AirmaxUK

Post covid, when everything started to re-open and some places were struggling, a friend and I decided we wanted to visit every gay sauna in the UK.  I thought the only one we missed was the place in Newcastle that had seemed to turn into a str8 swingers place. Turns out we missed Pennine too, so I think it's time for a visit.  Any tips from regulars - good times or bad times to go? 

5 hours ago, SomewhereonNeptune said:

On the surface I'd agree. There's a "but" coming.

Several months ago (when it was actually somewhat cold in Orlando), I checked out a couple gay bars in the area. Got to one that will remain nameless but is known for having a maze-like back yard where pretty much anything goes on. Got there, realized I was really low on cash, hit their ATM for $40. Got hit with a $9 ATM Service Fee! WTF!?!? This is just further shittification of LGBTQ businesses when they piss on their punters like that.

(For those who want to know, the fees got more outrageous as you wanted more cash).

I want more local businesses. I'd like it if people supported them. I'd outright love it if they supported us rather than do stupid shit that leaves bad impressions and doesn't engender you to return. In this case, I won't be. 

Granted that's not a great experience - maybe things are different in the US, but is it not the ATM provider that imposes and profits from those fees, not the venue where it is located?  Venue owners might not even realise the charges programmed into the machine as they wouldn't use it themselves. 

Apple Watch is my favourite tool for paying for drinks in these kinds of places - no need to carry cash in pockets that might go missing in the darker corners. I can leave my phone in a locker where it is safe and not a distraction.  Many places in Europe you use your cloakroom ticket number as a tab and pay when leaving (electronic or cash).  

1 hour ago, jeff238 said:

It's interesting to me that early days of apps, were very productive. I have always been baffled why it changed so drastically.

The first app I tried was gay dot com. I had a hookup with a cute 19yo within 20 minutes. Bear in mind, that I live in a very rural area to boot. What happened???

In the early days the apps started out being used by motivated early adopters who were into meeting.

Then they became mainstream - there was suddenly a ton more choice - and people started to chase the perfect guy - and it's incredibly rare that if A thinks B is a hot ten, that B also thinks the same of A.  It's a bit like when saunas get busy everyone walks around and around. 

Now they are really a form of soft porn. People go on them to get off on the idea of meeting, not to actually meet. Hence why people disappear suddenly or ghost once the've shot their nut. 

I think if you want to meet people, then go out to cruise, saunas, bars, clubs, etc.. Support the businesses or we'll lose them.  

Can the apps be fixed? Probably not, but a lot could be done to improve them.  Some kind of uber like reward/scoring/rating system - maybe gated by having to have your smartphones in close proximity to perform the rating to prevent abuse.  

I think it is important to recognise that people on this site who are interested in VPNs are likely the use case that they are in a place that has been blocked by BreedingZone, so the aim here is to try and appear to be located somewhere different than the zones being blocked. What's important here is the exit node and where it appears to be, and if it is on any blacklists.    

Testing a VPN on a trip to a zone where the zone itself blocks traffic is a different use-case: you're trying to circumvent a firewall or block in the zone where you are located. What's important here is the entry node being accessible in the zone where you are located. 

A VPN that's good in one scenario may not be good in the other. 

The suggestion from @Incognito91 to have a computer at home with TeamViewer running is a good one. When I travel for work, that is my backup plan and also works if you get your stuff stolen - you can get up and running again with almost any computer.  

I see that thisvid.com have now blocked the UK too.  NordVPN to the rescue!

3 hours ago, NordicBtm said:

TBH I would expect it to be pretty slow everywhere on a Tuesday, but sometimes that still makes for great sex as guys are not going to roam all night then waiting for mr Prince Fucking.

Tuesday: Maybe try Jaxx? It’s a fun fuckjoint full of guys after work looking to bust a nut or take dick. I sometimes went there on slow days and it never failed me, got at least 3-5 nice fucks and 3 loads each time in 1-2 hours. Then if you haven’t had enough you can try cruising in a park - this is also popular on weekday nights. But don’t bring any valuables with you…

Friday: I suppose Lab again (if I remember fridays are hella busy there) or just enjoy hotel hookups then Schöneberg round (Prinzknecht first, then a bar of your choice nearby, then end at Bull).

have fun! I think regular weekends are better IMO bc it’s more relaxed and people are just enjoying themselves not for show 🙂 

Add to that the video cabin cruise clubs, like Connection Shop in Fuggerstrasse - can be interesting early evening as there's an 'after work' crowd when guys go home. 

