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10 years with the virus: questions
cub84 replied to silvercompany's topic in What's It Like To Be Poz?
Can I ask what country or general region you’re from? I assume this is your regular general doctor, not an HIV specialist? Their knowledge is rather out of date, their advice feels much more like what you would expect in the 2000s rather than the 2020s. So, if it’s possible, I’d also recommend trying to change doctor. Perhaps get in touch with a HIV/sexual health charity in your city/country that can give you tailored advice based on the latest knowledge and research as well as options for changing doctors. In regards to your specific questions: 1. Like many long term conditions it’s possible your current medication might start to be less effective, but there are several different classes of ARV drugs these days so I wouldn’t worry too much about this. 2. The multi-strain/super-infection risk is low. It was a widely held fear in the 90s/00s that “super infection” might be possible. Research has not shown this to be the case, it’s very rare and only documented in those not on medication. 3. It certainly is the case that folk with HIV/AIDS who are not on medication are at higher risk of pneumonia - a weakened immune system is likely to lead to more opportunity for a chest infection that won’t cure itself and thus develop into pneumonia. There is an increased risk of certain cancers but this has been reducing over time with the increased availability of better drugs to treat HIV. 4. If you have another infection that requires antibiotic then you may well need to stop taking DoxyPEP while you take the other antibiotic to avoid any bad interactions between the two drugs. But on taking DoxyPEP in general, it certainly reduces the likelihood of other STDs. There are many countries (France comes to mind) where there has been a long history of overprescribing of antibiotics and therefore significant fears about antibiotic resistance developing. But if you’re very regularly sexually active with multiple unknown partners then it probably is best to stick with DoxyPEP. A few hundred thousand gay men taking it isn’t going to add substantially to the pre-existing risks of antibiotic resistant super-bugs emerging. -
Hep C is a principally blood-borne virus and only present in cum at the very initial phase of infection. As with HIV, Hep C infection for tops is rare, it requires some degree of irritation/micro-tearing that exposes blood vessels such that the virus can enter the blood stream. It doesn’t need to be a full on situation where you notice blood, think like how you can get scratched on the hand by a thorn on a rose, you don’t profusely bleed from that but your skin has been broken and there’s a route for something to get into your bloodstream that’s like what happened in Leather69’s case. Somehow a micro-tear will have occurred in the skin of his cock, and either there was a load in one of the bottoms he fucked that came from somehow with a recent Hep C infection or he fucked a bottom with Hep C that had tears in his ass. Fisting notably increases the risk of Hep C because it increases the chances of creating micro-tears in the receiving partner’s ass (or deep tears depending on how rough you are). And obviously sharing needles massively increases the chances. Personally I’ve only know folks contract Hep C through either of these methods not regular fucking, not saying it doesn’t happen that way as Leather69’s case proves, but its just more likely if fisting/shared needles are involved. PrEP has nothing to do with HepC transmission, it only guards against HIV infection. Hep C requires a completely different set of drugs to treat.
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You can access a list of content you follow, which (when I remember) use as a sort of quasi favourites or bookmarks list. Downside is that you can’t sort or search it. In the menu select Account > Manage Followed Content, the first page under that will provide a list topics you follow.
