AirmaxUK

Pretty much anything that contains masculine pheromones works for me - pits, socks, sneakers/boots, worn gym gear.

Just bumping this topic - I've heard from a couple of guys but when it comes to arranging something it's been the usual "I'd love to meet but my Nan's cat has anxiety and I can't leaver her alone, so I can't meet up after all" or similar excuses... So looking for others who are interested in meeting - it doesn't have to be a full-on session worthy of The Backroom on here - even a Coffee or Beer can be good. Again, DM me on here, Recon or Romeo (same user name) and mention you're from BZ.

My Uber driver asked “what’s that smell” so I guess it is strong enough to notice.

Out today at SOP and someone spilled a Entire bottle of poppers over me - fairly sure it was an accident but it burned my neck and chest and now I absolutely stink of poppers despite washing and a change of clothes. Not happy. gonna be an interesting journey home!

Hey guys Will be in Antwerp Friday 9th -Monday 12th September. Would be great to meet with local guys from BreedingZone. Planning a few nights out at The Boots but happy to meet wherever. DM me on here or AirmaxUK on Romeo (mention you're from BZ). Andy

Most guys seem to prefer pre-loaded. So some frozen loads are useful to get the ball rolling when out cruising...

Like anything - Monkeypox, C19, HIV, Riding a motorcycle in t-shirt and shorts... It's all about how you perceive risk and how you mange it, to keep your anxieties low enough to still have fun. I find that if I have figured that out in advance, then I am able to make sensible decisions in the moment without overthinking or procrastinating. I think that then when guys haven't reached this point it leads to the worst sin in hookup world: leading someone on then changing your mind. Everyone's perceptions of risk and their situation and anxieties are different. What's good for one person may not suit another. The best answer for you is one of your own devising, based on facts you trust. We live in an age of influencers and pundits trying to foist their own agendas on us. Even if you think your agendas are aligned, you can never be sure the facts and thinking behind them are sound. Asking this question here is going to get an answer biased toward the lifestyle this site promotes. Only you can figure out the best answer for yourself but if it helps you figure it out, I think understanding other people decisions and most importantly, the reasoning behind them is helplful. For example, during C19 lockdown I was really exceptionally risk averse: my mother was having treatment for cancer. Although we were vaccinated, catching C19 - however mild after the vaccine - would likely have been fatal. Some guys I spoke to thought I was being overcautious, but I didn't want that on my conscience, so despite having opportunities and getting invites - I had to decline. Last year the situation inevitably changed and once the dust settled, I was able to adjust my attitude to risk. What I've found is that the landscape had changed somewhat - and the online/app scene is now very hard to get guys to switch from fantasy to reality. When the clubs, bars and saunas reopened, this was my playtime, although many were slow to return. Even before monkeypox, numbers were 50-70% of where they were. As far a Monkeypox goes, knowing my body and how it reacts, I figured that I'd likely be OK in the long term if I had it, and the worst thing was that it might be embarrassing to explain at work. My partner is quite scared of it, so I had to take his feelings into account. After talking to a couple of guys I knew who caught it at Darklands, I felt a bit more informed about what to expect. Based on this, I figured I was happy reducing down to a few 1-2-1 meets, but not comfortable in darkrooms and saunas. We were lucky enough to get the monkeypox vaccine about three weeks ago, and I've re-adjusted again. They tell me it's not 100% effective so there is still residual risk... But it's low enough that I've really enjoyed SOP and done a couple of sessions in the saunas. It's been fun, but it has been really quiet out as a lot of guys are still staying away... TL;DR: Everyone should inform themselves to make their own balance of risk/anxiety vs reward.

Indeed, it seems variable. My friend had smallpox vaccine in the 1960's rang our local clinic for a checkup appointment this week and asked if he needed the shot. They asked him about his habits and he mentioned saunas, darkrooms and cruising... that seemed to fit the criteria and they booked him in for the jab on Monday.

