What is "Woke"?

[Erik62]

On 11/30/2024 at 1:34 AM, nanana said:

The people who can be definitively linked to an immoral act. It’s not good enough to say they “look” similar or were “born” into it. Children have no control over their circumstances, and the world is never going to be “fair.” Economic winners are always going to do something that pisses off others. As I said before, I am HIGHLY in favor of people and groups who feel that what they inherited was affected by past injustice to do something about it. However, there are two examples at different extremes of this and many examples in the middle of them: 1) build the capabilities to have the life you want; and 2) focus on taking away things from others that have been poorly distributed by past injustices. As I said there are reasons to do both, but I think the second path is likely to be less effective the farther it is in time, especially generationally, from the injustice. Also, the more unfocused the remedy is on the ACTUAL PEOPLE who did it. The wider the net especially to people who had no originating role in the injustice, the greater likelihood the remedy will be perceived as a new injustice rather than a remedy applied to the right people for the right people.  That is partly why elites love to tell stories about injustices were long past capable of doing anything about in the present, to distract from current injustice that could actually be tagged to the originator. The search for ancient injustices keeps us ricocheting and degenerates into stereotypical thinking, whereas building a skill and a legacy is harder to take away. 

Reparations??? My family had titles, the mansion land & very little money. WHY 🤔???, because they looked after their tenant farmers & household staff. Estate records show above average wages were paid & agri produce monies were paid at very much higher levels that allowed farmers to raise their families in comfortable standards. 

    Come the troubles & Irish calls for independence my family were burnt out of their house & fled with only the clothes on their backs. Several lost their lives, some children also. They had been in Ireland for generations but none of this mattered. They fled to England & with the prejudices towards Irish at the time, they worked until enough money was earned which allowed them to head to Australia. They were never assisted by reparations or special welfare allowances that are today so pivotal to ongoing social welfare & their failure to thrive in even their own communities. 

   Why does nobody acknowledge that I / we have relevant claims for reparations from the Irish government. We have never made claims because we have always believed that "the past, is just that, the past". The family immigrated to Victoria & made new lives for themselves & their children. My past family members had a proud heritage of national pride & service, loyalty & hard work without causing others to live hard lives. Of this I am also extremely proud & like it or not, I have no cause to say sorry, to anyone. An apology for the suffering of my family would be nice but, I know that being "white" this will never occur. 

[MrPolite]

Woke is when you ask random people on the internet for an answer or definition of a word,

instead of asking a lexicologist or other academic. 

 

 

(and the people you're asking the answer of, you've already previously banned them all)