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Video Upload - probably redundant
cub84 replied to PozToxVersPig's topic in Tips, Tricks, Rules & Help
IIRC, long ago (I’m thinking like 10+ years ago) it was possible to upload video to your gallery but I believe it was disabled for three reasons: (i) hosting video files massively increases the hosting and bandwidth requirements (and thus site running costs), (ii) video comes with a lot more moderation and copyright headaches as well as increasing the likelihood of DCMA takedown notices, (iii) raw top launched a separate tube site for video posting (raunchyfuckers) but that’s since gone into abeyance. -
Important: What's Allowed Here & What's Not
cub84 replied to rawTOP's topic in Bug Chasing & Gift Giving FICTION
@viking8x6 thanks, my main reason for posting it here was in the hope of being in service to others that might have the same question in the future, but noted re not relying on this as a way to get the attention of moderators. Thanks for the reply, yes as you say slash fiction is already a tricky one and I can fully appreciate it being complicated further by the addition of HIV fetishisation into the mix. As it’s not an outright no, I’ll see where my inspiration takes me and if I can turn it into something worth posting, and will bear in mind your points re copyright, respectfulness and judiciousness. Like I said I’d already thought about some level of obfuscation so it wouldn’t end up in innocuous google searches. The quote of JKR’s views made me chuckle given that I suspect there’s a lot of LGBT-coded fanfic out there that, given her views as professed via her Twitter account, she almost certainly despises. -
Important: What's Allowed Here & What's Not
cub84 replied to rawTOP's topic in Bug Chasing & Gift Giving FICTION
Having checked the rules I think a story idea I've had some initial thoughts about is ok, but I just want to be sure. Basically it's a chasing fanfic based on an existing book/TV series. So I was wondering if there are any prohibitions on derivative works based on existing material. I was probably going to change character names and some details to make it less likely that a random person search for content relating to the series wouldn't find it, but folk here that know it could make an educated guess about the connection. -
I don’t intend this to sound harsh but do you know if/when they intend to fix this? By my reckoning it’s two months since the problem started (given the date of the other thread about email notifications and the last new member being on June 11). There are a couple of folk I’ve been wanting to encourage to sign-up, but there’s no point unless/until this is fixed. From my professional life I know that tech issues aren’t as simple as people think, but it’d be useful to get some sort of indicative timeline and might go towards stopping some of the repeat posts in this thread.
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Is this also affecting new sign-ups? I was going to suggest joining to someone I’ve been chatting to but just noticed on the homepage that it says the newest member was back on June 11.
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I hadn’t realised this had been posted in the general section, I’d assumed given the content it was in the backroom/a fantasy section. Given this is the “reality” side, for what it’s worth I agree that condom sabotage is wrong, I don’t do it and like others just don’t fuck unless it’s raw, but can’t deny that for me condom sabotage is an intensely hot fantasy.
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Repeat the process/stab them with a needle. Get that failure rate up to 100% 😈🐷
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The data protection act and privacy act
cub84 replied to keith55's topic in Tips, Tricks, Rules & Help
As someone with a fair bit of DPA/GDPR experience in the UK I thought it might be useful to give my take on the situation. First the legal position, caveat here I’m not a legal professional but have worked with closest with data protection specialists: Breeding Zone as a forum site is a platform not a publisher, users are the publishers and are responsible for what they do and don’t post. Depending on where they are based platforms have different requirements to comply with regards data privacy. Just because you can access a website on the internet does not automatically mean that the laws in your country apply to that site. It’s not quite the same, but the easiest way to think about it is to take a physical world analogy, if you go on holiday to another country then the laws of that country apply not the laws of your home country. That being said the GDPR was drafted to apply to any website that provides a service to residents in the EU (and UK). In theory, sites based outside have to comply with the law if they have users based in the UK/EU. In practice, if a website is based outside of these jurisdictions then you have little to no chance of ensuring compliance if they are in breach of the law. Breeding Zone has no presence in the UK or EU, so even where there are laws that apply to internet platforms, unless there is a legal entity in those jurisdictions there’s little you can do even if you think there’s a valid complaint. The big tech firms have a presence in the UK/EU because they actively do business in these places. Websites based outside of the UK/EU tend to apply one of two approaches: (i) block access from those locations, or (ii) implement cookie controls and account deletion policies. Breeding Zone has taken the second course of action. Adopting this second approach makes Breeding Zone compliant with UK/EU law on data protection and privacy. Second let’s consider the specifics: You allege that Breeding Zone has published your personal data. As per point 1 above, you are the publisher not Breeding Zone. Just because a platform gives you the ability to publish information does not mean you have to publish information. Before you register for an account it is quite obvious that a lot of content is publicly available. Breeding Zone does not deceive any one of this fact. You do not have to use your real name, you do not have to publish