Erik62 Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 9 hours ago, BergenGuy said: Hmm ... we could also ask why, in the US, Blacks sued companies that practiced discrimination? After all, who would want to work in such an antagonistic environment? But, there is no social change without brave pioneers, people willing to take unpopular actions. The examples that you gave were all commerce or employment. Do you have examples of where people sued to force a religion to take a different theological position regarding same-sex marriage? You could also ask why they would want to work there. Why is it that ANYONE can demand employment BUT an employer cannot refuse to hire. A very one sided & discriminatory position. If you had bothered to read MY CASES of discrimination you may have a better understanding of my point of view. Quote
hntnhole Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 18 hours ago, BergenGuy said: people sued to force a religion to take a different theological position regarding same-sex marriage? I know that entities of an "organized religion" (i.e. Lutheran, Catholic, etc) can be sued, but we can't bring a lawsuit against a "Religion". Only organizations of that religion, assuming such organizations have committed illegal acts or practices.  In this context - acknowledging a state of marriage - why would any married person care if such and such a religion didn't recognize that status? If some rule of a "church" were broken or not acknowledged, go jump in the lake, clerics. Shake your sticks and rattle your knucklebones, clerics. As Bessie Smith sang: Then see if I Care.  Quote
rawfuckingonly Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 18 hours ago, Erik62 said: NB: Any gay student attempting, by legal action, to enter an anti anti-homo orientated school is an attack on theology to change their basic tenets. What is an "anti-homo orientated school" ? Elaborate on that if you will please.... Quote
Erik62 Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 5 hours ago, rawfuckingonly said: What is an "anti-homo orientated school" ? Elaborate on that if you will please.... A church / religious education provider that refuses to accept or attempts to make life very difficult for homosexual (LGB++++) students - male or female. Quote
rawfuckingonly Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Erik62 said: A church / religious education provider that refuses to accept or attempts to make life very difficult for homosexual (LGB++++) students - male or female. What "attempts" are being made "to make life very difficult" for homosexual students? Quote
Erik62 Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, rawfuckingonly said: What "attempts" are being made "to make life very difficult" for homosexual students? WTF. Think what methods can be used: prolific use of scripture for daily life, definitely no trans use of facilities etc, ostracism. Research for more. 1 Quote
Erik62 Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 18 hours ago, hntnhole said: I know that entities of an "organized religion" (i.e. Lutheran, Catholic, etc) can be sued, but we can't bring a lawsuit against a "Religion". Only organizations of that religion, assuming such organizations have committed illegal acts or practices.  In this context - acknowledging a state of marriage - why would any married person care if such and such a religion didn't recognize that status? If some rule of a "church" were broken or not acknowledged, go jump in the lake, clerics. Shake your sticks and rattle your knucklebones, clerics. As Bessie Smith sang: Then see if I Care.  Could we please ease of with the battering of the "Christian" denominations😢please. No one seems to bring Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism into this discussion. I acknowledge serious licence has been taken in the Lords name, so too have ALL faiths shared these Black marks. I do act & live with a much looser (NO FACETIOUS comments, please😂) interpretation of Christian ethics than many but, I do continue to adhere to the basic tenets of my Faith & I can & do sometimes get offended. Quote
rawfuckingonly Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Erik62 said: Think what methods can be used: I don't care what methods "can" be used. I'm asking you what directly attempted methods *ARE* being used "to make life very difficult for homosexual students" ? 1 hour ago, Erik62 said: prolific use of scripture for daily life Well yeah. It goes hand-in-hand with religious education and those who provide it. 1 hour ago, Erik62 said: definitely no trans use of facilities etc What exactly do you mean by that? What facilities are those? For example? Quote
hntnhole Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 Of course.  Subject considered non grata.  1 Quote
Letmeworshipit Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Getting back to the original topic which is as close at hand as at any time up to now, if gay marriage is rescinded I will be beyond disconsolate. Not only for my many friends who joyously got hitched when It became an option, but more than anything, for those thousands of kids of gay couples who will suddenly feel that their world is being dismantled in front of them. What does this do to their legitimacy, estate planning, insurance, schooling and all the other legalities and benefits of a married couple with children? I never thought they'd repeal abortion and I never thought they repeal marriage equality. What a darker place the U.S. will become if that happens. Quote
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