Democrat or Republican?

[BootmanLA]

3 minutes ago, Joga said:

Well, sorry you read my comment and inferred that I was asserting all of that. 

On the contrary. I read your comment and took it for what it was: saying politics and party choices don't matter. They do. One party wants to protect our rights; one wants to strip them away. Republicans don't deserve to get off in a gay man's body when their party is actively working to make that illegal again.

[Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 4:39 PM, BootmanLA said:

I read your comment and took it for what it was: saying politics and party choices don't matter. 

Yet you prove my point right there. You specifically quoted my line "In my experience, our sex can transcend the bullshit of life." and you then asserted that my statement (and thereby, I) was claiming something you inferred from it.

But to elaborate on your arguments, the "bullshit of life" extends far beyond party line politics; climate change inaction, exploding tech automation and AI, increasingly authoritative digital surveillance, and extreme over-consumption, just to name a few (and both "sides" are guilty of fucking us all). All of what you’re describing with the political landscape and potential for the return to our sex being criminalized, is indeed an awful prospect and not to be flippantly ignored. But to position all Democrats as good guys and all Republicans as bad guys (or vice versa from the other side, for that matter) based on such a narrow scope, and to further censure your brothers who don't absolutely share/support that view, is perpetuating division and hostilities while weakening collective focus on the broader spectrum of interconnected destruction we're all facing. I know my privileges have shielded me from a lot of awfulness in our society, but I’ve absolutely had plenty of my own shit that I’ve survived, as I'm sure you've had your own also (and we definitely have more to come). But the fact is, our world is unraveling, we all know it, and we’re all trying to grieve, cope, and survive.

None of the above invalidates that our sex can be transcendent of this bullshit of life. It’s not an immunity from it, it's literally a means of survival. A similar example is using drugs to transcend the bullshit of life, despite it being illegal depending on the drug and/or state. The risk of being arrested isn’t stopping me from buying and using cannabis for the same reason while living in a state where it’s still illegal. So likewise, if our sex were to become illegal, I would adapt how I go about it, but I would not stop out of fear (and I would do what I can to directly support my community, like I do now through harm reduction for people who use drugs). Bottom line, my lived experience of engaging in our primal sex as a means of temporarily disconnecting from the identities shaped and controlled by our various forms of institutions, that’s transcending the bullshit. 

Again, this is my lived experience, and many others’ also. Take that as you will, but my lived experience isn't debatable, and neither is your's. Any argument to the contrary which attempts to invalidate someone's lived experience, is illegitimate. 

[Guest]

Politics shouldn't have anything to do with sex.

My friend breeds me and we don't know what political party the other follows.

I doubt the sucker or suckee at a glory hole cares if it's a democrat or republican on the other side of the hole.

[Willing]

Be nice to be fucked so hard you change your beliefs 😵

[PozBearWI]

Neither Republican nor Democrat here...

[NYBBGUY58]

I've been known to say that I'm an "EOW" - an equal opportunity whore - who will have sex with men regardless of race, religion, creed or point of national origin. Practically, here in NYC the vast majority of gay/bisexual men lean more "leftwards." Personally, I say a pox on both their houses!

[PozBearWI]

Indeed @NYBBGUY58.  

When are we going to stop obsessing over BBC and just obsess over BC?   Does it really matter the skin color of our sex mates?  

Do we need a bareback UN?  😆

[nanana]

On 8/27/2019 at 3:37 PM, Londonbear said:

Would you rather be bred by a democrat or a republican?

I’m pretty non-partisan and love to be double-fucked, so would love to have one of each mount me at the same time while we all work together to churn up a beautiful bi-partisan cumhole representing peace and joy from a deep deep place in my being. 

[nanana]

On 3/18/2021 at 6:47 PM, blackrobe said:

Actions, and speech can be an action, have consequences. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from critique of that speech. A lot of what people brand as "cancel culture" I see as simple accountability for the positions, and the actions, that people take. The consequences of these things are, in my opinion, very weak tea indeed. 

This is a great point, but it may miss the longer term consequences of disoncentivizing alternative viewpoints. If you look at history, almost all progress has been catalyzed by deviant thinkers. When deviants are silenced, the globe-eternity population loses lots of benefit. I also wonder about people who demonstrate an inability to coexist with people who disagree with them and wish for those people to have as little power over me as possible. So. to those people who wish to cancel, I say, please be as strident and as loud as you wish so you can be outed and isolated from any levers of power,  control mechanisms, and groups who prioritize free-thinking as a path to an innovation-rich future. 