your date of birth (you have to provide a date of birth so the site is compliant with adult content regulations but that information does not need to be publicly available, you can change the viability of it at any time), you do not have to publish your contact details, you do not have to publish identifiable photos of yourself. Ultimately, you have chosen to do all of these things. Even if everything were private (ie you could only see content if a registered user and logged in) the legal position would be unchanged. Not having read the terms and conditions has never been a valid defence in a court of law. As far back as 2019 you have posted on this site: “I am confident of my experience of this website and sure,I have not so sure moments,but I firmly believe that,the best path is to 'wash your dirty washing in public'.Nobody can surprise you then. I have four accounts registered here. I cannot delete the memory,so why agitate myself.Life is too short.” I don’t repeat that out of malice but to indicate that you’ve been aware of the public nature of this site for quite some time. You could have stopped posting or interact with this website at that point in time but you did not. I’m not intending this to come across as rude or condescending, we all sometimes do things that in the future we’re not at always happy about. Regret about past behaviour and any impact that has on us in the present can be painful. You might not be comfortable with what you have previously published here, but it is not Breeding Zone’s fault and they have not broken any laws. -
So yes, for tablet medications (i.e. solid pills like truvada) then many drugs will last notably beyond their expiration date, but over time their effectiveness reduces. The medication is a stable chemical compound that either requires a reaction with water to activate or disolve the outer coating of the tablet - background mositure in the air will eventually cause this reaction to occur, which is something to consider if the medication is contained in a bottle/jar rather than in self-contained "blister packs" where each pill is separately sealed. The stability of the medical compounds and their resistance to background mositure will partially determine the choice of packaging by the manufacturer. As already mentioned by others this is why free clinics, and those in developing countries, will often use medicines past their expiration date because they are still likely to be effective, but certainly aren't guaranteed to be as effective. There's also consumer/health protection rules and regulations, as well as corporate interests from pharma companies to stop you stockpiling. I'd wager that many folk have almost certainly grabbed a couple of out of date paracetamol/acetaminophen when they've had a headache and its still worked. Liquid based medications (i.e. either a straight liquid in a bottle that you pour or liquid medications contained in a small swallowable capsules) are naturally more volatile compounds, and so can be much less stable long-term but again it depends on the compound itself and how its been stored - cough syrups are largely the same medications as in cold/flu tablets just in a liquid solution that's mainly sugar and will probably still work years later, whereas something like insulin has a very definite short-term window of effectiveness. For both Truvada and Descovy the information published by Gilead ([think before following links] https://www.askgileadmedical.com, search the drug name and "stability") says that when either medication is provided in a bottle they include a "silica gel desicate" (think those "DO NOT EAT" sachets that you get in some packaging boxes). Descovy is also available in a blister pack, and again Gilead includes within each blister cavity some form of desicant, which will protect the medication against mositure. They also publish some information about in-house stability tests but these are largely testing extreme circumstances (e.g. high/low temperatures, different humidity conditions). These are also stability tests once the medications have been opened, not tests of the long-term stability of medication that has been kept unopened in its original packaging. Not that anyone should be taking random medical advice from an unqualified random stranger on the internet...
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Picking up on an earlier post about allowing yourself to have these feelings and emotions, I fully agree. There’s clearly an intensity and connection that’s focussed it on Tom, but is it solely him, is it solely the closeness of your existing bond that’s fuelling your feelings, or has it opened something more and it’s changed how you consciously think about other men. I don’t know how much opportunity you get to have time to yourself but there’s three LGBT movies I’d suggest. Largely as a non-porn way of helping you to explore your feelings and experiences. God’s Own Country, an exceptional film from a couple years back, about a guy that works on his family farm and develops a relationship with a labourer on his farm. Weekend, a film about a one night stand that lasts over the course of a weekend. In From The Side, a film set at a gay rugby club where two team members have an affair with each other. I picked these three because (a) they’re all British, (b) while they don’t involve coming out struggles they show gay experiences that aren’t stereotypical depictions of being gay, (c) they involve characters in their late 20s/early 30s. All three are available on regular streaming platforms (GOC and Weekend are on Amazon Prime, In From The Side is on Netflix), but I suspect you might not want them to appear in the history so as not to raise suspicions of your wife. Weekend and In From The Side are both available on the BFI Player service from the British Film Institute and are free as part of their subscription packages which is free for 14-days. God’s Own Country is also available through the BFI Player as a rental for £3.50. Their LGBT+ collection of films is called Flare, after the name of their annual film festival for LGBT+ films, [think before following links] https://player.bfi.org.uk/subscription/collection/bfi-flare-lgbtqia.
