't really suck it, he needs to suck another guy's cock.

Boys should first have fun with each other, suck cock, fuck each other, play all kinds of sexual games, without any women. Then, as they grow older into manhood men can decide to relate sexually to women. That way men can resolve any fetishes they may have among each other, and then go to women.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

If a straight married female teacher makes a reference to "my husband" (or an unmarried one makes a reference to "my boyfriend" or "my fiance"), nobody is going to say that's discussing sexual orientation.

I would like to take a step back and think of why a professional doing their job has to share with the clients, children in this case, details of their personal life. When I went to school I never knew anything about the personal life of my teachers, and looking back I wasn't interested. Teachers were there to teach subjects that were considered to help children in their future careers, like Math, Grammar, Science, public speaking, and many other useful subjects.

15 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Here's the problem with your perspective (which may be because you're not, as you acknowledge, American.

Regarding the reference to sexual orientation:

15 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

Because heterosexuality is so pervasive in culture...

But heterosexuality is pervasive in all cultures, and it has been for millennia, therefore there must be something about the conditions and the dynamics of heterosexuality that it is favoured among all cultures.

One reason I can think about why most men favour heterosexual intimacy over male intimacy is that most likely their experiences of intimacy have been with a woman, their mother, rarely with a father or any male friends.

15 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

And the Florida law in question prohibits ANY reference to sexual orientation in public elementary schools. Sounds simple, right? But what is a "mention" of sexual orientation?

I disagree with presenting children with a concept that segregates them based on a need for intimacy. As BootmanLA says "[Heterosexuality] is baked into the environment; it's the air that people breathe" which creates a power imbalance with homosexuality at the bottom of the scale.

Heterosexuality is so baked into the environment that there have been several cases of Canadian Junior players using some young woman in gang-bang, just to be able to say that they are straight. If I were the judge my sentence would be to repeat the scene but this time instead of the young woman being gang-rape, they all have to take turns being the slut.

Instead of telling teenage boys about the gay identity, they should be told things that are real and concrete, like "Look boys, you have a cock, it gets hard, and it feels good touching it, but it would feel better if I sucked it, but I can't". You tell them that for some boys the next best thing to sucking your own cock is to suck a buddy's cock, and maybe later switch. If one keeps the "gay" out of the needs for intimacy with other boys, boys are more likely accept same-sex intimacy themselves. One of the most intimate things two boys can do, something they cannot do with girls, is compare their cocks, in size shape, etc. But for two boys to compare their cocks they have to feel aroused, which within sexual orientation perspective would mean that two straight boys cannot compare cocks, because doing it makes them gay.

On 2/26/2023 at 11:00 AM, tallslenderguy said:

"don't say gay"

Using a fake name for a law is not a proper way of debating the issue. I'm not American so I don't know what the name of the law is, but I know those opposing to the bill likes to call it that way to disqualify it.

I'm against confusing children about any concept, and especially gender. Many concepts are ambiguous and that may include gender. I say "may" because it's never been confusing to me.

Take the concepts of "door" and "window" which at first glance they seem simple. A door is to go in and out of a room, and a window is to let light and fresh air come into a room. That's what children learn by observation. But it turns out that a window can also be a door and a door can sometimes be a window, but not because of that we teach two-year old children the nuances of concepts like window and door. Children learn about the nuances of windows and doors with experience. 

Yes, sometimes for some gender is not as clear as it is for more than 99% of the population in the Western world, but that doesn't mean that you have to confuse every child with the nuances of gender. Because if you do, many children with emotional issues unrelated to gender will gravitate to the ideas of gender theory because they find emotional support among other young people.

1 hour ago, Gimmiethatload said:

...something some guys say so they don't come off as a big ole bottom...

I would agree but I would also agree with:

1 hour ago, Close2MyBro said:

That's just somebody saying they're a total bottom but pretending to be a top.

"I'll bottom for the right guy" is a phrase that I see quite often in profiles of usually versatile or versatile-top profiles.

What does it mean? Does it mean that the right guy has to do with his cock or age?

On 8/14/2022 at 1:41 AM, VersatileBreeder said:

One trick I use, it seems to work most of the time, is when feel like I’m about to cum, I go in balls deep and just hold it there.

That's hot!

19 hours ago, a2malways said:

Both of those strike me as a more civilized approach. I hope the GI Joe thing is better than I remember, because I almost couldn't believe how convoluted it was.  

Great feedback and it matches my experience because I remember the weird size of the outlet. There is probably a converter to the standard size.

8 hours ago, fuckholedc said:

On the top and the bottom floor at GI Joe, the two main bathrooms have a deep trough that appear to be set up for douching (I don't remember about the other bathroom locations on the other floors, except the bathroom off the video room on the second floor does not have this). 

I don't understand how places like GI-Joe don't have good cleaning facilities for bottoms who want heavy anal play. It's like a restaurant without bathrooms.

3 hours ago, nastypig80 said:

I was younger but it didn’t hurt at all.

I was also young, on my first visit to the YMCA in New York. Maybe the guy wasn't very big or maybe that I knew about lube from   my bottom friend who had recommended me I stay at the Y. I still remember the guy in his 50's moaning, pulling out and quickly leave the room. My first bottoming experience must have been very good because I became hooked to bottoming and taking anon loads.

As a bottom, one of the things I like about Steamworks Toronto, is that the bathrooms are equipped with good cleaning facilities. Does GI-Joe have any good cleaning facilities?

On 2/26/2023 at 9:17 PM, 120DaysofSodom said:

Being in a darkroom is kind of self explanatory in how to get raw loads easily, is it not?

Yes, because guys feel uninhibited, but No, because darkrooms are full of holes looking for cum.

If you are a young, good-looking guy, in a darkroom you basically have the same chances of taking a load than a bottom in his 60's or 70's.

8 hours ago, 120DaysofSodom said:

I very rarely top, but when I do, love the idea of a well used bottom dripping in the seeds of other men,

Dripping holes make even a bottom want to breed it. So hot...

When time's up at the sauna and I'm still horny, I many times prefer to go home and jerk-off just before I fall asleep. Other times I jerk off in my room and then go home. If there are gloryholes, I may feed my hard-on to some willing mouth and have it swallow my load, and then go home.

I know many bottoms, even total bottoms, if they are horny and need to dump their loads before leaving the sauna, will hunt for a hole, stick their throbbing hard-on, dump their load, and then leave the sauna.

17 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

First, passage of the Civil Marriage Act happened AFTER courts...

I'm sure you're right about the history, but what I know is that Harper was Primer Minister when same-sex marriage became legal in the province of Ontario, and that he gave permission to his party to vote independently.

21 hours ago, evilqueerpig said:

Once again, I ask, what has the Republican Party done for the 'gay' you?

In Canada, it was during the Conservative government of Stephen Harper that the same-sex marriage became law.