Download To Own (Amateur and/or Pro) On Breeding Zone?

[rawTOP]

Just wondering how much interest there would be in having a downloads section here on Breeding Zone where people could buy scenes for $1 to $5/each? I could offer both professional porn scenes and amateur. The amateur means you guys could become your own porn producers. You set your price and get a cut of the revenue.

The one big caveat is that if the store is on this site Visa and Mastercard won't touch it - the payments would have to be in Bitcoin. Even if I set up a separate "clean" site, the upfront cost and overhead of using Visa/Mastercard may be cost prohibitive (I can't use PayPal - they don't process for porn).

Anyway, let me know what you think of the idea. If I implemented something it would be a ways down the road...

[TigerMilner]

I'd be totally on board with it. Both as an amatuer producer and a consumer.

[rawTOP]

Given that everyone who answered thinks Bitcoin only is a deal breaker, this probably won't happen.

[bbfan74]

I am personally a huge fan of Download-to-own scenes. TIM offers them (although not for all of their films), SXVideo offers it too. Satyr does.

Eventually I think this will be the future. People will get tired of buying whole movies when they can simply buy single scenes. It's like in the music industry. Buying individual MP3 files now is everyday business but it took the business a long time to figure that out and meanwhile they have lost a lot of money.

The porn industry needs to re-think their marketing strategies too. Any company that does not offer download-to-own by now will be gone in a couple of years from now. You need to stay competitive.

[seaguy]

From what I understand of Bitcoin you almost have to have a seperate computer to run it on unless your machine is super powerful since it is constantly running and doing those complicated math problems. Seems rather complicated for the average internet user at this point.

[seaguy]

I am personally a huge fan of Download-to-own scenes. TIM offers them (although not for all of their films), SXVideo offers it too. Satyr does.

Eventually I think this will be the future. People will get tired of buying whole movies when they can simply buy single scenes. It's like in the music industry. Buying individual MP3 files now is everyday business but it took the business a long time to figure that out and meanwhile they have lost a lot of money.

The porn industry needs to re-think their marketing strategies too. Any company that does not offer download-to-own by now will be gone in a couple of years from now. You need to stay competitive.

Ala Carte like they should make the cable companies do.

[rawTOP]

I am personally a huge fan of Download-to-own scenes. TIM offers them (although not for all of their films), SXVideo offers it too. Satyr does.

Eventually I think this will be the future. People will get tired of buying whole movies when they can simply buy single scenes. It's like in the music industry. Buying individual MP3 files now is everyday business but it took the business a long time to figure that out and meanwhile they have lost a lot of money.

The porn industry needs to re-think their marketing strategies too. Any company that does not offer download-to-own by now will be gone in a couple of years from now. You need to stay competitive.

I totally agree and that was one of my primary objectives when I set up rawTOP.tv - you can join for free and buy/download (DTO) DVDs for $14.95 (or less if you also have a monthly streaming membership plan). I really wanted it to be scene based, but the VOD company that runs the site for me is old school and thinks in terms of DVDs, not scenes.

From what I understand of Bitcoin you almost have to have a seperate computer to run it on unless your machine is super powerful since it is constantly running and doing those complicated math problems. Seems rather complicated for the average internet user at this point.

Absolutely not. You only need a powerful computer if you're trying to mine coins. For transactions, services such as Coinbase are pretty much identical to Paypal in terms of general functionality. The only major difference is that you can't link your Coinbase account to a credit card - only a bank account. And that won't change. Bitcoin transactions can't be charged back. So Coinbase (and others) can't have you buying bitcoins with a credit card and then charging back the credit card transaction - because they can't reverse the bitcoin transaction.

[bbfan74]

RawTop aren't you friends with the owner of RawFuckClub?

Maybe you can tell them that they're losing a lot of money from customers like me. I really spend quite a lot of money on porn every month but apart from having been a subscriber once to their site they never see any money from me since it's streaming only / DVD only. No scenes, nothing to buy to download.

[rawTOP]

RawTop aren't you friends with the owner of RawFuckClub?

Maybe you can tell them that they're losing a lot of money from customers like me. I really spend quite a lot of money on porn every month but apart from having been a subscriber once to their site they never see any money from me since it's streaming only / DVD only. No scenes, nothing to buy to download.

All the Dark Alley stuff is available for DTO on rawTOP.tv. Ditto for Dick Wadd, and much of TIM (though it comes in spurts with them), and a bunch of other pretty big bareback producers. [There's more than what's shown on the tour – long story.] Just sign up for the free membership and download the DVDs you want - cheap

[seaguy]

That is something I did not know. I thought in order to use bitcoin you had to mine it. Good to know that, thanks for the info. All the articles I have read like in Business Week magazine have not been clear about not needing to mine it to use it.

[bbfan74]

All the Dark Alley stuff is available for DTO on rawTOP.tv. Ditto for Dick Wadd, and much of TIM (though it comes in spurts with them), and a bunch of other pretty big bareback producers. [There's more than what's shown on the tour – long story.] Just sign up for the free membership and download the DVDs you want - cheap

I cannot find any Dark Alley DVDs on this site. They are not listed on the studios site either.

Plus, are the downloads available for Mac too? Meaning the are DRM-free MP4 files?

Also, I usually don't buy whole DVDs but prefer individual scenes. As a customer I feel a bit pissed off when a studio forces me to buy a whole film only because I am interested in one scene. It's 2014 so studios should realize that and not continue the same marketing that worked 8 - 10 years ago.

[rawTOP]

I cannot find any Dark Alley DVDs on this site. They are not listed on the studios site either.

Plus, are the downloads available for Mac too? Meaning the are DRM-free MP4 files?

Also, I usually don't buy whole DVDs but prefer individual scenes. As a customer I feel a bit pissed off when a studio forces me to buy a whole film only because I am interested in one scene. It's 2014 so studios should realize that and not continue the same marketing that worked 8 - 10 years ago.

Are you logged in? Dark Alley is one of the studios that do not appear on the tour, but do appear after members login.

The downloads are DRM-free MP4s. I believe they are (or will) have invisible watermarks that can be used to track the source of piracy. So use as you want personally, but don't be uploading to file sharing sites unless you want a lawsuit.

You're preaching to the choir about the whole scene vs. whole DVD thing. I tried and that's what I got… I do keep mentioning it every now and then - maybe one of these days they'll do the work to enable single scene downloads.

[fillmyhole]

hopefully this would encourage more poz material, verbal and conversion video

[rawTOP]

hopefully this would encourage more poz material, verbal and conversion video

Right. There's a lot of stuff that's legal, but Visa won't touch it, so it never gets sold (or rather, never gets made).

[bbfan74]

Good to know about the DRM-free films. Will definitely register there and buy some films in the future.

Cool, thanks.