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Strongly support the recommendation to talk to a counsellor/therapist, though what with the state of the NHS you’d almost certainly need to go private. You mention you work for the council, most public sector employers in the UK have an employee assistance provider that can offer confidential counselling, with my previous employer you were able to get up to 12 sessions in a year. You can talk to them about any issue not just work related things. Similarly if you’re a member of a trade union some of them provide access to counselling services for their members There are also two national LGBT helpline services: Switchboard, you can call them on 0800 0119 0100 (10:00-22:00 every day) or email them on hello@switchboard.lgbt (replies guaranteed within 5 days), they also offer a web chat service [think before following links] https://switchboard.lgbt/ LGBT Foundation, you can call them on 0345 3 30 30 30 (9:00-21:00 weekdays, 10:00-17:30 weekends) or email them on helpline@lgbt.foundation (replies guaranteed within 10 days) [think before following links] https://lgbt.foundation/helpline You can phone either of these to talk confidentially with a trained volunteer that can provide advice and support, and they can put you in contact with other services. This will offer you an immediate opportunity to talk with someone confidentially about your situation which I think will be helpful, and help you to figure out what next. To find a counsellor or therapist outside of these routes use a service like the Counselling Directory (a general directory of UK counselling services and counsellors) you can filter for those who specialise in LGBT+ and sexuality issues. Alternatively, Pink Therapy is a specific directory of counsellors that support LGBT+ clients. Like I said at the start, really recommend talking to a professional about your situation. They can help you to process your thoughts and understand them better, to understand whether it’s an infatuation borne out of the differences between you two or is it because you are genuinely attracted to him. Everyone’s sexuality evolves over time, for some it’s preferring a different type of man/woman than they used to or developing a new kink, but for some it’s more fundamental and involves moving along the scale and realising they’re not as straight as they thought they were. I know a couple of folk who only discovered they were bi or gay after 30, so you’re not alone if that’s what this is. I’ve also written this assuming you don’t have a friend, family member or colleague you can talk about your feelings with in confidence, or rather for any other matter you’d be talking to Tom about it to get his advice. Obviously that’s a non-starter at this point. But you never know maybe there is someone you can trust. Good luck buddy.
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You would not become "full-blown" as a result of having sex with some that is "full-blown", you may (but may not) become HIV-positive. You would only become "full blown" if your CD4 counts reached less than 200. Assuming that you became HIV-positive after sex with someone that is "full-blow", but you accessed and took modern anti-retrovial drugs as prescribed then it is unlikely that you would become "full-blown" yourself. Some individuals have a strain of HIV (i.e. a specific variation) that is resistant to certain medications, but there are very few individuals that have wide resistance. It is most likely that even if you have sex with someone that is "full-blown" that there are medications that will treat your HIV infection and ensure you do not become "full-blown".
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"Full blown" is a term used in reference to an AIDS diagnosis, as in someone having "full blown AIDS" its not an actual medical term. An AIDS diagnosis is typically made when an individual that is HIV-positive registers a CD4 count of less than 200 copies. CD4 is one of the main proteins of immune system white blood cells (also called T-cells), and is one of the main things that HIV attacks. Having sex with someone that is "full-blown" implies an acute HIV infection that has progressed to AIDS, that is the individual has a low CD4 count. The issue that matters for transmission is the HIV-positive individual's viral load, i.e the number of copies of HIV that can be detected per milimetre of blood. This is the basis behind the U=U campaign, this is based on a number of studies that have shown there are no known HIV infections that have involved an HIV-positive partner that has an undetectable viral load (which is typically defined as less than 200 copies per milimetre). It is often, but not always the case, that someone with a low CD4 count, and thus "full blown" is likely to have a high viral load. However, an individual with a high viral load and a low CD4 count that starts treatment can quite quickly reduce their viral load but it will take much longer for their CD4 to recover, but also once you have dipped below a CD4 of 200 you will always retain the diagnosis of being an AIDS patient even if your CD4 recovers to much higher levels.
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Bottoms, what's your favorite part of getting fucked?
cub84 replied to lovetobefucked's topic in General Discussion
In general it’s that sense of uninhibited connection and that look on their face as they cum inside me and breed me. Specifically, my best/most memorable fucks have been on the occasions when I can feel their hot spunk hit the wall of my ass. Only had a few guys manage it, but it’s a moment of absolute perfection. -
This was absolutely exceptional. Easily one of the top 10 stories I've ever read on here. Thank you.