Cockoos: (intentional spelling) Luton Greenhouse Sauna has cabins off of a narrow corridor. The corridor is wide enough to pass closely. Some guys don't like having the ones they're not into pass so close and want to keep some space between them. These guys tend to stand in the doorways of the cabins - even if there is someone in there trying to attract guys passing by, thus blocking. Also when it gets busy and all the cabins are occupied I've seen guys use a similar technique to block someone in a cabin, and then when they engage with someone in the corridor they physically block the passage - someone will inevitably ask them to move and that when they will move into the occupied cabin and force the occupant out. Bio-warfare guy: There was a guy who used go to Central Station who had really bad flatulence. Bad in a nasty smelling way. He was in his early 60s at the time and got more than fun you'd think, but if he was having an off day (on reflection - perhaps because of his condition), he'd get off by ruining everyone else's fun. His favourite if someone was on their knees giving a BJ was to sneak up close by and let one rip as close as he could and try and make it look like it wasn't him or he was innocent. If confronted he'd either deny it or say he can't control it. Haven't seen him around since before C19 lockdowns.

Whoa. When I asked the question it was meant kinda lightheartedly - I hadn't expected it be to taken so seriously and for it to blow up in quite the way it has. I do wonder if, when guys read this kind of discourse, it discourages them from participating here: Even as seasoned user of this site, I know that I haven't replied or commented until now because I don't want to get dragged into the flames. Is that healthy? I don't think so. So, thank you everyone for your input - I consider my question answered. Let's leave it to rest.

Out of the blue, you get an Oink (or whatever) from a stranger on a hook up site or app. How do you react? Some guys block oinks altogether- does that work? Do you get more real messages? Do you deal with oinks differently if the person is 100s of miles away? Or if you like /don’t like them? I found that replying to an oink with a real message saying thanks for the oink works better than just oinking back. how about you?

Backstreet was one of the most famous places, but there are others - and even new ones around that deserve our support. I haven't been yet, but a newly opened venue is The Lord Clyde in Deptford (9 Wotton Road, SE8 5TQ) Description from [think before following links] [think before following links] https://visitgay.london/10662/the-lord-clyde/ A hot new gay cruising events bar in Deptford, South London, based at the Lord Clyde pub. A host of special nights includes Punishment Block, every Friday, for man-to-man CP/spanking in a safe environment; Sunday Social for a chilled evening of retro songs from the 70s to noughties, with hot cruising downstairs; Come2Daddy, London’s first and original home of Daddy Lovers; Leather – a night for leather and fetish fans; Game, for guys who take their Sports kit seriously; CP spanking introduction Kandy Stripes, for Crossdressers, Transvestites and Transexuals and their friends and allies; Worship – for like-minded men who love rimming and know how to take it to the next level; and Butt Naked – which needs no explanation! Also see: [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.facebook.com/groups/691189292138984 Someone's already mentioned Bunker, which has a range of themed events but they aren't very strict about the theme or dress code. Some events overlap as well. Central Station in Kings Cross has it's infamous Underground Club basement cruise and play space. They have a variety of special interest fetish clubs like Pants, SOP, Horse Fair, Skinheads, Sweet Wednesday, Collared, Shoot, Gearbound, Feet on Friday, Sneax on Saturday, and more. All these events are run by independent people, not by the venue, so they tend to be quite focused on their themes. I can't speak for others, but when I run events there, we don't let anyone in who's not into the party "just for a look" or "just to cruise" as we want to keep the event a safe space for the fetish community. A lot of the smaller places don't have big advertising budgets, like Recon do, and events are run by volunteers. They rely on word-of-mouth recommendations and reputation instead - which is why I mention them here and encourage others to do so too.

Headed out to SOP this afternoon at Central Station - always a lot of fun - and I'm more than keen to meet any BZ guys who might be around - an exchange of fluids is always nice, but it can be just saying hi over a beer, too.

Well - good luck if you're flying - I was there (AMS) this week for work - Heathrow T5 was chaos with 3.5 hour queue for security. Fasttrack was closed. I had to jump the line so as not to miss my flight - which was 1hr late as they had no-one to load the baggage. Schipol was just as bad... piles of bags everywhere, and similar queues and delays. I'm headed to SOP at Central Station today for some WS fun. That's usually a reliable source for me.