I've not done Jaxx - although I have tried - they said I was too old (42 at the time). 

Bull is always good on any day of the week (as it is open 24/7) and best after midnight. 

Ajpnia do a Wednesday evening - and if you're kink/fetish oriented then Bose Buben have events most days of the week with different themes. 

Would avoid cruising in the parks - there has been a lot of trouble lately and I can speak from personal experience of being attacked/beaten by three guys in Tiergarten on a Tuesday night. 

My go-to for planning is Siegessaeule Magazine - they have an English page with events that goes quite far into the future:  [think before following links] https://www.siegessaeule.de/en/events/

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I went on a non-weekend, would really like to go back for a weekend or for Folsom and really get myself wrecked. 

YMMV but I find big party weekends are full of tourist bottoms and the Berliners tend to stay away.  I've had much better quality fun on non-event weekends as the ratio and odds are much more in my favour.  If I am in town during a big event, then I'll go to backwater places not in the main drag. 

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There were days when I was scared I'd get no loads at all only for it to pick up and me to stumble back to the hotel at 6am leaking cum into my jeans. 

Often the end of the night is the best time to get a load. On busier weekends I've even had an early night, slept and got up early at 4am to go out and catch guys at The Bull.  You do have to deal with guys who're a bit of a mess and finding guys who can still get hard is a challenge.  

So far so good with NordVPN set up with a server in Berlin, Germany. 

I use a Unifi router  and  I set up a routing policy to send all breeding.zone traffic via the berlin VPN.  Everything is handled automagically and it's like nothing changed.

8 hours ago, Godliath said:

And he's got a goal this summer: Get his cunt bred by a hundred old men.

Darn. That's me out then. 😆

Funny, I was only thinking yesterday it's been a while since I saw him online, and today I saw this thread.   I am glad he's okay and understand sometimes it's needed to take a break and reset. He had great taste in EDM, so I am glad his DJing is continuing.  I miss his posts but I am happy if he's thriving. 

I've always had an okay time at Bunker but if you've seen an ad for a 'specialist' theme or party, be aware that they often have two or three overlapping things advertised. For instance Roadworks (worker hivis gear) overlaps with Skinheads and Smart business suits.  Apart from advertising, they don't do anything much to make the events different or stand out.  The videos they show in the play areas are random.  This means that events are somewhat diluted.

For me, its location and event timing means an overnight stay in a local hotel. This cost is hard to justify with a 'diluted' event. I would go more often if the trains home ran past midnight.   

One of the problems of dual citizenship is Tax.  As I understand it from friends in this situation, if you come to the UK and get dual citizenship you'd be liable to pay *both*  the IRS and HMRC tax on your income unless you relinquish US citizenship.  Take advice from a professional before making a decision. 

The other phrase that comes to mind is 'out of the frying pan and into the fire'.  Speaking as a brit, things aren't great here either. The only thing keeping me here is looking after an elderly parent.  My plan for the future isn't to stay here - I'll move for sure.   

Almost everyone wants to be the cumdump that gets all the loads - it's ultra competitive - so what's your USP?  Think what you can do differently that will draw men in and choose your ass over others when it's time to nut.  

Don't be picky and hold out for that *one* guy - odds are likely unfavourable.  

Be open, friendly and engage with everyone.  If someone is being a nuisance, be discrete, polite and firm.   Shows of prissy/queeny behaviour really turns guys off. 

If you can get in the headspace, try to be versatile - be willing to give some to get some. I find that goes a long way and it means there is more to go around.  

6 hours ago, sleazebugga said:

We in the UK and partner and I keep to keep on this site. Have been looking at VPNs. Before I buy, does anyone have positive or negative feedback on NordVPN? it seems to get quite good reviews.

cheers!

Longtime NordVPN user here and very happy.  DM me for a referral code for 1-3 Months free depending on the package. 

Also this makes interesting reading: [think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN_service#comparison

I use NordVPN - it's good value for money and you can set your egress point to be in most cities in the world. 

I used the guide to VPN's that's in Wikipedia and rates them for privacy - Nord were pretty well rated and had a good offer if you bought 2 years up front, so I chose them, and have been using them for years. 

They also have specialist egress points for peer-to-peer torrent based file sharing apps as well as TOR. 