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Yup. Same, this year has definitely been one of the worst for me. It’s really difficult to describe the what/how of it too; my depression/anxiety has always felt more like an unclear fog than anything that’s the product of specific triggers, but right now it feels like I’m stuck in the middle of some of the thickest fog I’ve ever experienced, not only do I feel lost in it but I also don’t feel sure there’s any way of thinning the fog or navigating a way to a thinner part of it.
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So fucking hot 😈☣️😈
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Slow and steady wins the race 😉
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Thanks, glad you enjoyed. And thanks for all the up votes/likes guys. Working on the next chapter, probably going to land on Wednesday.
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Chapter 5: Jake's descent Over the summer, Alex and I continued to text sporadically. He was helping me come out of my shell. On his pushing, I'd twice ended up in the darkroom at XXL letting guys fuck me raw. At some point, I don't quite remember when, he got me to admit that I enjoyed bugchaser porn and reading posts on Breeding Zone. He thought it was super hot, and encouraged me. He also told me that he was poz, had been for about five years, but was on meds and undetectable. In mid-September he messaged me out of the blue, "Do you remember that Irish cub I made friends with at the start of the summer?"... Of course I do, "Yeah, I think so" I said, feigning ignorance. "I had a great time with him last weekend!". I really should shut this down. I shouldn't let it continue. I shouldn't break Jake's privacy. I shouldn't reply. But my dick thought better, "Oh yeah?" I typed. "Yeah, I think you'll like it <devil face>". What followed was probably the hottest conversation I've ever read, I won't transcribe it, instead this is what transpired the weekend before. Alex met Jake at the bear bar, after a few drinks they went back to Alex's place. By this point, they'd started fucking raw. I didn't check about whether he'd disclosed his status to Jake, but from reading between the lines I don't think he had. So they fucked that night. On Saturday morning, Alex asked Jake if he had any plans for the weekend, he didn't and so Alex suggested that maybe they try out Jake's fantasy to have an anon fuck session. Jake took some persuading but agreed. Jake went home to do some chores, but was back at Alex's by the mid-afternoon. Alex told him to strip as soon as he walked in the door, and handed him a jockstrap to put on. They play around a bit and then there's a knock at the door. Alex gets Jake on all fours and puts a blindfold on him. Five guys that Alex knows are at the door and Alex greets them all, although one of them stays silent so Jake can only ever make out four voices. Not that he knows what they're saying as they're all talking in German. Over the next couple of hours these guys use Jake's ass and mouth. And each fuck at least one load up his ass. Eventually the other guys leave, Alex pulls off Jake's blindfold and tells him he's done well for his first anon group. He starts fingering Jake's hole, playing with all the cum that's in there. Then he asks if Jake's up for more there's a friend of his that couldn't make it over earlier. Jake's a bit timid but with persuasion agrees. About 15 minutes later there's another knock at the door, Alex puts the blindfold on him and lets this other friend in. They get Jake back into position on his knees so one can fuck Jake's ass while he suck the other's cock. Alex and his new friend swap back and forth for a bit. And then at some point while Alex is fucking Jake he stops and asks him "Do you want me to take the blindfold off". His mouth being full of the other guy's cock he can't really say anything but he shrugs, which Alex interprets as a 'yes'. Alex gets behind Jake and holds his head, "stay still" he tells Jake, the guy fucking his throat moves in a bit deeper. Alex says "keep your eyes closed" while he starts to remove the blindfold, the guy fucking Jake's throat moves him deeper so that Jake's nose is buried in his pubes. Alex keeps holding Jake's head tightly in place, and tells him "open them". Jake slowly opens his eyes, while the guy fucking his throat starts to withdraw, allowing Jake to slowly see the giant biohazard tattoo between the guy's cock and belly button. The guy starts fucking back and forth in Jake's mouth, while Alex holds his head tightly. At first Jake is really tense, but eventually the throat fucking wins out and Jake starts moving with the rhythm of