I think sanitising CP implements between guys is a very good idea, even before Monkeypox.

SOP Generally peaks 4pm-8pm on Sunday, but it's open from 1/2pm (can't remember) until 11pm or earlier if it gets quiet enough to close. That said, I've had some of my very best times there when it is quiet - some guys like to start and finish early on a Sunday. You can never tell how busy it'll be... this weekend it might be busier because of fetish week, but on the other hand if there's another big event at the same time it could be quiet... the weather is gonna be mega hot and then there's monkeypox keeping people away. You can analyse it to death but it can only take one guy to make it epic.

I originally said no symptoms - there's a *small* lump that feels tender like a bruise if I massage it, about where it was injected. I've done a shoulders and arms day on Tuesday with my PT and it didn't ache, hurt or affect performance. Seems to be reducing slowly. No scar or anything where it was injected - can't even tell. My older buddy is 'on the list' but hasn't been given an appointment yet.

Also try Central Station's Underground Club, basement of Central Station on corner of Balfe St and Wharfedale Road, Kings Cross, N1

If you mean Rosebay then I am aware of it. If you become a member then you get access to videos of the play spaces - although it is unclear which are of the new play space and which are of the former one in Blackpool. Planning a weekend up there but they could do with some catering facilities on site.

A recent internet rabbit hole search led me to the website of a gay campground/resort in the US. It's not something I've considered before but it ticks more boxes than I expected. Is there a central website that lists and compares all such places and their facilities? US is of interest but worldwide might be interesting. Would be also interested to know any recommendations from guys who've stayed... My only requirements are that they have rental cabins, caravans or tents (as I am travelling from abroad) and some kind of play space. I'd prefer a place or event that attracts a more 40s and older crowd that's more bearish than twinkish. Friendly and inclusive rather than attitudey and judgey. And finally, any tips on staying? Thanks Andy

UK Based here... went for a check-up at my local clinic this week (first in three years so should be interesting results) and asked about Smallpox vaccine. Initially they said that they were making a list of guys and putting it in risk/priority order, but as I was about to leave they said that their delivery of vaccine had arrived and they'd be happy to give me a dose, but it was still frozen - so they made an appointment for Friday (yesterday) to give it. They key thing was mentioning 'saunas' and 'parties in Berlin, similar to Darklands'. That seemed to get me the #2 slot in their list. I am only wondering who was #1 and what they said! They explained the vaccine they are giving is a much more modern vaccine than that given in the 60's and 70's and it doesn't leave a scar - the older vaccine left a 5p coin sized scar apparently. They did warn there may be some reaction around the injection site. They were also quite careful to talk through any possible allergies. They said egg is used in the production process. The info also said that 'flu like symptoms' are possible in the days or so afterwards. The shot was given in the flesh and was like the B12 shots I have each quarter, and no weird aches afterwards like you get with the covid shots. They wanted me to hang around for 20 minutes 'just in case there is a reaction' but I needed to get to the gym for a PT session, so I left early. They reckon it takes "a week or two" to build immunity after having the shot. So far no, symptoms at all except wanting to get out there again! A buddy of mine I go out cruising with is older and has had the smallpox vaccine in the 70's. I asked if he would need a booster, and they said that if he fits the risk profile, he'd get a shot whether or not he'd had the smallpox vaccine years ago, so don't discount the idea if you had a shot in the 60s/70s. This was my experience at a smallish provincial clinic in the UK - your experience may vary depending on your local NHS Trust's policies etc.

Sorry you had a bad experience there: I haven't been in a while but the three occasions I went (all Tuesdays) last winter were brilliant. I found the best spot was the dark corner of the steam room. I've not been to the sauna since monkeypox - but will go again once vaccinated. I guess many guys may share the same logic?

Thanks for this - about half way through at the moment and it's really interesting.