If anyone wants a referral code, send me a DM.

As noted, when travelling abroad, BBC/ITV/etc sometimes won't work on one egress point, but Nord have loads in the UK, so pick another and I usually find one that works. 

This "survey" on NKP sums up online hookups these days:

1 hour ago, ellentonboy said:

I know there are guys who advertise themselves as vers/bttm and it has been my experience that in almost every occasion, they decided to go the bottom route. That's fine, that is their decision, and like I have said, I don't like pressuring someone into doing something they don't want to do.

Now I have been at group parties or house parties, where there has been a guy who has been topping the entire time.  Yet when someone else entered the house, he suddenly had the urge to bottom and put on a show for all to see. I do believe there are guys who lean heavily towards the top side, but on occasion will bottom for someone they feel is incredibly attractive or has some other attribute they haven't found in other tops online or in the area.  However when it comes to the vers/bttm issue, I have never had a situation where a bottom suddenly has this earth shattering revelation and stands up and says "I am going to top".  It has never happened in my presence.

Maybe I am going to the wrong parties, I don't know.

Speaking as someone who identifies as a "vers/btm"  I will say that my default position is btm - but as the years go by competition is more and more intense.  The vers bit is that I'd totally flip for the right guy - It's not an optimal outcome, but I'd rather that than go home unfulfilled.  When guys make an effort to get you to flip - that's nice as it shows desire. What isn't a turn on is when bottoms are indifferent to the guys they want to be topped by.  That seems to come with the "cumdump culture".  

2 hours ago, SpectreAgent said:

I really must visit again soon. 

I'm gonna hold you to it - you've been saying that for *ages* lol

Many years ago when we had sex-ed (1980's) I remember being told that unprotected sex was like having sex with everyone that person had ever had sex with.  Sadly for the teachers, that thought stuck in the wrong place of my mind.... When I go out to parties and events there always seems to be a couple of bottoms who "dominate" the scene and get all the action.  My success rate is low, but I do enjoy waiting until the night is almost over and getting their load at the end of the night.  That thought echoes that I'm getting a tiny peice of everyone else they fucked that night too... These days these kinds of guys are often on drugs and can't perform, so as I say success rate is low.  

A new strategy i'm experimenting with is using dildos and plugs with another bottom and sharing toys - I had an experience a few weeks back where a guy 'stored' the plug that was in my ass in his own ass while he bred me in the sling. He'd gotten fucked by many guys that night so it was a massive turn on when he popped it out and put it back in my ass after he'd done. 

SOP is my Sunday Afternoon/Evening pleasure.  It's sleazy enough that it doesn't attract the puppy-hood and harness hoardes.   

15 minutes ago, jorgge said:

I get around 20-25 loads per session

That's pretty good going in reality 

South Buckinghamshire / Chilterns close to M40/M25, Berkshire and Oxfordshire borders.

3 hours ago, jd13 said:

Fair points here, @AirmaxUK, and yeah we do have stricter insurance, liability & safeguarding rules here in the UK, for all sorts of (IMO) very good reasons. It's just interesting how strict it is in London, and seemingly less so elsewhere in the UK. But yeah all fair points.

It's probably down to the local authority issuing the license, how closely they monitor things, and how often the venue pops up on their radar with incidents like ambulance callouts, complaints from locals, etc.   

1 hour ago, jd13 said:

Yes that's my understanding of most venues too. In the UK it's perhaps a bit less open - like no one would ever say "I'm off at X" while you're standing in line to get in, it'd be more an approach in the corridor or changing rooms etc - but yes that seems to be the general rule. But at Vault, it was always secret, rushed, furtive, urgent, watchful. Just wait in the dark I'll be there but gotta check no one sees me etc. Which of course is a hotness all of its own, but you're right, it seems pretty draconian.

I am aware of bar and door staff that were fired after fraternising with customers during their shift at venues in London. One venue I know has a policy of barring for life staff that are fired for misconduct.  I imagine it is a legal thing where a venue with an adult encounter license might be accused of breaking the terms of the license and even running a brothel if they charge an entry fee and then allow staff 'engage' with customers.  When you think about it, as an employer it'd be a legal minefield to permit staff to engage with customers in that way - liability, insurance, safeguarding, all sorts of things come to mind. 

2 minutes ago, jd13 said:

Me, I was bouncing from cock to cock because of my welcoming attitude 😄 

Oh he was probably jealous