rock-cock-jock Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 I’ve been doing anon pump and dump scenarios periodically over the last 10 years across mostly Canada and occasionally the US as both a top and bottom and I thought that I’d draft a guide document for anyone thinking of organizing it to be a cumdump bottom for the first time. Hope this helps and let me know if I’ve forgotten anything. Checklist of main things to pack (not exhaustive): Change of clothes Lube (I prefer vaseline as the main lubricator- cheap and will keep your hole operational the entire night and in addition, a small sized silicone lube placed on the bed where the top can spot it in low lighting. I prefer small sizes because I’ve had a top be way too excessive with the lube. Totally wasteful and messy) Condoms (obviously not our preference but I’ve found having it explicitly stated as an option in your ad raises your response rate substantially. You can always request them to cum on your hole afterwards or get the load out of the used condom afterwards. I’ve had some hot straight guys that will only do safe. Best not to restrict your options imo) Jockstraps (I bring spares because when one is soaked with cum and cold and clammy it’s a bit uncomfortable) Poppers (make sure the tops dont steal it afterward. I like the european ones that have the evaporation resistant caps so the poppers stay strong and avoids spillage which has happened to me before due to clumsiness and not being able to see) glasses/ contact case and solution (hotel rooms are dry and my eyes dry out after a couple fucks) Blindfold (the first few times I did it I cheated and used a see through blindfold (amazon) because I was scared that something would happen. But now I do it properly using a cheapie I think I got from dollar store - more of an immersive experience and I think the really paranoid discrete ones are more comfortable with a heightened level of anonymity. This is optional for some people depending on their comfort level I think. I don’t recommend going for any kinky mask or gear or hood etc without clearing it with your respondent first. I remember showing up as an anon top to a hotel room and the btm was decked out in gear. I would normally be ok with it but was just surprised and kinda pissed that he didnt at least give me a heads up. Laptop and hdmi cord (if you plan to play porn as an ambience. Personally when topping I’ve found the porn volume to be distracting if too loud and was a little nervous the neighbors would hear. Also you might not want to pull out anything too kinky. Alot of the respondents are straight and/or new to gay sex. They’re delicate - don’t weird em out before you get their load) Water (stay hydrated. Try to avoid eating though and absolutely no coffee unless you want to spend another 45 min douching) Phone charger Anything you need for comfort or to keep you entertained during your downtime when you’re waiting for the next guy Any cosmetic or bathroom items that you might need Duck tape (I use this to keep the door from locking. More sustainable than using the door latch which I’ve found some tops reset) Cap, optional (I like the sporty look.. Plus added bonus of keeping the tops from grabbing your hair if they make you suck their dick) Mouthwash (some guys will surprise you with unexpected kissing and cuddling so best have good breath in preparation for that. I personally love it when blindfolded - really heightens the experience without having the person’s attractiveness bias your state of mind.) Bottle douche or small plastic bottle of water Plastic bag (to put all your gross stuff in when you’re done) Any party drugs that you might use, a cumdump session is a good time for them (I guess kinda controversial but it makes it funner. Dont go overboard as you still want to retain the ability to react if the top starts to do sketchy shit like try and steal from you or be overly rough or something. I’ve never had any major problems like stealing etc. but I’ve had one guy be overly rough with a thick 8 incher - honestly not cool at all even with poppers and makes subsequent fucks less enjoyable and less accessible as the muscles tighten up. Since then it’s something that I keep in mind. Honestly, having a clear mind is much more enjoyable for me in my experience than say getting drunk before doing it. One of the cool things about anon is your heightened sense of awareness as you hear the top open the door, hear his belt buckle and his zip and feeling his body warmth before feeling his cock. It’s fun) Tips: Location is very important - don’t just choose a hotel/motel carelessly. I think tops are more likely to travel to you if it’s close by so pick somewhere densely populated. One time I picked a hotel that was right beside a truck stop rest area and got a good bit of trucker loads. Certain hotels have put in curfews due to covid where you need your room key to enter the front entrance. This sucks but is generally restricted to 3.5/4+ star hotels. A huge chunk of your respondents are discrete and some of them are next level paranoid. I’ve had guys cancel because the room location required that they pass through the lobby as opposed to being accessible from the parking lot. I personally use super 8 or travelodge if the location is ok because of parking lot access, price and I think they are less likely to react if they notice guys showing up . I’ve found the best rates to be on hotwire. I don't think it's a good idea to use your home as an anon pump n dump location. Although you're saving money, I think you risk theft of your possessions and revealing your identity to someone you may know or who may use this information against you. Not worth it. Call ahead (like the morning of) and request early check in. If they