it. Alex moves round to the side and starts wanking in front of Jake's face. Jake notices that Alex is getting ready to cum and goes to switch dicks, but Alex says "no" and keeps Jake sucking the other guy's cock. Alex then blows his load, a big, thick load, all over the guy's tattoo. He looks at Jake and says "lick it up", Jake looks a bit puzzled, but Alex just barks back "lick up and eat my cum". And so Jake slowly pulls off the guy's dick, moves his tongue towards the guy's belly and starts to lick up Alex's cum. When Jake thinks he's done he starts to pull away, but Alex says "do a thorough job, repeat it, make sure you haven't missed anything". So he does, and Alex keeps him licking the tattoo for about five minutes. Then when Alex decides that Jake's done, he tells him to start sucking the guy again, while Alex starts to play with Jake's ass. He works a few fingers in, playing with Jake's cummy hole. Then he fucks him a bit. After a while, he pulls out and flips Jake onto his back, and starts fucking him again while his mate watches. Alex beckons his friend to come behind him. As Jake clocks what's about to happen his eyes get bigger, an element of fear finally runs across his face. "Let him fuck you" Alex commands, "he already has, not only when you were blindfolded just now, but also earlier today. He was here too, he just didn't say anything back then. He came in you twice already today. So let him fuck you again". While Alex was saying this, the other guy slid into Jake's cummy ass. After about 10 minutes or so, when Jake's finally into it, Alex takes Jake's hand that's been playing with the guy's nipples and chest fuzz and guides it down to Jake's ass. On the way down, Alex stops at the tattoo and makes Jake rub it for a bit. Then down to Jake's ass, making him feel the guy's cock slide in and out of him, in and out, in... and... out. Then Alex says very calmly, "Yes cub, feel that raw poz dick sliding in and out of your sleazy ass", and with that Jake's dick, which until now hadn't really been that hard, springs up instantly. Alex grabs Jake's dick and starts wanking it, "Yes cub, it feels good doesn't it"... Jake quietly murmurs in approval as Alex's works Jake's hardening dick... "feels good to have raw poz dick inside you, doesn't it"... Jake murmurs again... "what was that cub, you like raw poz dick inside you?"... Jake murmurs yet again... "I didn't hear you"... "yes" Jake says fairly quietly... "What do you like inside you?" Alex asks... "raw dick" Jake says... "what sort of raw cock?"... I take a while... "what sort of raw cock is inside you?"... "poz cock" Jake whispers softly, Alex looks at him, silently telling Jake with his look that he wants Jake to say it louder, and eventually after more coaxing he does... "Cub, your dick just pulsed when you said that in your proper voice, not whispering. You must really like it". With that Alex continues to wank Jake's cock but starts to move it so that the tip touches the guy's tattoo. "Yes cub, you really do like this raw poz dick inside you... now wank yourself" he says, and he moves one of Jake's hands to his own cock, and the other to the tattoo making Jake alternate between tracing out the biohazard patterns and rubbing it. After another 20 or so minutes of this, the guy fucking Jake goes through the tell tale signs that he's about to cum. Alex says to Jake "he's about to cum, do you want that raw poz dick to cum inside you?"... Jake murmurs yes... "I didn't hear you"... "Yes, I want him to cum in me"... "You want his cum? What type of cum is it cub?"... "Poz cum"... "You wat poz cum inside you"... "Yes" ... "Tell me what you want" .. "Cum" Jake says, Alex starts to look at him, but Jake quickly follows up with "poz cum... I want poz cum inside me"... "Yes cub. Now tell him" Alex says, pointing to his mate, "do you know what to say to him?"... Jake nods, and then looks straight at the other guy's face and says "poz me" and with that the guy fucking him starts his final assault... "Yes cub", Alex says, "you want to join us, you want him to make you poz, don't you?"... "Yes" Jake says almost immediately and at the same time starts cumming, just moments before the guy fucking him starts to cum. After the climax of the story, Alex also sent me a photo. The face was cropped but I could see Jake's distinctive cheeky grin and gingery beard. The very distinctive bird tattoo he has on his right pec. And then his cum covered belly, his still hard dick. And, Alex hadn't been lying the guy fucking Jake had a seriously large biohazard tattoo between his cock (which was still in Jake) and belly button. I was already on the verge of cumming myself, but that photo took me over the edge.