[nanana]

On 4/4/2021 at 9:39 PM, 408curious said:

Someone said once: 

"It's the Democrats' job to tell us life isn't fair.  It's the Republicans' job to make sure it's not fair."

Nice 😉. Adding another pithy favorite, though may be dated now: Q: What’s the difference between Democrats and Republicans? A: Democrats want the poor to be corrupt too.

[nanana]

On 3/19/2021 at 4:27 PM, BootmanLA said:

Anyone who votes for someone other than the candidate who comes closer to his views isn't voting; he's doing political masturbation disguised as performance art.

While this statement seems correct when applied to the context of the immediate future in which the winning party drives government, it seems to neglect the reality of building new parties, which often require long periods out of power before they gain the influence to win. It also seems to conflate an average Joe picking the winning horse versus an average Joe “winning.”

[NYBBGUY58]

3 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

Indeed @NYBBGUY58.  

When are we going to stop obsessing over BBC and just obsess over BC?   Does it really matter the skin color of our sex mates?  

Do we need a bareback UN?  😆

That sounds good to me! I confess that I don't think that bigger is automatically better; the geography of dick and ass can be surprising at times and that's half the fun.

[PozBearWI]

Just now, NYBBGUY58 said:

That sounds good to me! I confess that I don't think that bigger is automatically better; the geography of dick and ass can be surprising at times and that's half the fun.

Yes indeed!  For me its more the man fucking me, or who I am fucking (or whatever sexual delights we provide each other).  Fretting one specific feature seems to detract from other wonderful features.  

[PozBearWI]

But to bring things back to Democrat or Republican.  I guess it depends upon how we meet...  If the first thing we do I focus on political opinion; I suspect sex will just never happen.  If I am along a hiking trail though; or in the rare times I get to baths in the city 3 hours away; it is the look in his eyes, the horns evident as we observe each other that matters; and I can't imagine that I care to give any purity test before sex.  Maybe some "safety" discussion although even then; it depends.  

[nanana]

On 9/22/2021 at 2:28 PM, hntnhole said:

Political Conservativism is merely anachronistic terminology for belief in White Privilege. 

I am wary of raising this topic, but I think my breaking point with this simple phrase has finally arrived. Before I make my point, I do strongly agree that tribes misunderstand and mistreat each other and that powerful tribes take things from smaller weaker and sometimes from bigger stronger tribes and that this is an ugly quality of human nature. There is, however, an invisible and  to-be-celebrated quality that needs to be part of the story. Anybody who has “privilege” today, be they white black red brown purple or yellow, is likely to have had ancestors who acted not only in their short term interests but in the interests of their future generations to build wealth and social and political mechanisms to insure its transfer to future generations. BTW I do NOT think this quality is exclusive to any one race. I would also say that this quality can coexist with a willingness to treat people of other races unfairly, depends on the individual. If I were someone who had a consciousness and looked beyond my immediate family of children and nephews / nieces to find good stewards for my efforts to build fortunes and good societies, I would look for people who demonstrated skill and motivation to protect and build personal and social assets. I would pray for the wisdom to see beyond the surface in selecting stewards, but I would be unlikely to choose a steward who thought their time was well spent complaining about others’ fortune rather than cultivating their own abilities to sustain themselves and pay it forward. I think these variables play a huge role in the perception of “privilege,” and if we as faggots with our typical choice to exit the gene pool benefit less from a long view, then we can at least hope that 25th century faggots benefit from their ancestors’ efforts to pass on “privilege.” I will close this diatribe with a reminder that I utterly concede that in many instances tribes have treated each other unjustly and that many fortunes have been built with injustice. But to me, failing to acknowledge the positive aspects of a multi-generational  consciousness is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The solution for privilege is NOT in my view to entrust people who have only a me-consciousness with “equitable” portions of wealth they didn’t earn but instead to do a better job of expanding multi-generational consciousness and expanding knowledge of self-sufficiency. In parallel, helping those who have built muscle for personal and societal wealth building to see past the surface to identify truly worthy stewards of great wisdom.