have clean rooms most will be ok with it. I’ve gotten in as early as 10 am (normal check in is 3pm) before. The more time you have the more loads you can get. Scheduling has never kinda worked for me. I think a reasonable standard allotment would be a 30 min interval. Most guys cum quick- like 5 min or less. I’ve found that being open about possible overlaps is preferable than having them be surprised. Remember, some of them are delicate - they will flee at the first sign of something not going according to plan. Douching needs to be done exhaustively until the juices run clear. Remember that you’re planning to get fucked for a long time frame so make sure you do it properly. I use a hose attachment that connects to my shower fixture( you can find it on amazon). Unfortunately, most hotels’ shower fixture can’t attach to it so you need a separate bottle douche or if you’re ghetto like me use a bottle of water (thin plastic is easier). Try to watch your diet the day before - keep it minimal and no coffee and no fatty foods. Avoid eating during your cumdump hours Obviously use a throwaway email account. Protect your identity and dont have your name anywhere. If you’re doing this locally, use a different grindr account. The last thing you want to do is hurt your normal hookup chances because the guys in your area now know you’re into anon cumdumping. In fact, it might be better to just head out of town and slut it up where no one knows you or could somehow recognize you. Most guys will be fine but a small set of guys will be troublesome. Occasionally you may come across tops that takes a wayyy too long a time to cum (imo 1hr+ cuz they want to edge and didnt bring it up beforehand is unacceptable), or that try to hang around and watch without asking (yes, very creepy), or that just can’t get it up at all (it happens, no judgement, but sucks from a sex point of view), or that completely ditch the concept of a pump n dump and start doing everything from massages to small talk to whatever (breeding is #1 priority!). This point might be controversial because I think some bottoms might take submissiveness to the extreme and just allow the top to do whatever but I feel like this approach can definitely screw up your plans for the day. The way I approach these scenarios is to be polite but clearly communicate that I’m not comfortable with this or that and if things really cant get back on track, then I suggest that maybe things arent working well today and maybe we should just call it off or take a break or something. Don’t be judgemental or critical - it might not be their fault or they didn’t understand the scenario or something. Be mindful that you are after all in a room alone with a stranger. Be kind but communicate clearly if you’re uncomfortable. Secure your valuables. Ideally the room has a safe. If it doesn’t, might be better to keep your wallet etc in the car than risk the chance of being exposed to theft. Keep any stuff that needs to be in the room hidden to minimize temptation. Just in case Example Ad template: Obviously, your ad is super important. Your goal is to maximize the number of loads you can get and you want to communicate your expectations as clearly as possible. Definitely include a picture as it will hugely affect your response rate. Spend some time to try and get a good butt shot that hopefully will pass through doublelist and locanto’s restrictions. I personally like natural lighting and an angle that makes your butt look as big as possible.I have no idea what their criteria is. I’ve had some butt pics pass but be rejected in a later ad and vice versa. Remember to renew your ads and repost them on the day. The majority of my respondent demographic has always been guys in their 40s to 50s, some married. So imo it makes sense to renew after standard work hours when they’re likely to be home and have free time. Make sure that all your stats and details are correct. I think many guys when browsing will be suspicious of fake ads so try and aim to be clear so there is no misunderstanding. Craigslist was by far the best platform for this kind of thing but y’know rip. I use squirt message boards, doublelist, locanto, bbrt and grindr. Takes some micromanaging but the more you can distribute your ad the higher the rate will be. Though understandably you may have preferences on the kinds of guys you want showing up, consider that 1) you wont see them anyways, you’ll just feel their dick if they stick to the standard pump n dump expectation 2) the majority of guys wont show up so you might not want to be too picky. I personally still request basic stats (though most will send in the first email) just because it’s nice to visualize when getting fucked by him and helps me kinda keep track of my fucks for the day. A template of one I used this past weekend is below. Other examples can be found in the cumdump poppers trainer video (google it). I posted an initial one 2 weeks before the date I was kinda aiming for to get an idea if anyone would be interested before committing to booking and setting a date. I then edited it the Friday of the weekend to include the date and location and either refreshed it or just posted a new ad. I got a decent response rate but I think there’s room for improvement. Just my speculation but I think certain key words in your ad might help or hinder you depending on the culture of your area eg cumdump, loads, pump n dump. Calgary kinda sucks for this kind of thing anyway. My largest response rate has been in Seattle so far. Pride week especially in whatever city is also a great time. Most guys regardless of city will not follow through, maybe 10-20% on an average session will legit show up. Saturdays or public holidays are good days to set up — Hoping to organize an anonymous pump and dump scenario at my hotel room. Me: <insert your stats> Scenario: The door will be left propped open. When you come in, the room will be dark and quiet and I'll be naked ass up face down blindfolded and in a jockstrap. Lube and condoms (optional) will be to the side of the bed. Pull your cock out, use my ass to bust a load, then zip up and head out. No strings, no complications, no bs. Just straightforward easy and convenient fucking. Completely discrete. I haven't set a date or location yet - just trying to get an idea if anyone would be interested. Serious only. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. — Overall, if you’re new to anon fun and thinking of trying it, I say take the plunge and go for it. It’s a different experience from a normal hookup and one major advantage is that a surprising number of hot (based on cock/body pic and when I used to cheat with my blindfold) straight/bi (unconfirmed) discrete guys will show up for this. It definitely helps though to do a bit of planning or think some things through beforehand. 13 11 8
fskn Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 As a top who has occasionally enjoyed these scenes, this gives me insight into the bottom's perspective, and demonstrates the effort involved. Thank you for writing this, @rawislaw87. May it encourage lots of people to organize pump-and-dumps! Have you thought of writing a brochure that could be printed and distributed in gay venues? Better yet, have you considering writing a book with this as the nucleus, and perhaps other kinds of sex advice or your own and other people's stories to fill the rest of the pages? 2
hntnhole Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 Kudos, rawislaw87. That was a great addition. Back in Chicago, there were cumdumps being whored out all the time at the Heart 'O Chicago on Ridge Ave that I attended, but didn't appreciate at the time all the effort that went into the planning. The only times I've hosted groups were at home, when I knew each of the guys I wanted to invite. Your advise on how to plan a totally anonymous whoring is impressive - well done !!! 1
LetsPOZBreed Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 I knew a guy in the US who planned sessions for his bottom buds about once a month. After I got to know him well enough, he explained the level of work involved in getting these things ready, so I agree with everything stated in this post. Also, appreciate @rawislaw87 for putting this thread out there. One bit of advice I was also given back then that I didn't see in this post is to potentially have one of your mates be there in a bit of a supervisory capacity. If I'm going to be blindfolded, then I can't really have eyes on everything going on in the room while I'm getting fucked - would be good to have someone be my eyes for me. This may put off some of the more skittish tops, I'll admit, but it just gives me a level of comfort for my own safety as well. 1
Guest Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 Great advice here, especially the often-forgotten water (stay hydrated)! Some additional reminders I sometimes need to give myself: for the time allotted, you are serving your community. As long as you've planned ahead, don't let trepidation prevent you from doing your sworn duty during this time. Be a man of your word, for a true man is a true cumdump. So leave the door open, get on all fours, put on that blindfold, and trust that most men simply want to pump and unload. At the same time, be hyper-aware at all times, especially while blindfolded, but don't let fear prevent you from letting men do what they naturally do.
rock-cock-jock Posted February 15, 2022 Author Report Posted February 15, 2022 Thanks for all the positive feedback guys! I know for sure I made a ton of mistakes the first few times when I was still figuring things out. Some mistakes that comes to mind are: 1) once I forgot to pack my phone charger. Phone ran out of juice because grindr (and all the other gps dating apps/sites) burns battery life like crazy . So ended up having to get dressed and head out for like 40 min searching for a replacement charger that cost like $50, a duplicate that I'll basically never use again 2) picked a hotel based on star quality and looks rather sex-logistics. Yeah, the tops came and went and the room was great and comfy and luxurious...until about 9pm when I realized this shitty high star prissy hotel imposes a curfew and locks the main door. Yeah, nothing kills the anon vibe like having to get dressed, come down to the lobby, open up for the top, make awkward small talk in the elevator while you try not to die of cringe and a bit of self-doubt thinking this guy is so weird maybe I shouldn't doing this after all. He ended up having a great cock and knew how to top like a pro. But all that crap could have been completely avoided had I opted for the more ratchet motel with parking lot access and no fucking curfews. 3) forgot to monitor the door latch (before I figured out how to duct tape it down) and the last top locked it on his way out. The next top came and saw the door locked, I guess they must have been reluctant to knock or something and then left. After sending an email, he thought upon seeing the door was locked that the whole thing was a fabrication and yeah that was it. He was in his 30s, 6' 190 (i dont remember exactly but something like that) white brown-haired hairy slight dad bod-muscularish , a body that I could see working in construction or something similarly manual labor-sexy and a fucking god like cock. The amount of regret I felt will haunt me for the rest of my life. 2 1
Guest Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 This was great to read and a lot of great tips thank you dear!