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Beware, this chapter contains some piss play. - - - - - Chapter 4: Jake's new friend There's not really very much worth reporting from my birthday trip. It was over pretty quickly, Drew and a few other of mine and Jake's mutual friends had joined us. We didn't really spend any time in the city, so as expected I didn't get to see Alex. As with the last visit it was only Sunday morning and with a bad hangover that I thought to open up the apps. "So you did return then!" Alex messaged... "Yeah, sorry am out in the forest with some friends for the weekend. Not sure I'll get a chance to meet up this time" I wrote back ... "Definitely next time. Take an extra day and spend it with me first/after" he replied. Now there was an idea I'd not thought of. I returned to London with the guys. About a month later, one Friday evening I decided to randomly message Alex and see how he was doing. He didn't reply back to me until the Sunday, "Sorry. I've been busy with a new friend"... "That's cool, hope you had fun"... "OH YES. Lots of fun" followed by a devil emoji... "Oh! That sort of friend" ... "Yeah that sort ... Maybe you know him, he's Irish but lived in London for a little bit". I read it, then read it again. My heart started pounding, what if it was Jake, or rather it was highly likely to be Jake. Besides his natural attractiveness, it was his soft and rhythmic Irish accent that really melted me the second we first me. I don't know what came over me but I lied, "I doubt it, there are a lot of guys that live in London"... "But I thought you had a friend move over here"... "Yeah, but he's American" the lie continued, hoping that Alex didn't really remember who I was with when he first spotted me that night in the bar. "Ahh, yeah, I guess you're right, there are a lot of guys in London. He wasn't there long either, just after university for a few years before moving here". Fuck. It was definitely Jake. I had to put my phone down. I needed to think rationally. I needed to stop this conversation. I should block Alex. But I didn't. My cock had started hardening. "So, tell me more about your new friend?" I asked. The description fit Jake to a tee. "What did you get up to?" I probed further. I didn't get a response particularly quickly, and when I was expecting him to text, he sent me a pic of his cock in what I presume was Jake's ass. Here I was, not only seeing Jake's ass, but seeing a guy fucking him. "You didn't fuck him raw then?" I replied, having noticed a condom. "No. He was worried about his boyfriend" ... "How do you mean worried?" ... "We started out raw, but as I started talking about my load, he said I needed to put a condom on". FUCK. I knew Jake and Drew fucked raw, but he'd always been fairly clear about their safe sex for random hook ups rule. "Ahh, yes, I guess that's sensible" I replied... "Yes, but I know really that he wanted it raw" ... "How?" ... "I pissfucked him". WOW. I was not expecting that. I'd always been intrigued by watersports but had never found that any of my hookups had been into it. And now I discover that my best mate is into it. Fuck. "Nice. I've always wanted to try that" I told him... "Yeah, he loved my piss" ... "How did you get to pissfuck him?" ... "We had a shower before we had sex, he said he needed to pee, so I told him to go in the shower. And then I started to piss on him. And this look in his eyes just told me he wanted it. I stopped the shower. I told him to get on his knees, pissed in his hair, on his furry chest, on his face, and he opened his mouth and swallowed some. Such a cute cub, drinking my piss, was very hot. Then before my stream was finished I told him to stand up and turn around. I rubbed my dick on his ass, let out a bit of piss to lube him up and then pushed in. He has a nice ass, very easily took my dick. Then I released the last of my piss inside him. And I started fucking him"... "HOT" was all I could reply, my dick now harder than anything. "When I would pull out he would reach down and feel my raw cock, wet with piss. He'd coat his hand in my pee and then take it up to his mouth and suck them. Eventually being in the shower was too cramped so we went to his bed and continued. The fuck was so hot that I was very close. I told him I was near cumming, which is when he said we needed to get a condom". "Fuck man. Bet you wanted to cum in him" I replied... "Yeah. But no problem. I'm sure I will one day. Anyways, I have to go now. Speak again soon, hope you're planning another visit too". About five minutes later I came, staring at Jake's last instagram selfie. Wondering if Alex was going to breed him. I know I shouldn't have done this, I shouldn't have let Alex continue, and I really shouldn't have wanked to what he had been telling me. I was lost in a whirlwind of thoughts for a while, and jolted out of it by the sound of my phone receiving a text, it was from Jake "Hey bud, what's up?". "Big raw German bear cock up your ass" I wanted to reply... "Not much. Just a lazy Sunday afternoon" I text back.
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