ErosWired Posted February 25, 2023 Report Posted February 25, 2023 I would just add a couple of embellishments to this otherwise sound and useful information: Lubes: I recommend avoiding leaving a bottle of silicone-based lube out for Tops to use. They invariably spill it and create a slipping hazard right where you want a Top to have fucking traction. Also, while Vaseline is a popular go-to for many bottoms, for extended cumdump sessions an organic rather than petroleum-based lube may be an advisable alternative, as it allows moisture to move through tissues, whereas lubes like Vaseline seal them. You’ll stay more resilient over the long haul. Blindfolds: These are a matter of some debate in cumdump circles. Though there’s nothing quite like the sensation of feeling that finger touch your hole out of nowhere, the risk inherent in cumdumping with your senses impaired is high, particularly if flying solo. Some will say too high. As your vulnerability increases, so does the risk of assault. The risk of theft escalates, and a blindfold is essentially out of the question if, for instance, you brought a laptop with you. Self-Defense: I may have missed it, but I did not see a mention in the original post about bringing a means of self-defense. Unless you happen to be a Black Belt and your body classifies as a living weapon, you may wish to consider bringing some means of deterring a physical assault. I never cumdump without my weapon, concealed but handy. At no time in the years I’ve surrendered my hole to strangers have I ever needed to use it. But I wouldn’t go without it. Location: One additional consideration I have found essential is external room access - room doors that open to the outside. As mentioned by some, don’t require Tops to pass through a lobby and walk past a set of eyes to get to you. I won’t even book a room unless the facility has external entry. This does come at the cost of a level of security, but cumdumping has, frankly, a relatively high risk-to-reward ratio. A field behind a locked gate does not get plowed. Cleanout/Eating: As explained, thorough cleanout prior to arrival is essential. It’s also advisable to bring a means to do it on-site, and while there are various bottle- syringe- and bulb-type solutions, I have found these only practical for emergency situations. To ensure emptiness at depth from an onsite cleanout, you really should pack either a traditional enema bag and line, or one of the portable lines designed to slip over the bathtub faucet. As to this last item, however, note - the ones that I usually find available are designed to fit over round faucets, and what shape is the faucet in whatever hotel I pick? Square. Every fucking time. Shop around. The OP suggests avoiding eating during the cumdumping session, but this can be a manageable matter with a little planning, and if you’re going to be cumdumping for an extended (say, 2-3 day) period, that level of fasting is impractical and will leave you without the energy needed to perform. The thing to remember is that anything you eat is going to make its way to your large intestine (upper) within 6-8 hours - but it will take that matter 24-36 hours to make its way to your rectum. So if you start with an empty bowel and plan to cumdump for 12 hours, you could eat something after 4-6 hours and it would only enter your bowel by the time you were done. In fact, you could probably snack lightly throughout the session and only a portion of it would be in transit through your ascending colon by quitting time. That is, unless you ate something to irritate or stimulate the bowel and hasten its action. The other caveat, of course, is if you intend to accept deep fisting. Keep all lanes clear for that. Some may suggest using Immodium to keep your gut clear - this is not recommended. Immodium short-circuits the bowel’s mechanism for moving waste out, which multiplies the difficulty you would have in cleaning out when and if you need to. Better to manage it with planned diet and careful pre-cleaning. Duct Tape: (Recommended over ‘duck tape’ - taping ducks together never works 😉) If you’re going to do open-door cumdumping, the issue of arranging the door often requires some finesse. Hotel doors are generally designed to lock automatically against entry from the outside even if unbolted, so open-door usually means defeating the mechanism - which is where the duct tape comes in. You can use the tape to either a) try to restrain the latch from falling into position; or b) block the slot into which the latch would fit. Because the latch is spring-loaded, the first option seldom works well. Better to cover the hole. The door may or may not, however, be hung plumb, and if the latch does not engage the door may want to swing open. In this case you need to rely on the friction between the door at the latch and the frame at that point to prevent unwanted opening. Unfortunately, there can sometimes be a gap of millimeters between them. In this case, you can apply the duct tape in layers to build up a buffer. If the space is very great, a piece of corrugated cardboard sandwiched between layers of duct tape can help bridge the gap. Whatever tape combination you use, you will likely need to check it between fucks to ensure that it’s holding position. If you can keep the door unlocked but can’t keep it closed, one other option is a simple rubber wedge doorstop. I take one with me every time I go. You may have to replace it each time, but it usually does the job in a pinch. The only fly in this ointment is when you get a Top who responds to your open-door no-loads-refused cumdump ad and the first thing he asks when he walks in is if he can lock the door. 🙄 Then you have to decide whether to accommodate him and rip out your whole carefully arranged setup, or refuse. The ideal situation is a Top like one who one took me in a ground-level motel room facing the parking lot, who came in, pulled me toward the door, and started assfucking me with the door wide open. Honey Badger did not care. 4
Texasbreeder Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 As a top who frequents cum dumps and prefers them I appreciate all of the work and second what was said. The anon vice, easy access, and tons of loads from strangers in a random warm home really make it all with it. 1 2
marriedsub Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 Thank you! Amazing check list and tips. All I have to do now is gather the courage to go through, and maybe have a (Dom) co-arranger? 1
Luxbrit Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 Honestly as a bottom cumdump, having it all typed out like @rock-cock-jock has done, really shows the lengths we go do, it’s exhausting but very rewarding 🤣
KylerIsTrash Posted May 18, 2023 Report Posted May 18, 2023 @rock-cock-jock and @ErosWired are spot on. I independently converged on many of these recommendations. The last thing you want during a ganbang is a logistical failure interrupting the train. I also started with a see-through blindfold but quickly switched to the bandanna to completely black out my vision. No regrets. Having forgotten chargers many times it’s important. I have a runners arm band made to hold phones that I wear so my phone is always on me and doesn’t get stolen. I would steer away from playing porn on a laptop personally. I had a laptop stolen from my place with one face down ass up encounter. For lube I recommend 9x6 (a blue bottle). It’s expensive but great quality lube. Always keeps my hole ready. The bottle design is amazing with a twist squirt top. If you want to continue using cheaper lube I would recommend getting one bottle of 9x6 and then refilling it. The bottle easy for me to handle blindfolded, spun, and covered in lube. The squirt top makes it real easy to get in my ass without making a mess. Usually my hole is so loose and wet tops don’t need more lube but I keep it in the band of my jockstrap or next to me in the sling for easy access. 1
ErosWired Posted May 18, 2023 Report Posted May 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, KylerIsTrash said: Having forgotten chargers many times it’s important. One handy tip for charging while cumdumping in el cheap-o motels - sometimes you’ll get into the room and discover that there’s no electrical outlet anywhere near the bed. What’s usually happened is that the head of the bed butts up against a single outlet on the walk somewhere around its middle, and the cords for both bedside lamps are run behind the bed and plugged in out of sight. You can try to pull the mattress out a bit, find the outlet, and swap your charger for one of the lamp plugs. If your setup is anything like mine, you’re not going to be needing both those lamps anyway, if you need either at all. Just remember to plug the lamp back in when you’re done. Portable power supply chargers can be a life-saver, too. Regarding lube, I’m on record multiple places with my recommendation about a preference for semi-solid, cream-type, organic-based lubes, but whatever you choose, note @KylerIsTrash’s emphasis on the twist-squirt top. Above all else, you want a lube the Tops can’t spill, because if they can, they will. Every. Fucking. Time. And then you have either a mess on the carpet, or a skating-rink-of-death right where the Top needs to be able to anchor his feet for thrusting. Personally, I keep my main go-to lube within my own reach, but not available to the Tops, and provide them with a small supply of something manageable in case they feel that they need it. But they won’t really - I make it my business to ensure that my cunt stays slick enough for use. 2 2
chipygmalion80 Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 2:14 PM, Texasbreeder said: As a top who frequents cum dumps and prefers them I appreciate all of the work and second what was said. The anon vice, easy access, and tons of loads from strangers in a random warm home really make it all with it. Yup. When I top an anon pump n dump ass, an external room door is a perk but isn't required. Room keys can get messy, especially locked elevators or the entire hotel needing the key/card. Playing room key tag is a hornball killer. I've tried finding the bottoms hidden door key in a lobby plant or wherever ... it's just messy. So pick a hotel that doesn't have locked elevators or locked lobbies. 1
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